2024 corolla

[Ian saunders]

Looking at new corrolla but was wondering if the safety systems are all able to be turned off or diminished to a minimum, if so how meny menus and buttons need to be pressed to achieve this? I realise they will reactivate. 

Thanks in advance 

[FROSTYBALLS]

Not just the Corolla that has these increased safety systems, all new cars do ...... 

The Intelligent Speed Assistance (which became mandatory on new cars from July) can't be permanently disabled for example.

[Paul john]

4 minutes ago, Ian saunders said:

Looking at new corrolla but was wondering if the safety systems are all able to be turned off or diminished to a minimum, if so how meny menus and buttons need to be pressed to achieve this? I realise they will reactivate. 

Thanks in advance 

Im saying 4 pushes from my experience. 
“And the Monkey pushes the big red button <lost in space quote>”

[Ian saunders]

Cheers Paul John, so is that the speed sign and lane guide features? 

[Paul john]

8 minutes ago, Ian saunders said:

Cheers Paul John, so is that the speed sign and lane guide features? 

Lane guide is on steering wheel rsa can be turned off in menu

[sportse]

You can leave the settings icon on the main slot on the digital display, that makes it easier to call up the menu to disable the incorrect speed limit warning/etc. 

you do lose one of the 3 information slots on the dash, but there are options to get most of the information you’d want up in the remaining spaces. 
 

you can also have multiple dash layouts and swipe between them. 
 

apart from the big with tyre pressure readings. That disappears even though you have chosen it. 

[Niky]

There is one proper safety feature I believe must be made mandatory to all vehicles, yet it is not and I don't understand why!!!! Blind spot monitoring sensor. 

Why aren't they adding the proper stuff that can make a real difference, but adding stuff that make us lazy and in some cases even dangerous drivers - my opinion 

 

[TonyHSD]

2023 was the beginning of the end of private car ownership and driving. 
First were the electric cars, then the screens, then the new safety system, . 
Self driving cars and all that does only one thing - increases the prices of used vehicles made up to 2022. 
No safety , no better overall driving experience, No reduced emissions , no one positive thing about it. All that as idea are great, as execution totally wrong including screens, bev, safety futures and self driving. 
But you can tell that those who are responsible for the roads and vehicles simply has no clue about them or about driving. 

[Red_Corolla]

On 8/17/2024 at 8:06 AM, Niky said:

There is one proper safety feature I believe must be made mandatory to all vehicles, yet it is not and I don't understand why!!!! Blind spot monitoring sensor. 

Why aren't they adding the proper stuff that can make a real difference, but adding stuff that make us lazy and in some cases even dangerous drivers - my opinion 

 

Blind spot monitoring only makes a real difference to drivers who fail to check over their shoulder. It's a great feature, but I'm afraid it falls into that same category you're complaining about i.e.  things that help us get away with paying less care & attention than we should. Either a shoulder check or a wide-angle mirror (remember those?) is an absolute must; we shouldn't be trusting lives to having a warning light and assuming that it always works.

[Niky]

1 hour ago, Red_Corolla said:

Blind spot monitoring only makes a real difference to drivers who fail to check over their shoulder. It's a great feature, but I'm afraid it falls into that same category you're complaining about i.e.  things that help us get away with paying less care & attention than we should. Either a shoulder check or a wide-angle mirror (remember those?) is an absolute must; we shouldn't be trusting lives to having a warning light and assuming that it always works.

I agree with you, everyone must check with a quick look over his shoulder and not rely solely on safety features, but  BSM(at least for me) is not comparable with a"mandatory" lane keeping assistant for example. 

I am sometimes driving our vans at work and looking over the shoulder doesn't work there. Always doing it with my car, yet once I failed to see a small car being right next to me and almost hit it - and I did look over my shoulder first. BSM must be one of the first safety features to be installed on all vehicles

Our vans do have double split rear view mirrors, but Nissan haven't made them very smart, like Mercedes for example, and the small ones are not adjustable and can't be set wide to cover the blind spot, so a BSM would be a fantastic tool, especially since we are using the vans mainly in Central London. I am super scared of hitting a cyclists.... One of my colleagues did hit a cyclists once(or the cyclists hit our van) who(the cyclists) tried to overtake the van from the right side going forward while my colleague was already turning right. Indicator was used, he looked at the rear view mirror, but failed to see anyone next to him. Probably the cyclists was too fast....but guess who was to blame at the end? Always the driver in the vehicle of course 

I have installed extra tiny mirrors, but being small 3rd mirrors they do sometimes make everything even more confusing.  

 

Getting a driving licence must be much more difficult, much more expensive, with many more hours practice on the road, much more difficult exams, much tougher driver instructors, 0 errors allowed on any of the tests, etc.....This should be the first place to start with the "great" new safety ideas and features!!!But......

[Cyker]

I agree, BSM is become more and more important in modern vehicles.

