Air Flow Meter - Induction Kit Question

[izod]

Bought my first MR2 NA a month ago and decided to fit my first performace mod... looking around I decided to go for a purchase of an air induction kit. I purchased the following http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...7933138526&rd=1

Installed without problem, however I encountered the following problems.

No where for the air temp sensor to go.. no problem, I am going to drill a hole.

However I think the next problem is a little more serious...

I have fitted the induction tube directley to the engine, and have now found out that i have removed the air flow meter!!

Performace seems better, however i am a little concerned with my fuel consumption!

Can anyone tell me what consequences of removing the air flow meter are and how to connect this up if i reinstall the air flow meter.

Also - I have noticed that the car does take some time to warm up with the temp gauge usually at about 1/3 - is this normal? - when on a dual carrige way (60MPH... traffic!!!) this will drop back down to base level again

[dawolf]

Seems a bit expensive, you can pick up identical N/A induction kits (with air flow meter adaptor) for £20 on e-bay.

Wouldn't think any damage could occur from removing the air flow meter but I guess it could be causing the higher fuel consumption. Not sure why your temp gauge doesn't go above 1/3, mine usually sticks at the halfway mark once warmed up.

[midmotorsteve]

normally aspirated don't have air flow meters well the 3sge doesn't heres my old one

[ToyotaTosh]

n/a do have AFM as i have had a similar problem, i bought the kit with the adapter but now need tubing and somewhere or something to mount the AFM to

[BLOODUK]

midmotorsteve Do you still have the plastic underneath the engine grill? or did you remove that

[jdbecks]

i got a rev4 n/a it has an afm...i got a k&n and the tube has a built in socket/hole thing for it to go into

[midmotorsteve]

i got a rev4 n/a it has an afm...i got a k&n and the tube has a built in socket/hole thing for it to go into

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normally aspirated cars don't have afm's

this is an afm as found on rev1 & 2 turbos

this is an air temp sensor as found on normally aspirated cars

this is both as i dropped a turbo lump in my car that uses an afm but doesn't use the old air temp sensor so it hangs free :)

[midmotorsteve]

midmotorsteve Do you still have the plastic underneath the engine grill? or did you remove that 

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Its a normally aspirated lid, since then i've modified it furthur as before the shroud channelled rain water directly on to the alternator, i decided a lesser sprinkling of water over the engine would be less of a problem and it would allow it to cool better, didn't want a turbo lid as i enjoy wasting boxsters :D let them believe they have just been done by a 12 year old 2 liter normally aspirated :)

I left the one bit covered as that keeps water off the dizzy.

[BLOODUK]

Nice with pics too, Thanks man !

[ToyotaTosh]

normally aspirated do have airflow meters!!!!! cos mine has !!!!!

mine is a 3FSE on a 1992 K-Plate

[midmotorsteve]

normally aspirated do have airflow meters!!!!! cos mine has !!!!!

mine is a 3FSE on a 1992 K-Plate

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oh they have them but they are super rare super slow cars 112bhp arn't they? carina e engine.

In my very first post i said 3sge engine cars don't have them, you never mentioned any fe business :D

[Jimlad]

normally aspirated do have airflow meters!!!!! cos mine has !!!!!

mine is a 3FSE on a 1992 K-Plate

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the 3sfe is different to the 3sge .

[BLOODUK]

hey Jimad whats your engine bay like? :arrgg-matey:

[Jimlad]

hey Jimad whats your engine bay like?  :arrgg-matey:

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dirty :D

[BLOODUK]

hey Jimad whats your engine bay like?  :arrgg-matey:

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dirty :D

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Like mine then :D :D

[ToyotaTosh]

normally aspirated do have airflow meters!!!!! cos mine has !!!!!

mine is a 3FSE on a 1992 K-Plate

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oh they have them but they are super rare super slow cars 112bhp arn't they? carina e engine.

In my very first post i said 3sge engine cars don't have them, you never mentioned any fe business :D

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i dont think that theyre that slow, mine is just as quick as my dads G limited and his has induction kit on it ( not much diff i know ) and mine is standard ( for now )

[dawolf]

The 3SFE only has 119bhp and the 3SGE's have 145-170bhp depending on revision so it's highly unlikely yours will keep up with a G-Limited unless the driver is very poor.

[izod]

Thanks guys had another look tonight and cant see the flat connector or any swing arm in the (mass of!)left overs from the conversion, so i am assuming no air flow meter... - ill post the pics tommorow

Any ideas about the temp problem?? took it for a spin today and still no higher than 1/3 on the temp gauge- remember it reaching 1/2 sat on the motorway on one of the warmer days recently but no more.

Cheers again

[Fitz]

It wouldn't be the thermostat sticking open would it? I know this happens on my Rover.

[mergli]

Before I swapped to my cone filter my temp gauge was always at half way (once warmed up obviously), now it's always about 4 'clicks' lower.