Which Yaris

[AJones]

On 8/9/2023 at 5:50 PM, oldcodger said:

Our old Corolla is getting rather past it and looking for replacement, keynote - drive comfort,

Try test driving a hybrid or an EV and see how much drive comfort you get from the automatic transmission removing the need to work the clutch and the gears all of the time. 

I had always driven a manual transmission car but switching to a hybrid, the single biggest improvement is the automatic transmission, it makes driving relaxing particularly in towns and cities, or when stuck in stop-start traffic and congestion. 

It's one of those things where you try it and kick yourself for not ditching the old manual car sooner.

On 8/9/2023 at 5:50 PM, oldcodger said:

The current 2020 on  Hybrid only model does make us rather nervous about repair costs (despite the partial 10 year warranty options)  of the hybrid system if needed, so wondered if a previous 2019 model non hybrid 1.5 might be a better buy ? 

The reliability of the Toyota hybrids are generally reported as very good, which is why they are so popular as working vehicles for taxis doing huge mileages. Also, if you get it serviced by Toyota there's some benefit from their rolling extended warranty upto the 10 year point. They do warranty the Battery upto 15 years if you either get it serviced with them, or have an annual hybrid health check carried out which currently costs around £50.

[TonyHSD]

35 minutes ago, AJones said:

Try test driving a hybrid or an EV and see how much drive comfort you get from the automatic transmission removing the need to work the clutch and the gears all of the time. 

I had always driven a manual transmission car but switching to a hybrid, the single biggest improvement is the automatic transmission, it makes driving relaxing particularly in towns and cities, or when stuck in stop-start traffic and congestion. 

It's one of those things where you try it and kick yourself for not ditching the old manual car sooner.

The reliability of the Toyota hybrids are generally reported as very good, which is why they are so popular as working vehicles for taxis doing huge mileages. Also, if you get it serviced by Toyota there's some benefit from their rolling extended warranty upto the 10 year point. They do warranty the battery upto 15 years if you either get it serviced with them, or have an annual hybrid health check carried out which currently costs around £50.

Very well said. Thanks for that. 👌

I can confirm all above plus the reliability too.
My Auris from 2010 proofs it.
Used for business and covers excess of 200 miles per day almost every day since 2018 with only breaks during lockdowns and holidays for up to a 5 weeks. The car has done the best of all makes and models to date. I have been in the trade for many years now and never had as good as this car.
There are very few things that had been replaced on top of the regular service, mostly it’s an original car with all original parts. 
I know she is on her last days but I will keep her in good shape and use her until she dies completely because the reasons to still drive her are more than the reasons to get rid of it. 13 years, 248000 miles, both original batteries and fuel economy that has been unchanged. Best car ever. 👍
Not sure if I gonna buy Toyota again though, they are way too expensive. 

[Mojo1010]

Maybe best to test drive both MK3 and MK4 Yaris. If you don't drive from mid+ distances much then the mk3 can be fine. A lot of mid+ distances with high speed single carriageway then the mk3 do not perform well and it is hard work, the MK4 is very good at that. 

5 years of trouble free motoring on the MK3 Yaris hybrid. Only auto for me, not touching a manual again. Got the new Yaris mk4 design for 19k, no longer this price, it's £20,772 now on carwow. 

[Eddie G]

3 hours ago, AJones said:

Try test driving a hybrid or an EV and see how much drive comfort you get from the automatic transmission removing the need to work the clutch and the gears all of the time. 

I had always driven a manual transmission car but switching to a hybrid, the single biggest improvement is the automatic transmission, it makes driving relaxing particularly in towns and cities, or when stuck in stop-start traffic and congestion. 

It's one of those things where you try it and kick yourself for not ditching the old manual car sooner.

