Is an Aygo 2019 too old?

[NeedANewerCar]

Firstly, I'd like to thank everyone for helping me in the past on this forum with your good advice.  It's been fantastic.

I still haven't purchased a car yet as I'm taking my time.  I still like the Toyota Aygo's and found another I like, but it's 2019.  Is that too old?  What should the year ideally be?  (scratches head).  I don't want to end up spending money on repairs like I've done with my 17 yo Citroen C1.

 

[152bobby]

If it has FTSH and the body work and interior is good or above, you really can't go wrong.

My daughter's 2014 MK2 Toyota Aygo is in super all-round excellent condition and would put some 3 or 4 year old Aygos to shame.

Aygos on the Toyota dealer forecourts are commanding a overally high price, don't be afraid to look at a private sale and even one that's a bit older, it will save you money .

Its your choice in the end 👍

[Puglet]

Firstly, 2019 is not old at all, as I said before don't worry too much about age or mileage, but the general conditon and service history is more important. I would rather buy an older, well cared for car with solid service history than a used and abused newer car, but with the main dealer network you should only find newer well maintained cars, which is the main thing. Anything too old gets passed further down the car food chain, seen a few older very well cared outlighers in the past on main dealer forecouts, which quite rightly derserve their place there, but they are a rarety. 

As for your old C1, I don't know it's history, yes it may have cost a lot to maintain in recent years, that goes with running an older car, but don't forget those years where it cost nothing more than regular servicing etc. We all been there, you get some lean years of car ownership and then some years where everything seems to go wrong within a few months, but you have to balance it over the whole life/time you owned the car. 

Also, remember your old C1 was a Mk1 car and the Mk2 is a big improvement, water leaks are rare and they fixed a lot the other issues with the Mk2. Like Bobby above, we have an early Mk2, but a toyota engined Peugeot 108 and that has been spot on in the  5 years we owned it.

[NeedANewerCar]

It's at a main Toyota dealer.

[152bobby]

1 hour ago, NeedANewerCar said:

It's at a main Toyota dealer.

So no worries then.  Just make sure 2 sets of keys, service book is fully up to date and give the interior and exterior a really good going over in DAYLIGHT and when it's not RAINING.👍

[Yugguy1970]

We bought a 2019 Aygo last year for our daughter.  Easy to drive, cheap to insure, cheap to run, service at Toyota and get 10 years warrranty.  Not had it that long but no issues to report.

It's not fast but also it's not weedy.  It will cruise with 4 people in at 70mph without problem and with a bit of revs get there in a reasonable time.

They are lowering in price because of the AygoX so are getting to be great value.

There shouldn't be any major issues with it if it's coming from a main dealer but if there are minor things then get them to sort before delivery.

It should come with a free year's breakdown cover as well.

Never take their first offer and never stump up for extras that you don't really need like paint protection or wheel scuff insurance.  If you end up trading it back to them in the future they couldn't care less as they fix it anyway and move it on.  If you run it for 10 years then it won't really matter either.

 

[Crickleymal]

Too old? All our cars (all Toyota) are 2008 vintage.

[Rhymes with Paris]

21 year old Toyota here.

Not me, the car.

As others have said condition and previous treatment/service history (if genuine history of course, easily forged) are the most important.

Unless of course you want to rely on a warranty, then you need newer.

But I often ask myself what good is a warranty if not honoured properly , weasley worded or for whatever reason, and what good is one if your car is stuck in a dealership waiting for parts for weeks.

We all have our own different experiences of course, but as you are not in any hurry, I would be carefully looking at local cars owned by older drivers, maybe thinking of giving up driving.

These can often be seen in newsagents card ads.

Pay a fair price, and put the money saved in the bank to cover any servicing, breakdowns tyres etc.

 

 

[Rhymes with Paris]

Ps my friend bought a 2015 high mileage Aygo last year for £5k , it's fine so far 🤞

[152bobby]

When you are looking at MK2 Aygos, buying a "young" one is possibly just a waste of spending money that you don't need to spend to get the exact same result.  Like I said earlier, you would not be able to tell the difference from my daughter's 2014 model against a 2019 model (hers even has remote entry and push start button)...the obvious giveaway is the DRLs are not in the bumper, but in the headlights and the tail lights are different, but I upgraded the rear lights to the new ones, so you can't tell the difference from the rear.  I've even changed the 2 button head unit to the 3 button head unit which has AA and AP....why Toyota bothered to do these changes I don't know !! The head unit,  yes I get that because of the AA and AP.

[Chas G]

I have had 2 Aygos in the past,  2006 and 2018. Never had a problem with either of them. Excellent little cars but a bit underpowered up big hills and on the motorway.

Not big enough in the back for adults but plenty of headroom in the front. I would look for one that has full Toyota service history and lowish mileage from a main dealer.

In my experience over the last 20 years of newish toyotas I would say you can rely on them selling you a good car.

I paid about £7k for my last one when it was about a year old, bought unseen after looking at photos on the internet and delivered by Steven Eagell Peterborough and traded it back to them about 2 years later.

Good luck with your search.

[Wiz201]

If I was to go for an older one, I'd go 2017 or less for the free tax.

[152bobby]

3 minutes ago, Wiz201 said:

If I was to go for an older one, I'd go 2017 or less for the free tax.

Spot on suggestion, my daughter loves not having to pay car tax every year 👍

[152bobby]

32 minutes ago, 152bobby said:

Spot on suggestion, my daughter loves not having to pay car tax every year 👍

Thinking about this, was it 2017 onwards that Toyota did a minor facelift/upgrade (as I have mentioned above about the front and rear lights etc ?)

[Cyker]

The pre-2017 tax is a good plus on those; I'm still sad my Mk4, despite being the 'cleanest' vehicle I've owned, is the most expensive to tax, even more than the Fiesta, and that had insanely high tax for a 1.3L engine because the CO2 was so high!  

[Wiz201]

20 hours ago, 152bobby said:

Thinking about this, was it 2017 onwards that Toyota did a minor facelift/upgrade (as I have mentioned above about the front and rear lights etc ?)

I think it was 2018 it had a minor facelift. Rosie was my red 2017 car that was the last of the original mk2s before they changed.

[152bobby]

Just now, Wiz201 said:

I think it was 2021 it had a minor facelift.

So what did they do to the MK2 between it's release and 2017 for it qualifying for Tax ?

[Wiz201]

Sorry I edited my post, it was 2018. I think the government had just decided to tax all new cars from that time.

[FROSTYBALLS]

54 minutes ago, 152bobby said:

So what did they do to the MK2 between it's release and 2017 for it qualifying for Tax ?

VED tables were revised from April 2017, which based the first year on CO2 emissions and subsequent years as a flat rate;

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-excise-duty/vehicle-excise-duty

[Puglet]

Yep as Wiz says the government just moved the goal posts cos they must been losing so much tax money. Think even the late Mk1s were hitting below the magic 100g/km, so were zero tax and then when the toyota engined Mk2s improved on that again, think ours is 95g, from the start, bet that got the powers that be worried.

Funnily enough back in 2017 when we got our used one, the Peugeot dealer had loads of pre-registered 108 cars for sale on the forecourt, remember they were quite a good deal, but still too rich for our budget.

 

 

[rich146]

There is a difference in build quality between French and Japanese manufacture. There's your answer 👍

[FROSTYBALLS]

52 minutes ago, rich146 said:

There is a marginal difference in build quality between French and Japanese manufacture. There's your answer 👍

Although the Aygo, C1 and 107/108 were all manufactured at the same plant in the Czech Republic (as is the Aygo X).