Yaris on Motorway

[Ralph H]

30 minutes ago, ninanina said:

Thanks for all the replies 

Am I correct in thinking that the 21/22 Yaris comes with a spare wheel as standard?

Yes they have a space saver spare wheel as standard, unless it’s got a panoramic roof which for some reason don’t have a spare just a can of gunk. 

[Cyker]

On 8/22/2024 at 8:50 AM, hind said:

Nice! We did 3500 km trip through the northern Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and France in May and got the avg of 54 mpg. The car was fully loaded (3+dog and a luggage for 10 days) and despite very low consumption while driving local roads, the motorway parts corrected it significantly 😉 

Phew for a moment I read that as 3 dogs and luggage   

 

On 8/22/2024 at 12:41 PM, TonyHSD said:

Any car is fine on the motorway for occasional drives, holidays etc.
The question is how often and for how long? 
Aygo , Yaris- these are typical city cars and as such they aren’t the first choice to anyone planing to drive exclusively on motorways and covering long miles every day. If this is the question a Corolla is better car or Camry , Lexus IS, ES , UX. 

The new Yaris would be a very good motorway cruiser as it's got so much power ready to go, the only problem is the seats are not great for being in for long periods! (My poor spine...!)

 

41 minutes ago, ninanina said:

Thanks for all the replies 

Am I correct in thinking that the 21/22 Yaris comes with a spare wheel as standard?

Mine did! As Ralph says only the panoramic roof ones didn't, probably because of weight (And thus CO2 rating) reasons.

I do feel Toyota are missing a trick as they should just offer the spare wheel as a dealer-fit option so it doesn't come under homologation at all, and so they don't get penalized for doing a good thing and bucking the trend of most manufacturers.

 

[Ralph H]

2 minutes ago, Cyker said:

The new Yaris would be a very good motorway cruiser as it's got so much power ready to go, the only problem is the seats are not great for being in for long periods! (My poor spine...!)

You should try the new premier edition it’s got electric adjustable lumbar support 😉

[BlueMike1972]

5 minutes ago, Ralph H said:

You should try the new premier edition it’s got electric adjustable lumbar support 😉

I was playing with that yesterday in my Excel as I did my first longer run, up the A1. Decided that I preferred the support tucked away, and not kicking me in the kidneys!

As for the run itself- sweet, sweet motor. Love it.

 

[Cyker]

Gaaah stop tempting me!   

Look, you and CPN take good care of yours' and I'll trade up in a few years' time  

Although... I wonder what the part number for the seat in the Premiere is...   

[ninanina]

Just wondered Cyker if you do much motorway work in yours?  I know you use your car a lot 

[Cyker]

I do a fair bit; The car sees all kinds of roads fairly regularly, probably split fairly evenly between urban, A/B roads and motorway.

Motorway by far the least comfortable because I barely move; With urban and A/B-roads all the turns shift me around in the seat enough to stop any pressure points building up but not so much on the motorway. Also the monotony and constant road works make my brain slowly shut down  (Thank smeg for the radar cruise control and autosteer!  ).

[ninanina]

3 minutes ago, Cyker said:

I do a fair bit; The car sees all kinds of roads fairly regularly, probably split fairly evenly between urban, A/B roads and motorway.

Motorway by far the least comfortable because I barely move; With urban and A/B-roads all the turns shift me around in the seat enough to stop any pressure points building up but not so much on the motorway. Also the monotony and constant road works make my brain slowly shut down  (Thank smeg for the radar cruise control and autosteer!  ).

Motorways also bore me 🙁

But does your Yaris handle them ok?

[Cyker]

Yeah, easily; Much better than my petrol Mk2 Yaris and about as good as my Mk1 diesel as long as I'm not carrying a full load at high speed for extended periods.

My only gripe is if I'm on the motorway for long, my back gets a bit achey (Which is a big improvement - Before I got a lumbar cushion for it, I was practically crippled if I drove more than an hour in it   )

 

But power-wise it's great - I tend to cruise just under 60mph, but it's got loads of punch so if I get bored and have to overtake someone I just do it without thinking too much about it.

In the Petrol Mk2 I'd have to downshift and take a bit of a run up, but the Mk4 hybrid picks up even faster than the Mk1 diesel did.

And the cruise control and auto-steer make those long boring motorway runs a lot nicer!!

