New Toyota CHR PHEV minor gripes

[forkingabout]

23 minutes ago, Louie said:

Hi Forkingabout  any idea what Toyota were after ?

Current C-HR owners opinions AFAIK 

[CassUK]

3 hours ago, McSlasher said:

Hi all, new(ish) member here. I joined a few weeks back and have been following the comments about the new C-HR. We are due to take delivery of a new GR Sport 2.0 on a 74 plate. This will be the first Toyota, having owned two Volvo XC90s and presently an XC40 but with the children all grown up and owning their own cars, we thought that something smaller and hybrid was the way to go. 
I was encouraged by Louie’s post listing a number of grumbles but still endorsing the car with a score of 9 out of 10, so fingers crossed. 

Got my new GR Sport a couple of weeks ago - love it. Also my first Toyota but my wife has had 3 including her current car. The Safety Pack has 13 features and will take some getting used to and setting it up to my preferences but most default settings are fine. The User Guide and Navigation manuals are online but it could be worth getting hard copies from your dealer, as searching/scrolling through the online version is a pain.

Enjoy the car when it comes 👍

[AndyRC]

It’s interesting how several owners of the new CHR  have changed brands to buy one , maybe Toyota didn’t “totally screw up” with the new CHR and it’s doing what they wanted , attracting new customers to the marque, and retaining ones who wanted something different to the old CHR , accepting that the bold design wouldn’t suit everyone 🤔 

[MC1216]

13 minutes ago, AndyRC said:

It’s interesting how several owners of the new CHR  have changed brands to buy one , maybe Toyota didn’t “totally screw up” with the new CHR and it’s doing what they wanted , attracting new customers to the marque, and retaining ones who wanted something different to the old CHR , accepting that the bold design wouldn’t suit everyone 🤔 

It will be interesting what the sales figures are compared with the old model...i always think that when brokers are offering 8-9k off the list price it isn't either selling well or it's over priced.

It really would probably be the car for me with a few minor external changes(i love the interior)

[AndyRC]

6 minutes ago, MC1216 said:

It will be interesting what the sales figures are compared with the old model...i always think that when brokers are offering 8-9k off the list price it isn't either selling well or it's over priced.

It really would probably be the car for me with a few minor external changes(i love the interior)

I believe the biggest issue was that you couldn’t get a 2.0 version below the £40k threshold and a lot of folk aren’t or can’t afford to pay the extra VED 🤔 and no government is going to increase that threshold as the treasury has to get its money from somewhere 🤷‍♂️

[Louie]

Stuart if you don't enjoy your new acquisition  I will be growing a very long pointy nose and smoke will be  coming out of my ears.

[Louie]

Here are another three  albeit minor gripes which Toyota as a leading car manufacturer have fallen asleep on and appear to be just basic issues bless their little cotton socks. 

1. Why oh why can you not incorporate an emblem on the window opening/closing switches on the drivers door what on earth happened there. I sometimes have to glance quickly to make sure I am not opening the rear windows by accident.

I had a similar problem with my Excel and the fix was to stick small holographic labels to indicate which switches did what. I could use "feelorama" but not a good technique and partially dangerous in my opinion. 

2. The volume control on the steering wheel should have an arrow pointer for its push up or down at the very least very annoying.

3. When the climate control is initiated it is fairly obvious the AC is on yet the AC light switch does not turn which is a bit weird its not a big deal in my humble opinion but its  nevertheless  an omission.

However and this is a big however this car is still my favourite SUV PHEV of choice I  love driving it every day

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 19 by Louie
mistake in wording

[McSlasher]

We have had our new C-HR for just over a week and initial thoughts are positive. I have only driven it once but my wife, who does most of the driving these days, really likes it. 
Our major gripe is the MyToyota app. For some reason it continually reverts to showing that the car is unlocked even though it is locked. Not great if it is parked up while away on holiday. Hopefully that will be sorted before too long. 

[CassUK]

2 hours ago, McSlasher said:

We have had our new C-HR for just over a week and initial thoughts are positive. I have only driven it once but my wife, who does most of the driving these days, really likes it. 
Our major gripe is the MyToyota app. For some reason it continually reverts to showing that the car is unlocked even though it is locked. Not great if it is parked up while away on holiday. Hopefully that will be sorted before too long. 

