ULEZ revenue

[Bper]

Through data obtained via a freedom of information request,  ULEZ generated £224,633,003 in 2022, an average of £18.7m a month. Well that obviously proves it's not about money is it?.🤬

[Cyker]

Nope! Not at all! Nothing to see here, move along, move along  

[FROSTYBALLS]

Birmingham's Clean Air Zone (a much smaller area than the ULEZ) generated £25.6 million in it's first year of operation (2021-2022), and this is expected to rise to between £40 and £50 million for the second year (2022-2023).

[Bper]

So based on this premise councils are doubling revenue every year what is the long term affordability for us motorists. Are we going to be priced off the roads as how are we going to continue to afford paying .😠

 

[Big_D]

Sickening, isn't it.

[2toyos]

1 hour ago, Bper said:

So based on this premise councils are doubling revenue every year what is the long term affordability for us motorists. Are we going to be priced off the roads as how are we going to continue to afford paying .😠

 

Well come to the 15min cities, where will all be driving little electric plastic boxes similar size to k cars, where we can be controlled and worked to death, soon we will become livestock 

[Big_D]

I see the ULEZ zone is being expanded on the 29 August. There's another £224,633,003 going to be kaptured in the koffers of Khaaaaan next year

[Cyker]

It's funny they want to reduce road deaths, but at this rate everyone'll be on e-bikes or e-scooters and it'll be like China or India at rush-hour where it's everyone for themselves and rules of the road? what rules of the road?

 

[Bper]

Nope Tuk Tuks will be the mode of transport for us in our 15 minute cities.😅

Councils are currently sending out questionaires under the guise of your opinion on walking, cycling and wheeling plan n your towns. Well no matter what our objections will be they will go ahead regardless.

Motorists will eventually be priced off the roads or millionaires to own one. Remember that any lost goverment of council revenue from vehicles will be made up through the increases in our council tax or some other new green tax brought in .This will no doubt be levied under the extra money is needed to fight pollution and climate change. 😠

Now where was Cromwell buried.

 

 

[Cyker]

Alas I don't think TukTuks are ULEZ compliant; We'll probably get Rickshaws instead!

[Big_D]

1 hour ago, Cyker said:

Alas I don't think TukTuks are ULEZ compliant; We'll probably get Rickshaws instead!

I don't think it's going to be a case of how ULEZ compliant they are, but perhaps how much additional revenue they will bring in. I still don't think it's got anything to do with cleaner air, rather more revenue

[Cyker]

Don't worry, when they shift from ULEZ to pay-per-mile it will no doubt apply to e-bikes, e-scooters, tuktuks, rickshaws and pedestrians as soon as they figure out how to attach number plates to us!  

[FROSTYBALLS]

11 hours ago, Cyker said:

Alas I don't think TukTuks are ULEZ compliant; We'll probably get Rickshaws instead!

I think sedan chairs will make a comeback 

[Cyker]

Mr Bean was ahead of his time...

 

[Bper]

5 hours ago, Cyker said:

Mr Bean was ahead of his time...

 

Wasn't it him that invented armchair driving or a mini version of it.😅

[Big_D]

I think that any vehicle that uses the road, including cyclists, e-scooters, etc., should have to pay road tax, have a valid MOT (or equivalent) and have valid insurance. I often see cyclists riding two (or more) abreast and slowing down motor vehicles. Surely this increases the CO2 and emissions when cars have to slow down and speed up to pass a cyclist.

And what if a bicycle or e-scooter is faulty. If my car is not fit to be used on the road, it doesn't pass the MOT and if I do use it on the road I get fined. Who, apart form the owner, checks to see is a bicycle or e-scooter is fit to be ridden. 

The next thing is insurance. If a bicycle or e-scooter rides into me, I have to claim against my insurance even if it wasn't my fault.

It it's cash the councils are after, as @Cyker says, we'll be taxed for waking next.

I had a couple of kids on bicycles shoot out of a side street today. Luckily I didn't hit them, but if I had, whose insurance would I claim from. Cyclists use the road and pay no road tax. Some e-scooter drivers are an absolute menace. We had a young girl of around 15 who would ride her e-scooter on the wrong side of the road towards oncoming cars. They often had to swerve to miss her. She thought this was perfectly acceptable. From what I gather, someone has had a word and she no longer rides her e-scooter.

That's my whingeing over for now 

 

[2toyos]

Are tanks still exempt?? 

[Bper]

On 6/26/2023 at 2:40 PM, 2toyos said:

Are tanks still exempt?? 

It would be a challenger for that to happen .😅

[Haliotis]

ICE vehicles are improving all the time.  These Emission Zones/Congestion Zones are all about money for council coffers.  On the one hand, councils want their city centres to survive, yet on the other hand their actions will simply drive motorists to out-of-town shopping centres.

It’s all very well to try and push people int public transport, on bikes, or simply to walk. What about people with heavy/bulky shopping - can’t take it on a bus(elderly people may live quite a distance from a bus stop), can’t carry it on a bike(safety), and many elderly/infirm people cannot ride a bike in safety.  These jobsworths don’t have a clue!!!

[Bper]

18 minutes ago, Haliotis said:

ICE vehicles are improving all the time.  These Emission Zones/Congestion Zones are all about money for council coffers.  On the one hand, councils want their city centres to survive, yet on the other hand their actions will simply drive motorists to out-of-town shopping centres.

It’s all very well to try and push people int public transport, on bikes, or simply to walk. What about people with heavy/bulky shopping - can’t take it on a bus(elderly people may live quite a distance from a bus stop), can’t carry it on a bike(safety), and many elderly/infirm people cannot ride a bike in safety.  These jobsworths don’t have a clue!!!

The bi-election result for Uxbridge forced Keir Starmer to tell khan to back off on the expansion of the ULEZ as it has shown by how the vote went just how unpopular with the people this is. Starmer knows if the Conservatives campaign to overturn this then he will lose crucial votes in the next election.

[Flatcoat]

If ULEZ charging is about creating cleaner air (as claimed by the proponents) I would like Khan and his fellow travellers in other councils, to tell me at what point will the air quality be such they can drop the charge? Given much of poor air quality is from business, domestic heating etc. And, if as I understand it the air quality on the Underground is poor, can we look forward to Kahn taking action against TFL? After all they couldn’t possibly have introduced such a charge under false pretences could they? Isn’t it only greedy capitalists that initiate such horrendous practices against the poor downtrodden working man…..? 

[Big_D]

1 hour ago, Haliotis said:

ICE vehicles are improving all the time.  These Emission Zones/Congestion Zones are all about money for council coffers.  On the one hand, councils want their city centres to survive, yet on the other hand their actions will simply drive motorists to out-of-town shopping centres.

It’s all very well to try and push people int public transport, on bikes, or simply to walk. What about people with heavy/bulky shopping - can’t take it on a bus(elderly people may live quite a distance from a bus stop), can’t carry it on a bike(safety), and many elderly/infirm people cannot ride a bike in safety.  These jobsworths don’t have a clue!!!

So true !!!