 

[trashman1965]

My other half really likes the lumbar support in her premiere. She has sciatica issues and uses it a lot as it really helps.

[Cyker]

Oh one other thing I forgot to add, the Mk4 is *MUCH* more stable than the previous Yarisusesises on the motorway in crosswinds - It was mildly terrifying going up the M1 in my Mk1 and Mk2 when there were very strong cross-winds - It was sometimes hard to tell if I'd brought my car or accidentally gotten into a sailboat  

The Mk4 is super super planted by comparison.

[TonyHSD]

Small cars aren’t any good for long motorway trips and often because of the short wheel base.
The longer the wheel base is the softer and smoother is the ride of the car. 
This is very obvious when someone with Corolla hatchback try the estate version afterwards and can notice the difference, every inch matters. 
For the seats , if you lower the seat base slightly more than usual the comfort improves my much .
That’s my tips for motorway drives and for longer stay in the car, any car big or small 👌  

[Sandisk13]

This is my first post so hello to all of you 🙂 

I have a weird version of Yaris. It's a petrol one with an Automatic Gearbox (dCVT with launching gear) 125HP. In the motorway, it's super responsive. I can manage 180km/h without any hassle. The only downside is fuel consumption around 12l/100km and noise. 

[TonyHSD]

4 hours ago, Sandisk13 said:

This is my first post so hello to all of you 🙂 

I have a weird version of Yaris. It's a petrol one with an Automatic Gearbox (dCVT with launching gear) 125HP. In the motorway, it's super responsive. I can manage 180km/h without any hassle. The only downside is fuel consumption around 12l/100km and noise. 

Hi Lukas, 

12ltr /100 km 23mpg is unbelievable high fuel consumption?! 
That’s hard to believe. I had these numbers myself in Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4 petrol auto 10-12 years ago, but then there were different cars. 
Have you correctly calculated by measure the fuel in the tank and divide by the km traveled ? 
180km/h it’s not the speed you can travel with Yaris on motorways. This can be reach out speeds but definitely not a cruising speed. And if you are constantly driving like that then 12/100 might not be that surprising numbers. 
Good you don’t have a hybrid as you simply gonna hate it.
Hybrids will produce be drinking less , something like 6/100 or 7-8/100 in your type of driving, but it will be not pleasant experience at all. 
Perhaps a bmw , Mercedes or Audi with 2.8 and above engine will be more suited and will deliver it only  better performance, but also better efficiency. 

[hind]

43 minutes ago, TonyHSD said:

I had these numbers myself in Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4 petrol auto 10-12 years ago

...while driving 180 km/h? 😉 12l/100km actually seems pretty low for that speed.

 

[Sandisk13]

53 minutes ago, TonyHSD said:

Hi Lukas, 

12ltr /100 km 23mpg is unbelievable high fuel consumption?! 
That’s hard to believe. I had these numbers myself in Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4 petrol auto 10-12 years ago, but then there were different cars. 
Have you correctly calculated by measure the fuel in the tank and divide by the km traveled ? 
180km/h it’s not the speed you can travel with Yaris on motorways. This can be reach out speeds but definitely not a cruising speed. And if you are constantly driving like that then 12/100 might not be that surprising numbers. 
Good you don’t have a hybrid as you simply gonna hate it.
Hybrids will produce be drinking less , something like 6/100 or 7-8/100 in your type of driving, but it will be not pleasant experience at all. 
Perhaps a bmw , Mercedes or Audi with 2.8 and above engine will be more suited and will deliver it only  better performance, but also better efficiency. 

Hey, yeah i was resetting the fuel consumption counter before i drove to check the average from a trip.  I often travel from Poland to Germany so i can test the higher speeds. 180km/h was a GPS speed. On the Yaris speedometer, it was 188-187. I often drive 160 as cruising speed and then it's around 8L/100km. But around 180 it skyrockets but ride feeling it's still fine and perfectly stable 😜
BTW.
I wanted to go even faster because i felt like a car could do it, but there is some kind of limiter and i felt like the engine was cut off after i hit 187 on the speedometer. 

Maybe you are right and i need another type of car 😄 But i was thinking about soundproofing Yaris to get rid of the noise and then it should be perfect.
Edit. 
When I was choosing a car I was also testing hybrid. But the hybrid speed increase after 120 km/h was a lot worse compared to petrol. I felt like the electric engine was not even working at that speed. That why i choose petrol. 

