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[Bper]

A lot of talk about Sadiq Khan actually being voted in to run for another term. Surely this can't be even a remote possibility. who is going to vote for him after this.

[CPN]

2 minutes ago, Bper said:

A lot of talk about Sadiq Khan actually being voted in to run for another term. Surely this can't be even a remote possibility. who is going to vote for him after this.

The London Elite virtue signalling massive! That's who!

[Haliotis]

I would think that Sad Sick Khan has taken over from Al Capone as Public Enemy No.1.

[Rhymes with Paris]

4 hours ago, Haliotis said:

I would think that Sad Sick Khan has taken over from Al Capone as Public Enemy No.1.

Well,Al Capone served time in Alcatraz for tax evasion I think,as they couldn't secure a conviction for most of the other crimes.

Died of the long term effects of syphilis at age 47.

One would hope that a similar fate at the very least, befalls other crooks.

[Haliotis]

Just heard on Talk TV that a lot more ULEZ cameras have been vandalised.  Guess Khan will have to install cameras to guard the ULEZ cameras, then cameras to watch the cameras that guard the ULEZ cameras!  

[Big_D]

1 hour ago, Haliotis said:

a lot more ULEZ cameras have been vandalised

Oh No!! What a disaster. We're all really gutted 😁

[Bper]

Sadiq Khan just got fired from directing the new Blade Runner Balaclava movie. He couldn't say "Cut".😂

[Bper]

Sadiq Khan has deployed a fleet of Ulez camera vans to catch motorists after vandals attacked enforcement cameras across London.

Transport for London (TfL) is using 20 mobile camera vehicles across the expanded zone to fill gaps where cameras are lacking or not in operation.

This isn't going well for him as they can't keep up with the blade runners who are either cutting the camera's cables of chopping the masts in half.

[Big_D]

It sounds like people are unhappy with the ULEZ charges. Is it possibly due to the fact that it a money making racket 

[Aygolite]

2 hours ago, Big_D said:

It sounds like people are unhappy with the ULEZ charges. Is it possibly due to the fact that it a money making racket 

In my town, Mayor Khan has put up ULEZ cameras at the main traffic light junction forcing dirty diesels to take a rat run down a side road and straight past the local primary school.

He should have first put up ULEZ cameras outside the local primary school to prevent this rat run, and only then put them up at the main traffic light junction.

Shame on you Mayor Khan.

[Big_D]

I think this is the point we’re all trying to make. It’s about the money, not the controlling of pollution and the safety of children (or other people). 
as you quite rightly say, forcing diesels down a side road endangers the lives of school children and adds to the pollution in the area

[Haliotis]

Thousands of motor engineers spend their working lives in garages, and are therefore exposed to exhaust pollutants for up to 40 hours per week.  I have never heard of any reports of these workers being in life-threatening jobs due to pollution.  In fact, the only threat to life comes with warnings of electrocution from EVs if working practices are not strictly observed.

With all Sad Sick Khan’s rhetoric about dangers of health due to vehicle pollution, why hasn’t he, or the government, invoked an enquiry into the dangers to garage workshop employees?  Is there any evidence of garage workshop employees suffering shortened lives because of their occupation?

Surely, by now some medical body would have highlighted such evidence, in a similar way that has occurred for coal miners, and building workers involved in dealing with asbestos?

In Leicester, when I was a kid, we were threatened with the “nine o’clock horses” if we were not in home by nine pm. There was some truth in this threat, but that was long gone by the time I was born.  Frankly, for the average person, I would put today’s vehicle pollution threat in the same category as a myth, based on now obsolete historical facts.

In nature, there are many things which can be a threat to health, and we live in a balance that is swayed by the health of the population.  Perhaps, if that health were at a level that existed 150 years ago, vehicle pollution would probably be life-threatening but, with our healthiness as it is today, no - vehicle pollution is not a plausible issue.

[Bper]

2 hours ago, Haliotis said:

Thousands of motor engineers spend their working lives in garages, and are therefore exposed to exhaust pollutants for up to 40 hours per week.  I have never heard of any reports of these workers being in life-threatening jobs due to pollution.  In fact, the only threat to life comes with warnings of electrocution from EVs if working practices are not strictly observed.