The reliability of the Toyota hybrids are generally reported as very good, which is why they are so popular as working vehicles for taxis doing huge mileages. Also, if you get it serviced by Toyota there's some benefit from their rolling extended warranty upto the 10 year point. They do warranty the battery upto 15 years if you either get it serviced with them, or have an annual hybrid health check carried out which currently costs around £50.

Don't do many motorway's but auto gears are great when your stuck in stop start traffic especially if doing a lot of motorway miles otherwise could take it or leave it for general around town use and the like.

[Lawnmowerman]

5 hours ago, TonyHSD said:

Very well said. Thanks for that. 👌

I can confirm all above plus the reliability too.
My Auris from 2010 proofs it.
Used for business and covers excess of 200 miles per day almost every day since 2018 with only breaks during lockdowns and holidays for up to a 5 weeks. The car has done the best of all makes and models to date. I have been in the trade for many years now and never had as good as this car.
There are very few things that had been replaced on top of the regular service, mostly it’s an original car with all original parts. 
I know she is on her last days but I will keep her in good shape and use her until she dies completely because the reasons to still drive her are more than the reasons to get rid of it. 13 years, 248000 miles, both original batteries and fuel economy that has been unchanged. Best car ever. 👍
Not sure if I gonna buy Toyota again though, they are way too expensive. 

You have just listed all the reasons why your next car should be a Toyota 😂

[Mojo1010]

Can't fathom tony not getting a Toyota next, with more cash it would be a lexus. Just got another Toyota myself, MK4, would be another Toyota after this. 

[TonyHSD]

1 hour ago, Mojo1010 said:

Can't fathom tony not getting a Toyota next, with more cash it would be a lexus. Just got another Toyota myself, MK4, would be another Toyota after this. 

If the current car last me 300000 miles or 15 years whichever comes first without need to change any major components,  I will buy a Toyota, I promise. 😂

[Rhymes with Paris]

Unless you fancy a bit of variety on your journeys Tony.

Just think of all the fun you could have with some other makes of car.

Meeting new people from breakdown companies,hours of fun waiting at motorway services sampling the delightful cuisine.

Endless trips to dealers to try and get things fixed, maybe coffee there too.

Or like a friend of mine who broke down miles away from home, breakdown couldn't or wouldn't get him home.

So he got to meet a lovely b&b owner, and stayed 5 days while a main dealer faffed around fixing the problem at his expense.

 

 

[thomas mcloughlin]

On 8/9/2023 at 10:16 PM, Stevie J said:

My father's last car before he passed away was a Toyota Corolla, one of the older style models from 2001 on a Y reg plate. His was the 1.4 GLS and he absolutely loved it, He bought the car in 2006 at 5 years old. That car was very well made, and he never had, in all the years he owned it, any problem with it at all. They looked a bit old fashioned, and were classed as on "old man's car" - how many of these did you see with young guys driving them lol, but it was practical, and had a massive boot, also good on fuel. We sold that car in 2019 when father went into care with Alzheimers, and all it needed to pass its MOT for the new owner was a new rear brake caliper.

That car is still on the road today, Y662TJW, as I have just checked it on DVLA and it comes up taxed and with current MOT. I havent got a photo of it to hand, but it was on Google streetview on his driveway so I have shown these pics of it - it was his pride and joy.

Hello this is now my pride and joy and I stay in the highlands of Scotland.

It's still in Great condition and I take great care of it

[Stevie J]

1 hour ago, thomas mcloughlin said:

Hello this is now my pride and joy and I stay in the highlands of Scotland.

It's still in Great condition and I take great care of it

Thanks for the confirmation my dad's old Corolla is still on the road, I cant believe its now all the way up in Scotland now. Dad lived in Telford, Shropshire which was where those photos were, outside his house. We sold the car to a local guy who was going to get it MOT'd and sold on again for just a few hundred quid - it only had something like 41K miles on the clock, as it wasnt really driven at all in the years between 2016 and 2019, as Dad was unable to drive any more, and kept it in the garage. Dad would be very proud that old car was still on the road and being enjoyed, he always loved driving it and saying what a lovely car it was. Hope you keep it on the road as long as the Scottish winters will allow it to.

