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[Gazza04]

Hi all, im a newbie ive currently got a mk4 vauxhall astra Sri which im selling to get a celica gen7 140 or 190, can you peeps give me any info about the differences between the 2 & what to look out for when buying one please, im off out in a little while to have a look at a few

[sotal]

Good choice swapping to a Toyota

The 140 and 190 are the bhp of the different cars. The 140 has the VVT-I engine and the 190 has the VVTL-I

The 190 has the extra L in the engine type, which stands for Lift. Lift engages when you get quite high up the revs (over 4500rpm I think??) and gives you a boost of power - similar (but not as good) to a turbo.

You have to watch out for Lift Bolts as they tend to wear out and can cause engine damage. The latest ones have revised bolts - but I think you can get old bolts changed under warranty??

The boot lift struts are also a place to watch out for espicially if the car has a spoiler. They often aren't strong enough to hold the boot and should be replaced before you buy the car (if they are weak)

Hope this info helps - have a browse through the forum as they points a covered quite a bit!

Cheers

[Gazza04]

Cheers, i knew about the BHP differences i just wondered if there was much difference in it, i was gonna get the celica instead of my astra but the insurance was a bit expensive

[sotal]

I wouldn't have thought insurance would be much more for the 140 compared to the astra sri.

The autotrader website is quite good for searching lots of companies.

From what I have seen (I have never driven a gen 7 celica) the performance is pretty much the sma ebetween the models until you get up the rev range, as soon as you are up the rev range it's a hell of alot quicker - but you do have to work it to get the speed out of it.

It may be cheaper to insure an older faster celica. A gen 6 celica like mine may be cheaper to insure and you could go for a GT4 which would easily outperform a 190 - mine is only a 1.8ST - approx 118bhp which is good but not a performance machine!

I went for the 1.8ST for insurance reasons and economy (I drive 5 miles to work and back each day at an avg speed of 10mph)

[Pasty]

Gazza....

I'm liking your choice in car.... Soon Gen 7 owners will take over the world.....

As sotal said but the lift is at 6200rpm... It takes a little bit to get there but when you get used to it the car is awesome.

Things to look for:

1. Boot struts as mentioned

2. alloys. Should look like new... some were prone to bubblin (replaced under warrenty)

3. Hubs were prone to rusting.

Other than that I think one gen 7 should drive as good as the next.

Insurance for me 29 full no claims paid 620.... not too bad. Shop around a few places wouldn't insure me. The Joys of living in Amazingstoke (Sorry Basingstoke...)

[Pasty]

Ooops

Forgot to Say welcome....

[Gazza04]

thanks again i have just had a insurance quote for the 140 celica and its £759 im 23 with 2 &half yrs NCB but i pay £680 for my astra the quotes for the 190 were coming up just over £1000 so lit looks like il be going for the 140

[Pasty]

thanks again i have just had a insurance quote for the 140 celica and its £759 im 23 with 2 &half yrs NCB but i pay £680 for my astra the quotes for the 190 were coming up just over £1000   so lit looks like il be going for the 140

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Hmm... Have a long hard think about it mate.... Once you have the 140... and see a 190 in the 6 to 8000 rev zone you'll cry.....

I would suggest you drive both (try and borrow each for a day...)

Saying that both cars perform very similarly upto 6K so it depends on how you drive!

Good luck though. I don't think you will regret buying either...

[Gazza04]

hopefully il be able to test drive both 2moro and compare the 2, now all i need to do is get rid of my astra............................. any takers :D

[Gazza04]

following my test drive at the weekend, im completely convinced into getting the celica, i had a couple of other cars playing on my mind but its now final, unfortunatley i never had the chance to test drive the 190 only the 140 now i have just got to get rid of my astra the fund the new one

[doormanpgd]

Gazza....

I'm liking your choice in car.... Soon Gen 7 owners will take over the world.....

As sotal said but the lift is at 6200rpm...  It takes a little bit to get there but when you get used to it the car is awesome.

Things to look for:

1. Boot struts as mentioned

2. Alloys.  Should look like new... some were prone to bubblin (replaced under warrenty)

3. Hubs were prone to rusting.

Other than that I think one gen 7 should drive as good as the next.

Insurance for me 29 full no claims paid 620.... not too bad.  Shop around a few places wouldn't insure me.  The Joys of living in Amazingstoke (Sorry Basingstoke...)

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[doormanpgd]

Gazza....

I'm liking your choice in car.... Soon Gen 7 owners will take over the world.....

As sotal said but the lift is at 6200rpm...  It takes a little bit to get there but when you get used to it the car is awesome.

Things to look for:

1. Boot struts as mentioned

2. Alloys.  Should look like new... some were prone to bubblin (replaced under warrenty)

3. Hubs were prone to rusting.

Other than that I think one gen 7 should drive as good as the next.

Insurance for me 29 full no claims paid 620.... not too bad.  Shop around a few places wouldn't insure me.  The Joys of living in Amazingstoke (Sorry Basingstoke...)

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Re alloys replaced under warranty, just got my wife a 'V' reg 2000 Gen 7, with dodgy wheels, I guess it's to late now for a Warranty claim? If so ideas on refurb. where how much, and can I get loan wheels while job is done?

Thanks

Dave