With all Sad Sick Khan’s rhetoric about dangers of health due to vehicle pollution, why hasn’t he, or the government, invoked an enquiry into the dangers to garage workshop employees?  Is there any evidence of garage workshop employees suffering shortened lives because of their occupation?

Surely, by now some medical body would have highlighted such evidence, in a similar way that has occurred for coal miners, and building workers involved in dealing with asbestos?

In Leicester, when I was a kid, we were threatened with the “nine o’clock horses” if we were not in home by nine pm. There was some truth in this threat, but that was long gone by the time I was born.  Frankly, for the average person, I would put today’s vehicle pollution threat in the same category as a myth, based on now obsolete historical facts.

In nature, there are many things which can be a threat to health, and we live in a balance that is swayed by the health of the population.  Perhaps, if that health were at a level that existed 150 years ago, vehicle pollution would probably be life-threatening but, with our healthiness as it is today, no - vehicle pollution is not a plausible issue.

Me thinks that perhaps global agendas are at play⏳ 

[Big_D]

3 hours ago, Haliotis said:

With all Sad Sick Khan’s rhetoric about dangers of health due to vehicle pollution, why hasn’t he, or the government, invoked an enquiry into the dangers to garage workshop employees?  Is there any evidence of garage workshop employees suffering shortened lives because of their occupation?

Once again; Its all about the money

[Bper]

Why has Khan payed £800,000 to imperial CV college since 2021 ?

Emails show deputy mayor Shirley Rodrigues twice asked an air quality expert to counter research questioning benefits of a polluting-vehicle charge.

Prof Kelly's science team from Imperial College London has been paid nearly £1m by Mr Khan's office.

The Labour mayor said Prof Kelly's work was not influenced by the funding.

Prof Kelly agreed to issue a statement that read "the actions of the mayor's office... including the introduction of the Ulez, collectively are providing a major benefit".

Ms Rodrigues then amended the statement, removing the word "collectively" and adding a line saying the introduction of the Ulez "has dramatically reduced air pollution in London".

On 13 February 2023, Ms Rodrigues again emailed Prof Kelly, asking him whether he could write to the Daily Telegraph to "challenge some of the misunderstandings" in its reporting.

Prof Kelly said Imperial College was against putting out a "direct contradiction" to the piece but said: "As always, I'm happy to fight back." Say's it all.

 

[Cyker]

8 hours ago, Haliotis said:

Thousands of motor engineers spend their working lives in garages, and are therefore exposed to exhaust pollutants for up to 40 hours per week.  I have never heard of any reports of these workers being in life-threatening jobs due to pollution.  In fact, the only threat to life comes with warnings of electrocution from EVs if working practices are not strictly observed.

Based on his own rhetoric, he should be fining himself - Diesel busses are still the most polluting vehicles on the road, as they haven't been subject to the same level of restrictions as everyone else. It's only recently that I've been seeing them upgrade a few of the busses in the old ULEZ extension!

Also, if so many people are allegedly dying due to car pollution, does this mean everyone who uses the Tube regularly can sue TFL for their health issues, given that particulate levels in the tube are up to 100x worse than street level, which has been known about for *decades* so why has nothing had been done???  

Because it would cost him money to do so, whereas slapping an arbitrary charge in the name of emission on drivers will give him money without him needing to actually do anything.

I just hope that all tradesmen and transport who do work for him and his lackeys pass on all the charges to them so they can see the same pain the rest of us will see...

[Big_D]

59 minutes ago, Cyker said:

I just hope that all tradesmen and transport who do work for him and his lackeys pass on all the charges to them so they can see the same pain the rest of us will see...

Even when they do pass on these costs, the like of the wealthy elite would be more than happy to pay. If you earn in excess of (and I'm making up figures here) £250,000 per year, what is a £12.50 charge in the overall scheme of your expenses

[Bper]

Someone please tell me is there any possibility that Genghis Khan will get another term after all he has done. A number of people are saying that he will. Are these people serious.

 

[Cyker]

I hate to say it but it's already happened once with the original ULEZ expansion so I wouldn't be surprised.

