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Hi everyone. I'm in the market for a reliable car for the mrs so natuarlly I've loked at what taxi drivers use and I've decided to get her a Corolla hybrid estate. I have 18k and I want to buy aprroved used a 2020 onwards ideally so I can get the 10Y warranty.

18K is only just getitng me into a 2.0 approved used. I was told the 2.0 is better than the 1.8 in terms of perfoemmace, night and day I was told. Is this the case? Is the 1.8 that much worse? The car will be 90% used around town for school runs etc and a once monthly 200 mile round trip on the motorway.

Should I consider the 1.8 because with my budget there's a lot more options for me?

ETA: I have just found a 2020 2.0 with 75,000 miles, is that considered high for these?

Thank you in advance.

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I think you should drive  both 1.8 and 2.0 before you decide.   Some suggest that that the 1.8 is slightly more economical than the 2.0 (at least pre 2023 cars), and that the 2.0 is more relaxing to drive as it accelerates more rapidly, and maybe quieter too.  I tested both back in 2022 and reckoned the 1.8 adequate, whereas the 2.0 could almost be fun.

I find my own 2.0 TS is capable of being driven rapidly (or in my case meander along rapidly?) - it handles very much better than I would ever have expected - and the 2.0 means that it can accelarate quite quickly.  But its not that sort of car and seems to encourage a more relaxed manner.  Mine has averaged over 56mpg according to dash display over whole life and 20k.  

As for a 4 year old car with 75k miles - I would be more interested in condition and service history.  But there must be plenty with lower miles to look at?  

Good kuck.

 

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the 1.8 has a lot more power from 2023 onwards and the difference in power between them is now less. Pre 2023 there is a significant difference.

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1.8 is enaugh. 2.0 is fun.

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For me it would be the 1.8. I would buy outright and heard a few engine and injector failures of the 2 litre engine. Misfires etc leading to engine needing replacement. No issue while under warranty but what happens when not?

I have a 1.8 Auris Hybrid TS and the engine size and performance are adequate. My Auris is low mileage, covered 50,000 miles. Replaced AC condenser under warranty. New 12 volt Battery, during covid. Tyres x4 Goodyear. Front and rear disks and pads.

James.

 

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I prefer the 2.0 litre (i do a few long motorway journeys) but probably for the fact that 90% of your journeys are around town then the 1.8 will be adequate.

I would search Autotrader for your budget and find both a 1.8 and a 2.0 near your location and take them both out(bear in mind that if you go for a test drive what it will feel like if loaded up with kids dogs and everything else)

When you decide which one you want there are hundreds to choose from so find the best condition/service history spec you prefer as there is no point having regrets once you have bought.

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+ 1 for 1.8 👌 

The 1.8 hybrids even those with 122bhp are still very nice cars to drive. They doesn’t  feel slow or underpowered at all.  Only  in certain conditions you may feel the need of more power, like when loaded and you want to overtake fast on motorway or fast uphill, then you need to push it a bit harder, in any other situations the 1.8 hybrids are super smooth, super efficient and very relaxing to drive with respectful and responsive acceleration. For town drives probably you won’t be able to tell a difference if you test drive both without been informed which is 1.8 and 2.0. 

 

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For myself I would go with 1.8, is a long tested engine on multiple cars and long time, enough power, also I would look for smaller rim size due to the "quality" of asphalt lately in UK

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Do a couple of test drives. You may need to adapt to driving a Toyota hybrid in the more relaxing manner that gets the best from them (some struggle to adapt and are disappointed) but they are excellent cars and worth giving a go.

If you want to spend less consider looking for a 68 plate Auris 1.8L estate - it's mostly the same car!

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If it’s for your mrs the 1.8 will be fine.

i have the 2.0 but that’s because I bought based on spec (jbl stereo, pan roof)

I’ve never needed to tap in the to “2.0” worth of power. The 1.8 would have been fine. 

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I think the 1.8 is enough for the 90% of local runs, that you said gives more choices. It will lack poke on the motorway, but that is very limited for your partner's use. 

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4 hours ago, ThomasL said:

If you want to spend less consider looking for a 68 plate Auris 1.8L estate - it's mostly the same car!

This is why I haven't upgraded to a corolla 1.8 estate. I may get 7-8k trade in for my 50k mile 2015 auris TS and a 2022 replacement is around 22-25k from main dealer with good mileage.

It's a lot of cash to lay out when the Auris does the same thing and has free road tax at the moment. Drove a 2022 Icon TS 1.8 and overall impressions as a short 10 mile loan car were, I found the seats a bit firm, the headliner black so interior gloomy. Never used Cruise etc. Economy as expected way better. Auris 55mpg. Corolla 72 on short 5 mile each way. If I was going for a used Corolla probably buy Icon Tech or Trek. New just Icon.

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Metropolitan police and some other counties are using Corolla TS as patrol cars and all of them are icon 1.8. There are some commercial units too with the same engine. Officers seems happier and more relaxed 😉👮‍♂️

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Well it must be more relaxing knowing they can leave their cars running at a crime scene without it randomly suddenly catching fire like the diesel BMWs :laugh: 

 

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You say you want a 2020 onwards to get the 10 year warranty, that was also on the 2019 cars also the the one you’re looking at is on 75k. That means the warranty will end in only 25k!

