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I know tyre choice results in many differing opinions which are valid. I just thought I would give my opinion on Michelin Cross Climate 2 tyres which I recently fitted. I live in Aberdeen in north east Scotland which has had pretty heavy snow falls in the past couple of days. My Cross Climate 2 tyres have been absolutely superb in the snow and ice. I was a bit concerned moving from a Land Cruiser to a Corolla as far as winter driving was concerned but I am pleasantly surprised as to these tyres ability. I really needn’t have worried.

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Hi

What type of tyre did you replace and how would you rate them as far as road noise goes ?

Thanks.

 

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25 minutes ago, cea said:

Hi

What type of tyre did you replace and how would you rate them as far as road noise goes ?

Thanks.

 

The Michelins replaced the Falkens that the Corolla had when I got it. I know folk say that they think that they are noisy. I honestly can’t say that I find them noisy. They are slightly noisier than the Falkens but after a couple of days use I stopped noticing.

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Cross climate and all all seasons tyres v shaped tread pattern are actually way quieter than any other types of tyres and particularly the summer tyres. 
 

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I replaced my front Falkens (34,000 miles) with Michelin 225/40 R18 92 (Y) PRIMACY 4+ XL. £174 fitted at Costco after £40 off for buying two. Non-business membership is around £26 from memory. Tyres are really good and Costco were great. My mate has a garage and said he can't buy Michelins for the price Costco sell them at. 

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I just had CrossClimate2s installed today on my new-to-me 2019 Corolla Hybrid, a decision guided in large part by a positive experience from the 30,000 miles that I put on CC2s in Canada and the US (where I was driving a Subaru Outback between Quebec, New York City and Florida).  On the Corolla, from the first few miles on  South London streets, I found them to be way more quiet and smoother that the gawdawful Falken OEMs.  I'll be doing most of my UK driving in the winter months going forward, so riding on a winter-capable rubber compound was a deciding factor for me.

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I also use CC2. I used them before on Peugeot 308 as well, and with my modest portion of km per year (12k) a did not find any objective or subjective downs, apart from saving costs of changing/storing tyres twice a year.

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I’ve had cross climates fitted all round on my last 2 cars and found them superb. The original purchase of CC1s was from ATS and the guy there was telling me about how durable the tyre was as he had a long term sales rep customer who struggled to get good life out of most tyres until he switched to the Michelins. They come into their own in this weather but invariably no matter how good your own tyres are, you are still going to find most roads blocked by other road users running standard tyres. Also will still not work well on ungritted compacted ice on most estate side roads and car parks.

 

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The CC2s supposedly improve snow and ice grip but are slightly less good in summer than the CC1s.

The CCs in general are very well suited to the southern-half of the country, where summer tyres are optimal for 95% of the year but you just need some winter grip for the odd snow day.

I think as you get further north, having proper winter tyres might be better, judging by how much more snow there seems to be!! :eek: 

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1 hour ago, Cyker said:

The CC2s supposedly improve snow and ice grip but are slightly less good in summer than the CC1s.

The CCs in general are very well suited to the southern-half of the country, where summer tyres are optimal for 95% of the year but you just need some winter grip for the odd snow day.

I think as you get further north, having proper winter tyres might be better, judging by how much more snow there seems to be!! :eek: 

So far I have been happy with my CC2s in the amount of snow and ice we get here in north east Scotland. Remember that these all-season tyres qualify for the three-peak categorisation and are marked accordingly.

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These and most others v shaped all season tyres are in many ways better than some budget winter tyres on snow and ice. They are way better than summer tyres in cold and snowy weather. They only have three major downsides: reduced fuel efficiency, harsher ride, and they have tendency to withhold stones between treads and make these Click click click noise. 

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I'm also in Aberdeen and into my third winter on all season tyres, Goodyear Vector.  They are definitely quieter that the original Falkens (which I disliked with a bit of a passion!) and as Tony says there is definitely reduced fuel efficiency.  At the time, I spent quite a bit of time studying reviews from which I concluded that there was little between the CC and Vector in snow but in summer the CC performed better in dry conditions with the Vector better in wet.  And since "wet" is something we're not paticularly short of in Aberdeen, I went with the Vectors!

Last September, my wife and I were on holiday in a city in Northern Italy and I was amazed at how many cars were fitted with all season tyres - maybe as many as 30%.  So the Italians have definitley embraced them much more than we have.  But how sad am I, going on holiday and spending time squinting at the tyres on parked cars!

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18 hours ago, Clockwork said:

..........  I concluded that there was little between the CC and Vector in snow but in summer the CC performed better in dry conditions with the Vector better in wet.  And since "wet" is something we're not paticularly short of in Aberdeen, I went with the Vectors!

I had both CrossClimates 2's followed bt the Goodyears on a previous Fiesta.  I found the CC's a little baggy compared with the OE summer Continentals, but drove very well in all conditions (and I think rather suited the pointiness of the Fiesta).  They did  get noisy though - a droning noise (like wheel bearing) due to "saw tooth" type wear on the tread blocks - maybe as I had run them a few psi above recommended.  They still worked very well too when worn - and replaced after 30k due to a wrecked wheel and tyre.  I thought that the replacement Goodyears had a little less feel again, were a little more baggy etc.  Sadly I never got to wear out the Goodyears as the car had to be replaced.

To put the 30k into perspective, the OE Summer Continentals were worn out at 18k.

When I replace the tyres on my TS with 17" wheels the Michelin will be my 1st choice, but if there is a significant offer on the Goodyears eg at Costco I may be tempted.

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The Cross Climate 2s always score highly in all season tyre comparison tests. Often get first place.

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The new Continental All Season Contact 2 might also be worth a look as it gets pretty decent / even results compared to the Michelin Cross Climate 2 in intendent testing. 

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Michelin every time. 

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Just ordered 4 Goodyear vector4s, 20% off so decent price, will see how they perform 

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Let us know how you get on! Anecdotally the Vector4 Seasons are more balanced than the CCs, so they work better in cold and snow but aren't as dynamic in summer.

Not sure what they're like these days or vs the CC2, which is also slightly more winter-biased than the CC and CC+ according to the TyreReviews guy.

 

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5 minutes ago, Cyker said:

Let us know how you get on! Anecdotally the Vector4 Seasons are more balanced than the CCs, so they work better in cold and snow but aren't as dynamic in summer.

Not sure what they're like these days or vs the CC2, which is also slightly more winter-biased than the CC and CC+ according to the TyreReviews guy.

 

I have Vector 4 Seasons on my Auris. Drove home 30 miles in heavy snow on Thursday. No problem at all, very sure footed and solid feeling. (Having said that, when its time to replace them, I'm planning on getting CC2s, as the reviews say they perform better in the wet/rain, and we tend to get a lot more rain than we do snow. Overall, I reckon both tyres are really good and will look after you are your car in foul weather)

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