[Mojo1010]

Haha Yaris is the wrong car for you, a 2.0 TDI is more suited. 

[hind]

39 minutes ago, Mojo1010 said:

Yaris is the wrong car for you

Absolutely not, just different Yaris is needed 😄 

[ColinB]

10 minutes ago, hind said:

Absolutely not, just different Yaris is needed 😄 

One of those nice little 3 door Toyota GR Yaris, the awd one 😉

[Sandisk13]

Hyh,
Guys, honestly it's my first car. I got my driving license in my mid-30s (super late) and i was not feeling comfortable with a big car, that's why I chose yaris 😄 But GR Yaris is interesting, maybe it will be a step for me to get something that's crazy fast and small 😄

[Mooly]

21 hours ago, TonyHSD said:

Small cars aren’t any good for long motorway trips and often because of the short wheel base.
The longer the wheel base is the softer and smoother is the ride of the car. 

Yes and Yes... but... and there are serious questions. 

The Yaris is a 'small car' by todays standards but not by those of years ago. The Yaris is give or take as long as a MK3 Escort and actually has a longer wheelbase of 255cm vs 240cm for the Escort.

Which would be the quietest and most comfortable on a motorway? Yaris or a top spec Escort.

According to the web the Yaris has a longer wheelbase than the Carina II (255cm vs 252cm).

Would a Yaris compare to a 1.6GL Carina 4dr for comfort on the motorway. I had a 1990 Carina II 4dr and it was fantastic for comfort and refinement as I recall.

The Yaris wheelbase is only 7cm less than the first gen Audi A4 which despite all its build quality and reliability faults was a wonderful long distance tourer when it came to comfort and refinement.

Can anyone honestly say the Yaris comes close to any of these examples for refinement? It is a serious questioin as I haven't been in a MK4 Yaris... maybe I should. 

 

 

 

 

[Cyker]

Depends what you mean by refinement, but I will say the Mk4 is the noisiest Yaris of all the models I've owned. It's great to drive but the road noise is very high - It has less sound-proofing than the Mk1!!   

Quietest are probably the Mk2 or Mk3.

It's definitely nowhere near the same league as, say, a Mondeo or Passat!

[TonyHSD]

Honestly for these high speeds Toyota does not offer anything suitable imo.  
Perhaps a bmw 3 or 5 series diesel or Mercedes c or e class diesel 9g tronic auto. Hybrids aren’t good at all at high speeds , high load drives.  
Only some available in the American market that has totally different systems called hybrid max. Best car for high speeds long distance cruising are diesel powered 2.5 and above, preferably 5 or 6 cylinder engines. They have low rpm, high torque and can propel the car at high speed while operating at low rpm, low fuel consumption, low noise and low wear on the engine. 👍
 

[Cyker]

Nowadays, maybe, although I reckon the RAV4 would be quite a good motorway cruiser. In the past though, the Avensis and Mk9 Corolla diesels were fantastic motorway cruisers - Whack 'em in top gear and practically idle the whole way in deceptively comfortable seats  

Their weight and softer suspension definitely helped too, vs the Yaris being quite light and having harder suspension tends to thump over bumps unless you're really hauling donkey, whereas the Avensis and Corolla practically soaked them up and almost any speed.

 

[Mooly]

13 hours ago, Cyker said:

It's great to drive but the road noise is very high

The high road noise would be an instant turn off I'm afraid but I know I would love the 'squirtability' of driving one. Lack of refinement would win out though meaning no deal for me unfortunately.

13 hours ago, TonyHSD said:

Honestly for these high speeds Toyota does not offer anything suitable imo.  

This is what is so frustrating to me. You would think in the last 3 or 4 decades that design improvements would give us at least similar refinement to what we had all those years ago but it seems not to be so.

Years ago (2002) I loan of a Peugeot 206??? (due to more Audi woes) and was really impressed at the refinement and ride quality. I think it was a 1.4L.

We had a 1.6GL Sierra at work and that was great on the motorway. Big car in its day but a wheelbase only 6cm more than a MK4 Yaris.

To my way of thinking and especially given 30 to 40 years design improvements a car the size of a Yaris should in every way be the equal of these old timers... but it seems they are not sadly.