 I’d look for a lower mileage & think about a 1.8 with the highest spec, second hand you can get a better spec for not much extra.

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Definitely 2019 cars as well? I asked one of the dealers from the Steve Eagle group and he said he was pretty sure it was 2020 onwards? 

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Worth pointing out that if you get a 2020 you will get a 6 year warranty as the 10 years starts from the cars registration year.

 

Also it has a maximum of 100k miles so you could buy a 1 year old car on 90k miles and only get around 1 years warranty. 
 

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my previous auris was a 2016 and was covered under the 10 year warranty as long as you service it with Toyota each year. 

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2 hours ago, Debator said:

Definitely 2019 cars as well? I asked one of the dealers from the Steve Eagle group and he said he was pretty sure it was 2020 onwards? 

Cars registered after 1 June 2021 carry a three-year manufacturer’s warranty. When those manufacturer’s warranties have expired, the cars automatically qualifies for the Toyota warranty, when it undergoes a qualifying service at a Toyota centre, up until the vehicle is ten years old or reaches the 100,000-mile limit. 

It's 5 years/100k miles warranty before 1st June 2021. https://mag.toyota.co.uk/toyota-warranty-how-it-works/#:~:text=Cars registered after 1 June,reaches the 100%2C000-mile limit.

 

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11 hours ago, TonyHSD said:

Metropolitan police and some other counties are using Corolla TS as patrol cars and all of them are icon 1.8. There are some commercial units too with the same engine. Officers seems happier and more relaxed 😉👮‍♂️

The Corolla Touring Sports the Police use will be non standard spec vehicles & modified for Police requirements.

https://media.toyota.co.uk/toyota-works-with-the-police-to-produce-new-corolla-patrol-car/

https://mag.toyota.co.uk/toyota-corolla-police-car-a-force-for-good/

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Relax Warranty applies to all Toyotas up to 10 years old and 100k miles, doesn't matter when they were first registered. It just means whenever the dealer services your car, you get a 1 year/10k mile warranty.

Dealer serviced my 2019 Corolla and gave me a load of 10 Year Relax Warranty documents and stamps.

Neighbour's 2014 Auris has just finished it's 10 year warranty (and lo-and-behold dealer found all sorts of "issues" that "need" fixing 🙄)

Manufacturer warranty was as said by mojo 5 years/100k and is now 3 years/60k, and doesn't need to be serviced by Toyota as long as it's serviced according to schedule, properly, with proper parts.

And hybrid Battery gets up to 15 year unlimited miles warranty (1 extra year whenever a Hybrid Health Check is performed by Toyota)!

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So best bang for my buck in terms of keeping the warranty will be a 2019 1.8 with 30-40k miles on it. 

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For the extended warranty there are terms and conditions and for the hybrid Battery too. Use of the car, mileage, and age restrictions apply. 

I had my Auris when just turned 5 years old with 42k miles on the clock.
The car was in good shape with only steering column infamous clicks which I decided not to repair and make any claims as I don’t like anyone to work on my car and unless a safety recall I try to avoid garages. 
Because I drive more 35-50k miles a year I took another decision - service myself with oem or highest quality aftermarket parts and lubricants, saving £1000 a year from service, I also stopped doing a hybrid health checks and with the saved money I had a new batteries replaced again by myself on my driveway earlier this year. The car drives very good now and efficiency is better than new.
My next car likely to be another hybrid possibly Corolla or Yaris cross, or Prius, me think diy service will be the way to go again, unless I can’t do it for some very specific reasons like health or place of residency I will buy a Toyota hybrid and do service by myself and not getting worried about warranty or mileage. Like this guy. Look the mileage 

 

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7 hours ago, forkingabout said:

The Corolla Touring Sports the Police use will be non standard spec vehicles & modified for Police requirements.

https://media.toyota.co.uk/toyota-works-with-the-police-to-produce-new-corolla-patrol-car/

https://mag.toyota.co.uk/toyota-corolla-police-car-a-force-for-good/

I suspect most of those modifications involve disabling the ADAS :laugh: 

Imagine one of them trying to do a PIT manoeuvre only for the car to go BEEPBEEPBEEP and slam on the brakes :laugh: 

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I've got a 2.0 ts. But wouldn't be to upset if I changed to 1.8.....main advantage of 2.0 is pulling out of junctions and motorway travel where it not only has a performance advantage but seams more economical too.... Off motorway 1.8 is better on fuel. 

1.8 is definitely a more proven motor... Not fault free but most things are easily addressed... 2.0 on some 2020 cars have had injector issues but it only seams on that year and it is a much more modern engine and only time will tell on long term reliability. 

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Have found a pretty decent 2.0 that's just come up. Bit confused as it's got the apporved used logo, but this isn't actually a Toyota dealership? How does that work with warranty?

I can't post the link as the site keeps saying it's spam but it's at a place called Macklin motors in Hamilton Scotland, 2.0, £18k & 25k miles.

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