Correct Oil?

[vivavlad]

Would this oil be compatible with my 2014 MK2 Aygo with 30000?

[FROSTYBALLS]

Toyota only specify API standards - API SL, SM, SN - so as this is API SN should be OK.

[planc]

5W30 is the norm but 0W20 should be fine, I got a service pack from Toyota for my 15 plate Citroen C1 and was given 0W16😳 I have put it in as it will be fine over the colder months but I think I will switch to 5W30 when the weather warns up.

[FROSTYBALLS]

59 minutes ago, planc said:

5W30 is the norm

Not for the Aygo. 

For the second generation Aygo pre-facelift, 0W20 is the correct oil. Toyota uses the API specs, and API SN plus is fine.

Stellantis may recommend 5W-30 for the C1/108 - but that's their recommendation for their brands.

[planc]

Fair play, but Toyota main dealer supplied 5W 30 last year and told me that was recommended up to the facelift year. And facelift onwards should be 0W 20.

Then this year they supplied 0W 16, when I rang them to double check they said it was incorrectly supplied and they would change it if I preferred.

 

[Vandals01]

Dealership are filled with idiots that doesn't know what they are doing.  E.g:

My first Vauxhall Corsa had dealership service stamp filled with the entire book.  Yet, it had a broken cylinder.  Upon inspection, a bit of spark plug electrode was found inside the cylinder, causing excessive play at the piston.

My friend's Nissan Qashqai, ask the dealership to change the CVT fluid.  Dealership's response was: "IT CAN NOT BE DONE".

My friend's Hyundai had full dealership history.  When I changed the brake from him, it turns out some idiot use air impact to tighten the caliper pin's bolt, stripping all the thread inside the caliper pin.

My friend's Volkswagen Tiguan had dealership history, yet, they managed to overlook the fact DSG fluid required to be changed every 30K.  At 80K, the Tiguan lost 2,4,6 gear costing £1500+ to fix. 

Friend's Skoda Kodiaq went to dealership to carried out service.  She did mention about brakes.  A month later, she had horrible grinding / squeaking sounds coming from the rear.  It turns out that the dealership did not inspect the brake properly (only look at the outside pad, never check the inside).  The inside pads were worn down to metal.

 

Do you still trust the dealership?

[Nordboy70]

I just did an oil change on my daughters 2014 mk 2, and used 0w20. The oil you have there should be absolutely fine as has been said. One of the easiest cars to do a full service on I've done in years.

[vivavlad]

I agree, most of the time spent servicing this car is waiting for the oil to drain. The Mannol oil seems very good value (maybe too good) at £21.99 for 4 litres from Amazon.

[Vandals01]

On 4/14/2024 at 7:18 AM, vivavlad said:

I agree, most of the time spent servicing this car is waiting for the oil to drain. The Mannol oil seems very good value (maybe too good) at £21.99 for 4 litres from Amazon.

I used Mannol oil all the time and never had any problems.  In fact, I've used:

7715 (5w30 VW504/507) <- to service Volkswagen group cars

7908 (5w30 Dexos C3) <- On most cars that required 5w30, and it is the one I purchased the most

7913 (5w40 C3) <- For FIAT

7918 (5w20 the one you used) <- Tried it initially, but I later switched to...

7921 (0w20 C5) <- This is the one I'm currently used in my 2012 Aygo

 

The 7918 is Okay.  But my Aygo had oil consumption problem, so I wanted a LOW SAP oil that's more gentle towards Catalytic converter, hence C5.  Strangely enough, oil consumption improved after switching to 7921.  After the oil changed, initial 2000 mile drinks less than 400 ml.  Although oil consumption do get worst as oil becomes more dirty, but still an improvement nevertheless.

[vivavlad]

18 hours ago, Vandals01 said:

 

7918 (5w20 the one you used) <- Tried it initially, but I later switched to...

 

7918 is 0w20.

I didn't realise there was a better Mannol (7921). I will try next time.

[Stormchaser]

On 4/12/2024 at 11:17 PM, Vandals01 said:

Dealership are filled with idiots that doesn't know what they are doing.  E.g:

My friend's Nissan Qashqai, ask the dealership to change the CVT fluid.  Dealership's response was: "IT CAN NOT BE DONE"

Do you still trust the dealership?

Yes also Lexus told me that my eCVT gearbox was sealed for life (LOL) and has no oil change schedule.I showed him the drain and fill plugs photo and he still stood by his comment.

They ARE all idiots!

The wifes 2020 Aygo(NoGO) has a outer edge bold tyre on the n/s/f.They checked the alignment at an extra cost £9.99 (it was a special offer LOL).They said all was ok and not to worry.That is the stupidest remark i have ever heard.Its only done 20K and has a bold tyre

The pressures are ok and she doesn,t fast corner as she is only a learner.

I literally don,t know who to trust no more in the car trade.Its all about the money and ZERO customer service.

Shame on you Hendy Toyota of Christchurch and Lexus Poole.

[planc]

21 hours ago, Stormchaser said:

Yes also Lexus told me that my eCVT gearbox was sealed for life (LOL) and has no oil change schedule.I showed him the drain and fill plugs photo and he still stood by his comment.

They ARE all idiots!

The wifes 2020 Aygo(NoGO) has a outer edge bold tyre on the n/s/f.They checked the alignment at an extra cost £9.99 (it was a special offer LOL).They said all was ok and not to worry.That is the stupidest remark i have ever heard.Its only done 20K and has a bold tyre

The pressures are ok and she doesn,t fast corner as she is only a learner.

I literally don,t know who to trust no more in the car trade.Its all about the money and ZERO customer service.

Shame on you Hendy Toyota of Christchurch and Lexus Poole.

As far as I know, the eCVT doesn't have a service schedule however it does have drain and fill plugs because they would need to get the fluid in at build.

There is nothing stopping anyone changing the fluid though, and reports have said the fluid looks much darker when drained than the new stuff.

Uneven wear on a small car does seam unusual, heavy motors with wide wheels can scrub the N/S/F due to the load on roundabouts. But 20,000 miles is also reasonable for a tyre.

What brand of tyre is on currently? 

[Cyker]

The thing that kills oil is heat cycles and friction; The PSD is just gears - It shouldn't experience high heat and doesn't have any friction force transmitting surfaces like an actual steel-belt CVT, so the oil should last a very long time, albeit not forever...!

I don't think I've heard of anyone changing the oil in the hybrid PSD...

[Stormchaser]

9 hours ago, planc said:

 

What brand of tyre is on currently? 

Its the original factory fitted Michelins.

[planc]

Strange, I thought they came with Continental's from the factory. They usually design the suspension and geometry with a specific brand an model in mind so fitting a different brand can result in a different ride characteristic or wear pattern.

[flash22]

The ECVT does have a fluid  interval it even has the procedure in the service manual - inspect at 36 months (replace at 60k miles in severe use or every 72 months there after) the eCVT uses Toyota ATF WS

 

tyre brands can change depending on supply C1, 108 and Aygo come from the same factory but have very different specs

 

tyre scrubbing, get it on a 4 wheel alignment machine, you can have the best of the best equipment, knowing how to use it is another matter

it doesn't take much tapping a curb is enough to do it and can scrub a tyre out in 50-100 miles

most places will give you a printout