Over the shoulder checks aren't worth a thing in my Yaris as all I see is B-pillar; I'm fairly certain the BSM has saved the lives of a good few oblivious cyclists who only avoided being spaghettied between the side of my car and kerb-side railings or being catapulted over an off-side island kerb because I noticed the BSM light up and hesitated.

Too many cyclists just don't think about how traffic moves and changes, and won't brook any impediment to their progress to slow down in risky zones. It doesn't help when most of them are un-lit, don't wear high-vis and are easy to loose in a sea of DRLs. It's even worse now with e-bikes which are as fast as motorbikes but without the licensing, training or culpability.

 

[forkingabout]

5 minutes ago, Cyker said:

I agree, BSM is become more and more important in modern vehicles.

I find BSM really useful & wouldn't buy another car without it.

The RCTA function is also useful, even detects things approaching before the back of the car clears the garage doorway while backing out. 

[Cyker]

I'm in two minds about the RCTA as it's a bit overzealous, and a few times in a busy car park I've been trapped half-out of a bay trying to reverse as it spotted a pigeon or something and slammed the brakes on   

Now I almost always reverse into a bay to try and avoid this!

[Red_Corolla]

45 minutes ago, Cyker said:

I'm in two minds about the RCTA as it's a bit overzealous, and a few times in a busy car park I've been trapped half-out of a bay trying to reverse as it spotted a pigeon or something and slammed the brakes on   

Now I almost always reverse into a bay to try and avoid this!

Now there is a safety feature that actually encourages better driving habits! 😄

Always better in than out when it comes to reversing (the opposite of flatulence). 😂

About doing blind-spot checks without a good view over the shoulder (e.g. in a van.....or a Yaris): a simple lean forward to widen the viewing angle of the mirror does the same trick. There's always a way to get eyes on the space you're about to occupy, rather than have 'blind' faith in the gadgets. 👍. I treat all safety systems the same way, even the long-established ones like ABS, TCS etc.; they're all brilliant things to have that should be treated strictly as a safety net and never relied upon except in the event of a mistake.

[Cyker]

Yeah I have to 'pigeon-neck' about a lot in the Mk4 to look around all the blind spots! It can't be doing my neck and back any good I tell you that much

It's very ironic than in chasing higher EuroNCAP ratings, they actually make cars less safe by reducing their visibility. Whenever I'm in an older car, I always marvel at how you can see danger coming a mile off because the all-round visibility is so good.

I don't even notice people tailgating me half the time in the Mk4 because I can barely see behind me without pigeoning  

I will say sometimes it's just not practical to reverse in (e.g. if you're going to buy a new fridge or washing machine  , or even just doing a lot of shopping!), but I agree it's definitely a lot easier to reverse in and drive out than drive in and reverse out, even without the RCTA trying to trap you  

[Dylanfan]

I’ve always set the door mirrors “wide” to cover most of the blind spot since having wing mirrors; remember those.
I’d had blind spot monitoring on my previous car and when I picked up my Corolla in 2019 and it didn’t have it, I was a bit pi**ed off. Both it and wireless charging were listed in the brochure but not available in the UK. Grrrrr

 

[Red_Corolla]

3 hours ago, Dylanfan said:

I’ve always set the door mirrors “wide” to cover most of the blind spot since having wing mirrors; remember those.
I’d had blind spot monitoring on my previous car and when I picked up my Corolla in 2019 and it didn’t have it, I was a bit pi**ed off. Both it and wireless charging were listed in the brochure but not available in the UK. Grrrrr

 

For me, it was the heated steering wheel. I absolutely love steering wheel heating - greatest comfort innovation for the automobile since the electric starter, IMO. To rub salt into the wound, they decided to start including it on UK models after the facelift. 😡

[Corolly Poly]

54 minutes ago, Red_Corolla said:

For me, it was the heated steering wheel. I absolutely love steering wheel heating - greatest comfort innovation for the automobile since the electric starter, IMO. To rub salt into the wound, they decided to start including it on UK models after the facelift. 😡

My MY 24 Excel does not have a heated steering wheel 

[Red_Corolla]

9 hours ago, Corolly Poly said:

My MY 24 Excel does not have a heated steering wheel 

I'm sure someone on here told me they had it, but I guess I was misinformed. Available in other markets, I believe, which is frustrating.

[sportse]

I seem to remember someone said the 24 icons have a heated steering wheel. 
 

it’s not on the 23 facelift. 

[TrackLink]

Suzuki Swace Motion spec includes a heated steering wheel but not any of the current Corolla specs, unfortunately, as far as I’m aware.

[Corolly Poly]

9 hours ago, Red_Corolla said:

I'm sure someone on here told me they had it, but I guess I was misinformed. Available in other markets, I believe, which is frustrating.

someone with a recent UK Corolla has got one but can't remember the exact year and spec.