Maybe not a Corolla on his driveway nowadays, but my mother and I are still very much in the Toyota family, and I'm sure Dad would be pleased about that too

[Mojo1010]

Interesting to hear what the OP has decided to get. 

[oldcodger]

57 minutes ago, Mojo1010 said:

Interesting to hear what the OP has decided to get. 

Well not bought anything yet, though appreciate all the views above.

Just a case of finding the right car at the right price, though little sign of the s/h market calming down any time soon.

Got the old Corolla though the Mot without a hitch so have some breathing space, thats if we can afford the 70% increase the insurance company want !  needless to say we will be Comparing and haggling .

Seems our age and the cars age is really affecting the premiums, the breakdown cover has also gone up quiet a bit as its now past their 16 year old mark.

[TonyHSD]

At the current financial situation no cars new or used will go down in prices and no house prices will drop. It seems the value of the money badly reduced by 30-40% or more in comparison to 2020. The only thing that drops in current circumstances is the consumer buying power. Most people are getting poorer and unable to buy even basic stuff, cars and technology becomes impossible or house purchases only a dream. Yes if you have a job , we’ll paid one £50k + a year and you are young 25-30 years old there are financial options and you lock yourself paying monthly for life. 
I still believe that if you have a car that starts and drive , no matter how old it is or what fuel burns , keep it and drive it until wheels fell off is the most sensible choice. Only change the car if uneconomical to repair or the job requires upgrade.
 

[Mojo1010]

For breakdown try https://www.startrescue.co.uk/

Having an old car which if isn't worth much then is not easy to upgrade with used and new prices so high. Since I had the last car, 5 years ago for 9500, been saving then towards one day upgrading to a newer or bigger car in the future. 

1 year old car has the same cost as new, 2 year old was just 1000-1500 less than new on the Yaris MK4. So it didn't make sense to buy used. The good thing was my last car got £9100 after 5 years of ownership, depreciation of 400 in that time, enable me to buy new. Without a good sale price on mine or much older car, would probably have stuck with it. It's probably going to be a few years before prices start falling. 

[oldcodger]

4 hours ago, Mojo1010 said:

For breakdown try https://www.startrescue.co.uk/

Having an old car which if isn't worth much then is not easy to upgrade with used and new prices so high. Since I had the last car, 5 years ago for 9500, been saving then towards one day upgrading to a newer or bigger car in the future. 

1 year old car has the same cost as new, 2 year old was just 1000-1500 less than new on the Yaris MK4. So it didn't make sense to buy used. The good thing was my last car got £9100 after 5 years of ownership, depreciation of 400 in that time, enable me to buy new. Without a good sale price on mine or much older car, would probably have stuck with it. It's probably going to be a few years before prices start falling. 

Thanks, did get a price from them but they are almost the same as what we already have.

 

Yes,  nearly new seems poor value and would perhaps consider ordeing a new car but with many months wait time, would we still be here !!   

[Mojo1010]

Actually found one, at this price isn't so bad. Yaris MK4 design 

[thomas mcloughlin]

On 11/3/2023 at 2:17 AM, thomas mcloughlin said:

Hello this is now my pride and joy and I stay in the highlands of Scotland.

It's still in Great condition and I take great care of it

I have attached a picture. 

It's currently on its winter wheels

[oldcodger]

Nice !

You just keep the lexus as the daily runner ? 

[Stevie J]

14 hours ago, thomas mcloughlin said:

I have attached a picture. 

It's currently on its winter wheels

Was going to say - it didnt have those wheels on it when dad owned it, had alloys on, but those did need refurbing to be honest, older Toyota alloys seem to corrode, and when I had my Yaris Mk1, I had to change the factory fit alloys as they kept sufferering from deflating tyres due to corroded rims. I see you went with steelies and plastic trims - they do suit the car and with the Scottish winters, probably for the best to have winter tyres on it.