There are 2 main problems: One is there is a significant number of people that are affected who don't get to vote, as they come in from outside London, but there are a lot of tree-hugger types that live in the inner high density parts of London who don't even have driving licences and not only want the ULEZ but want to reclaim more roads for pedestrian and bike-access only.

The other problem is look who's being put up against him - Corrupt Tory, clueless libdem and greens, literal fascists, and if we're lucky Count Binface might throw his bin in the ring again. Not very strong competition.

I hear they're changing how the voting works for the Mayor this year too, so that'll make it even less likely he'll get dislodged (You used to get 2 votes, so you could vote for who you actually wanted to win, and the 2nd vote could go to the conservative candidate, which is why Shaun Bailey did as well as he did last time; Now I think we only get one vote which will dilute the vote spread even more.)

Basically unless loads of people vote Tory, which will be a tricky ask since everyone hates the Torys, I'm not very optimistic of our chances...

On top of that, the ULEZ was their idea in the first place (Albeit it was only supposed to stay in central London with the Congestion area...), and since we've established politicians can promise everything and then renege on those promises with no negative consequences, it's not even guaranteed this ULEZ/PPM gravy train will get derailed even if the Tory candidate gets voted in!

If there's one thing we've been consistently good at as a nation lately, it's voting against our best interests, so I would not be surprised if he gets in again  

[Bper]

3 minutes ago, Cyker said:

I hate to say it but it's already happened once with the original ULEZ expansion so I wouldn't be surprised.

There are 2 main problems: One is there is a significant number of people that are affected who don't get to vote, as they come in from outside London, but there are a lot of tree-hugger types that live in the inner high density parts of London who don't even have driving licences and not only want the ULEZ but want to reclaim more roads for pedestrian and bike-access only.

The other problem is look who's being put up against him - Corrupt Tory, clueless libdem and greens, literal fascists, and if we're lucky Count Binface might throw his bin in the ring again. Not very strong competition.

I hear they're changing how the voting works for the Mayor this year too, so that'll make it even less likely he'll get dislodged (You used to get 2 votes, so you could vote for who you actually wanted to win, and the 2nd vote could go to the conservative candidate, which is why Shaun Bailey did as well as he did last time; Now I think we only get one vote which will dilute the vote spread even more.)

Basically unless loads of people vote Tory, which will be a tricky ask since everyone hates the Torys, I'm not very optimistic of our chances...

On top of that, the ULEZ was their idea in the first place (Albeit it was only supposed to stay in central London with the Congestion area...), and since we've established politicians can promise everything and then renege on those promises with no negative consequences, it's not even guaranteed this ULEZ/PPM gravy train will get derailed even if the Tory candidate gets voted in!

If there's one thing we've been consistently good at as a nation lately, it's voting against our best interests, so I would not be surprised if he gets in again  

So of he does get in then pay per mile must be his natural next step. Do people honestly realize the impact this will have on them.

[Big_D]

3 minutes ago, Bper said:

So of he does get in then pay per mile must be his natural next step. Do people honestly realize the impact this will have on them.

Most peole don't have a clue how much impact this will have

[Bper]

1 minute ago, Big_D said:

Most peole don't have a clue how much impact this will have

Bob, sometimes I wonder if I am living on the same planet as these people. Are they blind or so totally wrapped up in their own self beliefs they can't see what is happening.😥

[Big_D]

I think they are so totally wrapped up in their own beliefs that they can't see the wood for the trees. It's all about their own little world.

[Cyker]

18 minutes ago, Bper said:

So of he does get in then pay per mile must be his natural next step. Do people honestly realize the impact this will have on them.

As I said, if there's one thing we're good at it's voting against our best interests and then complaining it wasn't what we voted for when the inevitable obvious consequences hit...

Still, maybe people here will have learned from the first ULEZ expansion, but since people are, collectively, idiots, I'm not holding my breath...

 

[CPN]

14 minutes ago, Big_D said:

I think they are so totally wrapped up in their own beliefs that they can't see the wood for the trees. It's all about their own little world.

In a word, it's called selfishness!!