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I would like to know from the members,which safety features, you like off and on.

Also you reasons

I would like the car not to control the steering

 

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Lane keeping went off on day 1, and luckily is one of the few things that has it's own button and which STAYS off. Don't want it, don't trust it.

RSA warning beeps go off every time I switch the car on. If I happen to creep up and do 32mph indicated, that is 30mph actual (I've tested it) but the car will bong incessantly anyway- balls to that! I choose to be the master of my own destiny with that one, and live blissfully bong-free.

The rest I live with, and many of the features I think are good- blind spot mirror, rear crossing alert.

 

 

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I just leave them all on, it doesn’t bother me at all if the car wants to bong at me i just ignore it. I’d rather not waste my life getting irate at something that eventually everyone will have to get used to. 

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Like wise, I keep them all on

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There are "safety" features I don't like but I think the time has come to have them permanently enabled, after all seatbelts, ABS, TPMS, are things we've got used to    

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4 hours ago, Brooke bond said:

I would like to know from the members, which safety features, you like off and on.

Also you reasons

I leave RSA on but always change the alert to "Visual only" whenever I start the car. It's become a natural part of my start-up procedure now.

4 hours ago, Brooke bond said:

I would like the car not to control the steering

It does not "control" the steering. The clue is in the "A" of LTA which stands for "assist" and it is not hard to override it with your own input so I just leave it on. If I was driving in snow or ice rutted roads, I would probably turn it off completely for that drive.

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I leave them all on, I’ve seen how AI is progressing, when the robots take over I want them to look favourably on me…!

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Lane keeping off, speed alerts off. Brake hold on, cruise control on. Thankfully on my '19 Corolla the first two default to off and I can leave the CC until I need it.

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2 hours ago, Tommy X said:

There are "safety" features I don't like but I think the time has come to have them permanently enabled, after all seatbelts, ABS, TPMS, are things we've got used to    

The other features you mention are not a distraction. Having something go bong is (especially when it can't be trusted to be right) ditto for lane assist which is frankly dangerous at times.

Additional passive safety systems are fine but those that interfere with the driving process are not. Not until/unless they've been perfected.

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2 hours ago, CPN said:

I leave RSA on but always change the alert to "Visual only" whenever I start the car. It's become a natural part of my start-up procedure now.

It does not "control" the steering. The clue is in the "A" of LTA which stands for "assist" and it is not hard to override it with your own input so I just leave it on. If I was driving in snow or ice rutted roads, I would probably turn it off completely for that drive.

Tell that to the elderly gentleman who was turning into his drive when the car veered into a parked car, don't know the out come, but his car went back to Toyota to see what the problem was, a Toyota salesman told me that when showing me how to turn it off.

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I’ve disabled PDA (proactive driving assist) which includes things like braking and steering assist, and PKSB (parking support brake) which slams the brakes on when you get close to an object when reversing (overkill if you’ve got parking sensors).

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If I could only disable the waf…wifey automated comments..

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5 hours ago, CPN said:

It does not "control" the steering. The clue is in the "A" of LTA which stands for "assist" and it is not hard to override it with your own input so I just leave it on.

There seems to be a bit of confusion here; a couple of quotes from the manual for my Corolla:

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LTA (Lane Tracing Assist)

When driving on a road with clear lane lines with the dynamic radar cruise control operating, lane lines and preceding and surrounding vehicles are detected using the front camera and radar sensor, and the steering wheel is operated to maintain the vehicle’s lane position.

So yes, it does control the steering, but it's only active when you have the cruise control on.

But then there's also LDA:

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LDA (Lane Departure Alert)

Basic functions

The LDA system warns the driver if the vehicle may deviate from the
current lane or course, and also can slightly operate the steering wheel to help avoid deviation from the lane or course.

Lane departure alert function

When the system determines thatthe vehicle might depart from its lane or course, a warning is displayed on a display, and either a warning buzzer will sound or the steering wheel will vibrate to alert the driver.

Lane departure prevention function

If the system determines that the vehicle is likely to depart from its lane or course, it provides assistance through steering wheel operations to help avoid deviation from the lane or course.

So LDA, which is activated every time you start the car on MY24, can also operate the steering thanks to the lane departure prevention function.

LDA is the one I really don't like and turn off every time I start the car: I drive regularly in the Yorkshire Dales and the system just can't cope with narrow and/or badly marked roads so, on average once or twice every journey, it'll do something potentially dangerous like trying to steer the car off the edge of the road or into the oncoming traffic. Yes, you can override it by either holding the steering wheel tightly (which gets tiring after a while) or immediately correcting it when it tugs at the wheel, but it makes driving unnecessarily stressful because it's so unpredictable.

Other things that get turned off:

RSA gets set to visual only because it's seriously inaccurate and annoying.

PDA (Proactive Driving Assist) got turned off (and, fortunately, stays off) after the day it almost stopped the car as I went past a parked van with a good 3 feet of space on either side.

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I never bother to turn things off, I think this stems from my previous cars of,years ago, having vast amounts of blanked out switches that only the top of the range models had, now my cars have every conceivable extra ( ok not everything) so if it’s fitted it has to work, and is used if and when required..

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I leave everything on apart from the LDA / LTA, the speed limit bongs stop after three and are a reminder to check my speed - although it is often confused by picking up limits on side roads e. g. 20mph when in a 30mph zone. I don't like the feel of the steering wheel trying to tug itself if a get too close to a white line, maybe OK on a motorway, but a pain on the country roads I'm more likely to drive on. At least I can turn it off easily from the steering wheel. I use the "normal" cruise control all the time, but only use the radar version on a motorway when crawling along in traffic where it works well. 

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I wish to thanks everyone that replied, it was very interesting to read your replies

Which program do I need on to enable the car the one,two or three distances from the car Infront before it can brake automaticall without any lane control.

I think that's the only one I personally require, my wife is a nerveious driver.

 

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I think it's enabled anyway (once adaptive cruise control is selected). You adjust its distance using the striped button on the RHS of the steering wheel.

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There are a couple I think, in my opinion, are dangerous.

The lane detection where it has tried to "encourage me" to pull back into my lane while overtaking a parked car.

I have managed easily, since December 1980, when I passed my test to know when to pull in. The other one, the wonderful collision detection, it has done an emergency stop on our own drive, hardly in control of the vehicle at all times. But when electronics go wrong, as they do, who is to blame.

There is a lot to like but in my opinion, too much AI, and it is just that, Artificial, thinking it knows better.

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On 11/17/2024 at 9:58 AM, Ralph H said:

I just leave them all on, it doesn’t bother me at all if the car wants to bong at me i just ignore it. I’d rather not waste my life getting irate at something that eventually everyone will have to get used to. 

nope turn them all off and if you think you need any of them turn them on one at a time.

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On 11/17/2024 at 9:00 AM, Brooke bond said:

I would like to know from the members,which safety features, you like off and on.

Also you reasons

I would like the car not to control the steering

 

Thanks in advance

ABS and speed limit visual only on my 2020 Yaris, no need for anymore bells and whistles that come as standard now on newer cars and am in no rush to have them either.

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Thanks to all those who gave replies

 

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