I’ve noticed it shows the last alert in the Vehicle Status logs - have a look at the most recent one and you will see the date/time it was created, but then it will go into a historical log when you next use the car. You can switch them off in the Notification Settings/Vehicle Alerts part of the app. It would probably be more useful if the last warning simply went into the historical log after viewing it and the warning triangle only appeared with a new alert 🤔

[Dezzer21]

1. Why oh why can you not incorporate an emblem on the window opening/closing switches on the drivers door what on earth happened there. I sometimes have to glance quickly to make sure I am not opening the rear windows by accident.

I had a similar problem with my Excel and the fix was to stick small holographic labels to indicate which switches did what. I could use "feelorama" but not a good technique and partially dangerous in my opinion. 
 

Surely it’s more dangerous to take your eyes off the road even for a few seconds than to feel the switches with your fingers.

[Louie]

Hi Dezzer I have been down this road before an do not understand how a huge entity such as Toyota can get it wrong for the third time. Once, twice but a third time is inexcusable. The window button closing/opening scenario was present in my 2019 GR Sport Excel, in my 2023 Excel and its still here in my CHR Design PHEV just ridiculous.

I don't see why customers have to mess around with sticky labels to distinguish front from rear window closing operation on the driver side door. I have in the past stuck holographic labels on the controls but the driver should not really be glancing in any shape or form at these controls when on the move for obvious reasons. Feelorama only works if you can physically distinguish between the front and rear by using self-adhesive small raised door stickers used to prevent kitchen drawers slamming etc. I am about to try these. See uploaded image.

[forkingabout]

At least the first gen C-HR has the drivers window switch easily found by feel with the lowered touch part - no need to look & you can work out which switch is which window without looking.

[First_Toyota]

On 8/19/2024 at 11:02 AM, MC1216 said:

It will be interesting what the sales figures are compared with the old model...i always think that when brokers are offering 8-9k off the list price it isn't either selling well or it's over priced.

I can only speak for July when I was new car shopping, but the levels of discount I was offered by Toyota for a new CH-R, Volvo for an XC40, VW for a Golf, Seat for an Ateca, KIA, Hyundai, Mazda, Honda…well, they were all competitive and all between 12-20% off list price.

The deciding factor for me wasn’t the deal - although it was keen and the part-ex on my Lexus RX was significantly better than elsewhere, including two brokers who wouldn’t quote and directed me to WBAC or Motorway - the deciding factor was actually the car. I preferred it to the other options I drove - and I drove all of them, and had offers too, but the CH-R was just the car that I thought drove best and felt like a quality option…and bear in mind I’m coming from a 2021 Lexus RX450h!

I hope it does well, but tbh I quite like the idea of a vehicle that is rarer to see on the road…

[Louie]

Problem with driver side window controls solved please see attached pic.

[First_Toyota]

I collected my new CH-R Excel this afternoon, having had a ‘Design’ for a week as a courtesy car while mine was being prepared.

A couple of questions / minor gripes…

The set up of the car was easy, app seemed to link without issue. However, I can’t find details anywhere of how to make the door mirrors ‘dip’ when selecting reverse. I haven’t had a car for 20+ years without this feature, so assume it’s in there somewhere, but the manual doesn’t mention it a far as I can see. Am I missing something or is it really not a feature?

Second question…is it right that the handbook/service book etc. is presented in a cardboard sleeve rather than a plastic/leather/leatherette wallet? Surely not?! Should my dealer have provided something or is the cardboard sleeve what you get with a Toyota?

Thanks in advance. Ed

[Basil-BarryC]

1 hour ago, First_Toyota said:

I collected my new CH-R Excel this afternoon, having had a ‘Design’ for a week as a courtesy car while mine was being prepared.

A couple of questions / minor gripes…

The set up of the car was easy, app seemed to link without issue. However, I can’t find details anywhere of how to make the door mirrors ‘dip’ when selecting reverse. I haven’t had a car for 20+ years without this feature, so assume it’s in there somewhere, but the manual doesn’t mention it a far as I can see. Am I missing something or is it really not a feature?

Second question…is it right that the handbook/service book etc. is presented in a cardboard sleeve rather than a plastic/leather/leatherette wallet? Surely not?! Should my dealer have provided something or is the cardboard sleeve what you get with a Toyota?

