Sun/moon roof opening on rav4 phev GR Sport

[Torrox]

I have a question on the sun roof * opening in the rav4 phev gr sport. Yesterday when I slided the switch to open the sun roof, it opened almost all the way but looked like there is a few inches to completely open. I can't remember how far it went last time as I hardly used it. Reading on the net someone says you need to press the switch one more time to get it go further but I tried it and it didn't. So before I take it to the dealer if someone would tell me whether this is as far as it opens and save me a trip to them. Thanks

*= panoramic sun roof.

Edited July 24 by Torrox

[philip42h]

If I press the open button, the sunscreen goes back all the way, and the glass opens about a foot. Pressing the button again (and again) doesn't make it open any further.

Pressing the button to close, closes the glass, leaving the sunscreen in the fully open position - the sunscreen needs to be closed separately.

There is no 'tilt' feature ...

At least, that's how mine behaves! 😉

[Flatcoat]

There is a tilt position feature - at least on my Dynamic Premium roof. I can’t imagine it has changed. 

[Nick72]

2021 R4P.

Moon roof doesn't open more than 28cm.

There's no pressing it twice option on mine. One hold press and it goes back as far as it does in the pic.

[philip42h]

18 minutes ago, Flatcoat said:

There is a tilt position feature - at least on my Dynamic Premium roof. I can’t imagine it has changed. 

Quite so - it just doesn't work the way I expected! Press [up] to tilt up; press [up] again to tilt down.

And, having read the manual again, we can close both the moon roof and sunshade by closing the sunshade! 🙂

[Torrox]

There is a tilt position. Short press it tilts up.

Pic 1 sun roof opened max from top.

Pic 2 from inside fully opened.

Pic 3 fully closed.

I thought that when fully open the top sun roof will line up to the middle bar in pic 2.

[Torrox]

Just measured the max opening distance and it's 28 cm. Thank Philip, Flatcoat and Nick.

[Nick72]

43 minutes ago, Torrox said:

Just measured the max opening distance and it's 28 cm. Thank Philip, Flatcoat and Nick.

Honestly I was a little disappointed when I got the car that the moon roof only opens about a foot. I was hoping it opened at least another 6 inches. Spoiled by past cars where the moon roof opened 2 to 3 feet. 

[Flatcoat]

1 hour ago, Nick72 said:

Honestly I was a little disappointed when I got the car that the moon roof only opens about a foot. I was hoping it opened at least another 6 inches. Spoiled by past cars where the moon roof opened 2 to 3 feet. 

I agree. My 2004 Audi A2 open sky roof had 2 glass sections that opened so the roof was open over the rear seats too. 

[Torrox]

Took the car to the dealer and a service guy wasn't quite sure but he'd look it up then get back to me, he hasn't so far. Unfortunately the dealer hasn't got one that we can compare.

Please could someone who has a  Rav4 phev GR sport with a sun roof try it out then let me know. Many thanks.

[Nick72]

7 hours ago, Torrox said:

Took the car to the dealer and a service guy wasn't quite sure but he'd look it up then get back to me, he hasn't so far. Unfortunately the dealer hasn't got one that we can compare.

Please could someone who has a  Rav4 phev GR sport with a sun roof try it out then let me know. Many thanks.

I think it's exactly the same moon roof so it ain't gonna open beyond c. 28cm. 

I'll be able to confirm in 4 weeks when I swap to the GR Sport PHEV. 

[Torrox]

Thank Nick. If you look at the first pic, at the front some sort of net pop up which is quite neat, but I thought if the sun roof move back another 3-4 inches then it would lay flat, under it there is still some rail for it to travel further back.

[Nick72]

7 hours ago, Torrox said:

Thank Nick. If you look at the first pic, at the front some sort of net pop up which is quite neat, but I thought if the sun roof move back another 3-4 inches then it would lay flat, under it there is still some rail for it to travel further back.

So the front pop up part with the net like structure is just the spoiler. To deflect air over the top of the open roof. Doesn't take much to achieve this from an aerodynamic perspective. Just a small step up from the spoiler.

Not noticed the additional rail travel. That's interesting. But this could simply be it was cheaper to put a longer rail in than a shorter rail and something else. Production decisions can sometimes be counter intuitive.

That said, if you can find a way of getting another few inches of opening that would be great news. I always thought it would open further and actually line up with the middle cross bar on the roof rather than half in and half out spoiling the view for the rear passengers. Never made sense.

 

[Nick72]

On 7/24/2024 at 12:19 PM, Torrox said:

I have a question on the sun roof * opening in the rav4 phev gr sport. Yesterday when I slided the switch to open the sun roof, it opened almost all the way but looked like there is a few inches to completely open. I can't remember how far it went last time as I hardly used it. Reading on the net someone says you need to press the switch one more time to get it go further but I tried it and it didn't. So before I take it to the dealer if someone would tell me whether this is as far as it opens and save me a trip to them. Thanks

*= panoramic sun roof.

Ok I found this but it doesn't work on my new GRS unless I'm doing it wrong as the buttons are different. 

17 minutes in. Second press and it opens fully.

 

 

[Torrox]

Thank Nick! I think I have tried it but I will try again tomorrow.

[Nick72]

9 minutes ago, Torrox said:

Thank Nick! I think I have tried it but I will try again tomorrow.

I opened it to the 8 inch mark and then pressed back again. Tried a single press and a long press. No joy.

But... I did not try pressing the button down, which is used to open tilt the sun roof from its closed position. Going to try that and other combos tomorrow too.

It looks like it can and should go back further and that US video has given all new hope... Unless for some reason they're on a different moon roof. 🤦

 

[Torrox]

I tried several times and ways but no joy. It's p*** that it won't go further.

[Nick72]

14 minutes ago, Torrox said:

I tried several times and ways but no joy. It's p*** that it won't go further.

Yet to try today but that is naff. 

I am wondering now.

Clearly at some point in some markets the moon roof was either different in terms the mechanical design or it was the same but Toyota decided to restrict the opening because there were issues. Perhaps when fully open and driving at speed it led to some mechanical damage

I think the latter is the case because...

It looks like it is meant to go back further as the rails are long enough and the front of the moon roof should line up with the cross member for aesthetic purposes. Plus, an 8 inch opening is very poor.

[Nick72]

24 minutes ago, Torrox said:

I tried several times and ways but no joy. It's p*** that it won't go further.

Apparently it is really a thing in the US...

 

[Nick72]

1 hour ago, Torrox said:

I tried several times and ways but no joy. It's p*** that it won't go further.

Just tried every combo of buttons. Can't get it all the way back. They can in the US. Another annoying second class market situation in the UK.

[Nick72]

It seems Canadian owners are in the same boat as us. Doesn't fully open. Stops at around 8 inches. 2nd press does not work.

Scouring the forums.

It's looking like full opening is either reserved for the US market or they have a different mechanical system.

If the moon roof is less likely to have leaks and is more reliable then I'm reasonably happy.