My old Yaris Mk1 (which I sold on back in 2016) had the wheel replacements back in 2012 due to corrosion of the original wheels, but I replaced them with alloys rather than steelies.

[Cyker]

11 hours ago, Stevie J said:

Was going to say - it didnt have those wheels on it when dad owned it, had alloys on, but those did need refurbing to be honest, older Toyota alloys seem to corrode, and when I had my Yaris Mk1, I had to change the factory fit alloys as they kept sufferering from deflating tyres due to corroded rims. I see you went with steelies and plastic trims - they do suit the car and with the Scottish winters, probably for the best to have winter tyres on it.

My old Yaris Mk1 (which I sold on back in 2016) had the wheel replacements back in 2012 due to corrosion of the original wheels, but I replaced them with alloys rather than steelies.

Oh god I remember that with both my Mk1s - The Used Approved was the worst, with a piece the side of my hand peeling off!

Got into an argument with my insurance company as I wanted to get some cheapo wolfrace rims from e-bay to replace them, but lucky I checked first as they said that would count as a modification now bend over please, so I ended up getting the original rims stripped and refurbed by a local powder coaters.

(Which cost more than the wolfrace rims but less than the insurance hike and the wolfrace rims combined!)

 

I don't know what it was about the alloys on the Mk1, but even when I was looking to buy a 2nd one, 90% of the ones with the same 15" alloy rims had the same problem with the paint on the rims coming off in big chunks!

 

[Mojo1010]

On 11/3/2023 at 5:26 PM, oldcodger said:

Thanks, did get a price from them but they are almost the same as what we already have.

 

Yes,  nearly new seems poor value and would perhaps consider ordeing a new car but with many months wait time, would we still be here !!   

Think you may want to get it soon before your codger becomes too old to use. 

[Stevie J]

12 hours ago, Cyker said:

Oh god I remember that with both my Mk1s - The Used Approved was the worst, with a piece the side of my hand peeling off!

Got into an argument with my insurance company as I wanted to get some cheapo wolfrace rims from e-bay to replace them, but lucky I checked first as they said that would count as a modification now bend over please, so I ended up getting the original rims stripped and refurbed by a local powder coaters.

(Which cost more than the wolfrace rims but less than the insurance hike and the wolfrace rims combined!)

 

I don't know what it was about the alloys on the Mk1, but even when I was looking to buy a 2nd one, 90% of the ones with the same 15" alloy rims had the same problem with the paint on the rims coming off in big chunks!

 

I never declared my replacement alloys to insurance, never really thought too much about it at the time as I was replacing OE alloys for aftermarket alloys of the same dimension, offset etc. It was only later I did think I'd better make sure on the next cars I get, I dont get fitting aftermarket alloys - would have to be like for like. My next Yaris was an 06 plate T3 with steelies and plastic trims so no problems with them. The one I have now has common alloys fitted to tons of Mk3 models so shouldnt be a problem if I need to change them in the future. I always try to keep my cars as stock with no mods as I know these days insurers look for any reason possible to increase premiums.

[Trewithy]

17 hours ago, Stevie J said:

I always try to keep my cars as stock with no mods as I know these days insurers look for any reason possible to increase premiums.

And they look for any excuse not to pay out in the event of a claim.

[oldcodger]

Just been doing the comparison sites as our insurer wanted a 70% increase this year!

The few insurers we looked at all have a section asking if Any modifcations have been done and if we said yes, they just said "we cannot insure your car "  !

Don't think they want to get involved in extra premiums for alloys etc, too much trouble for them, plus they know its likey other undeclared things will have been done.

Does make you wonder about all the heavily modifed car you see screaming around , if they cause a crash likely they will have to pay out of their own pockets  unless they use a specialist insurer like Adrian Flux etc ...