Thanks in advance. Ed

On my ‘23 Corolla it’s not possible to dip the passenger wing mirror when selecting reverse, also yes you only get the “underwhelming “ card sleeve with a stripped down manual. Much better to download the full version from the Toyota website if needed 

[Mark_P]

1 hour ago, First_Toyota said:

 

The set up of the car was easy, app seemed to link without issue. However, I can’t find details anywhere of how to make the door mirrors ‘dip’ when selecting reverse. I haven’t had a car for 20+ years without this feature, so assume it’s in there somewhere, but the manual doesn’t mention it a far as I can see. Am I missing something or is it really not a feature?

There is nothing in the manual about making the mirrors dip when selecting reverse, is it supposed to be a feature?

Even the customisation part of the manual only mentions Automatic Mirror Folding and extending operation.  Maybe it's something for Carista to add to their list of requests with their ODB dongle.

[First_Toyota]

22 minutes ago, Mark_P said:

There is nothing in the manual about making the mirrors dip when selecting reverse, is it supposed to be a feature?

I’m assuming it may not be a feature, but it’s an odd omission given previous VW-Honda-Lexus have all had it, as does my 2004 MINI!

As I said, I haven’t had a car without this feature for at least twenty years…and my CH-R has an electric drivers seat adjustment too.

I fully accept this is a ‘first world’ problem, it just seems very strange that a brand new car with such advanced tech wouldn’t have something so basic and useful!

[philip42h]

23 minutes ago, First_Toyota said:

I’m assuming it may not be a feature, but it’s an odd omission given previous VW-Honda-Lexus have all had it, as does my 2004 MINI!

As I said, I haven’t had a car without this feature for at least twenty years…and my CH-R has an electric drivers seat adjustment too.

I fully accept this is a ‘first world’ problem, it just seems very strange that a brand new car with such advanced tech wouldn’t have something so basic and useful!

Doesn't your Excel come with PVM? (Panoramic View Monitor aka 360 degree camera). Why would anyone want silly little dipping mirrors when they've got a way better feature? 😉

😄

[Cyker]

It'd be a nice feature but not something common on Toyotas. I think there are a few that do it, but you have to set the mirrors while reverse is selected and leave the mirror selector set and not in neutral for it to work.

No Toyota I've owned has ever had it though.

The 360 degree camera should work as an alternative though - I do wish my Yaris had that!!

[dannyboy413]

I know my car was built to specifications ordered by Toyota Ireland, which differ from the UK market, (and other markets). My car is the 'Sol' which is the top of the range specification wise in Ireland. It does not have the Panoramic View Monitor and neither does it have mirrors that dip when reverse is selected, although I have never had them in any car I have driven in the last 50+ years. However I am extremely pleased with the car and love just about everything about it and think it is better than the Yaris Cross - my previous car - and the Corolla saloon I had before that. There seems to be a few people complaining about things wrong with the cars but as has been pointed out previously, the C-HR is a 'Marmite' car. As the saying goes, "You can please some of the people all of the time .......".

Okay, I admit it, there is one thing that bugs me. I like driving with the window open a half inch, (I have wind deflectors fitted). I sometimes get a message asking if I want the windows closing, giving me a 'Yes' or 'No' alternative. Irrespective of whether I select 'No' or just ignore the message, the message will disappear but can come back less than a minute later, for a good number of times. Other occasions, I do not get the message at all! As Spock would say, "illogical". 😊

[First_Toyota]

11 hours ago, philip42h said:

Doesn't your Excel come with PVM? (Panoramic View Monitor aka 360 degree camera). Why would anyone want silly little dipping mirrors when they've got a way better feature? 😉

😄

Well, yes…good point…but I’m a bit old school with these things, and having had the dipping mirrors for so many years on so many cars I’m used to that simple solution!

I’m sure I’ll get used to the 360 camera view to do the same thing. My big question is whether I’ll ever trust the ‘self park’ function. Currently it’s a ‘no’ from me until I can find time to play in an empty car park…

[forkingabout]

16 hours ago, Cyker said:

The 360 degree camera should work as an alternative though - I do wish my Yaris had that!!

It's an excellent useful feature, the missus Yaris Cross Excel has it 👍