Getting Rear Speakers 4 Ts

[ferrariboyuk]

I've got a quote from toyota for some rear Speakers as i had them in my other yaris.

I'm quoting from my quote.....

Speaker kit (rear) - £48.95 incl. VAT

Speaker wiring loom - 15.95

Fitting time 0.75 hours.

Total for parts and fitting = 124.38

Can i go to them and just get the parts or wont they do that. I'd like to fit it myself as i've taken my other yaris apart (dash and all) and it seems easy.

Also, can i use their own wire but my own Speakers? With any adaptor at the Speakers end? I might put my own speakers into the plastic case that they use if thats possible.

[avensis_man]

doesent the yaris come with rear spealers?

[rossnova]

Can i go to them and just get the parts or wont they do that.  I'd like to fit it myself as i've taken my other yaris apart (dash and all) and it seems easy.

Also, can i use their own wire but my own speakers?  With any adaptor at the speakers end?  I might put my own speakers into the plastic case that they use if thats possible.

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Yes mate, u can go into Toyota & buy anything u wish & they wont charge u any extra for it. Its totally up to u if u want them 2 fit parts. The option is yours

[vladrulli]

buy some good Speakers, don't go for the stock - they are crap...

[armoredfist2002]

You will be better off doing it yourself. Get some 6 x 9's in the rear parcel shelf.

£124.38 for everything, you can get some decent Speakers for that price and it's about £10 for 5meters of speaker wire from Halfords which is more than enough to wire rear Speakers up, plus they will sound better than stock toyota Speakers.

Your choice mate

[ferrariboyuk]

it's about £10 for 5meters of speaker wire from halfords which is more than enough to wire rear speakers up

Your choice mate

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are speaker wires universal? Will one set plug into the Speakers and the standard CD player?

[armoredfist2002]

it's about £10 for 5meters of speaker wire from halfords which is more than enough to wire rear speakers up

Your choice mate

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are speaker wires universal? Will one set plug into the Speakers and the standard CD player?

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yes they are universal, but when you buy it off the rolls, you will need to buy some of the connectors available from maplin, don't know if Halfords sell them, you'd have to ask.

As for putting the other end of the wires into the standard head unit you will need some wire strippers and some little white connector blocks to connect them up.

[Baby Yari]

doesent the yaris come with rear spealers?

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to answer your question as blunt as possible, no!

[Al J]

doesent the yaris come with rear spealers?

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to answer your question as blunt as possible, no!

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Less bluntly, Yarii have their Speakers at either edge of the dashboard with one extra speaker in each front (or only) door.

[seveer unaek]

Just get the loom and wire in your own Speakers. Iv got the toyota ones and they really are pretty crap. I keep meaning to change them, but havn't had time or money as yet!

This picture shows the headunit wires, the white ones in the middle that look pretty stretched are the rear Speakers i think! It's the connector into the headunit they charge for!

You'll need about 8 metres of speaker wire to allow for any mistakes i'd say, but 10 will allow for some slack. Then you just need speaker connectors for the Speakers you put in, they're only about £2 from Halfords for 8 i think, which is more than enough. Think they're called spade connectors, one thin, one fat to connect. Or you can buy speakers with binding posts, and you just thread the speaker wire through these.

Oh, these are the toyota rear speakers:

[MillzE]

Anyone got the part number for that green wiring loom??

[A.T.G]

If you want generally great sound, and a bit deeper sound than you currently have, your best bet would be a pair of Exact 8 Vibe Speakers... Officially they're "subs" but due to their small size, the response and sound is suberb...

Essentially they've wiped the floor with any 6x9s you can get hold off, and you can get them for about 50 quid if you shop around....

Beware they need an amp, and also having "subs" might make you look like a certain genre of driver we all hate, however for general music, pop, rock, metal, you can't go far wrong for a pair.... You Can install them in the parcel shelf, however you better make sure its a solid parcel shelf.. I wouldn't use a box though as the Yarii boot is small enough...

Also they are beautiful lol

Exact 8

They are self cooling through the cone, and if i remember have a frequency response of 20 - 3500Hz... Which is more than you need either way really for normal music...

I'm biased as i have fallen in love with them, but seriosuly 6x9s are likely to overheat and get damaged coils etc etc

Oh if you hadn't guess they're 8 inch diameter

[Robie]

This picture shows the headunit wires, the white ones in the middle that look pretty stretched are the rear speakers i think! It's the connector into the headunit they charge for!

Im pretty sure it is the green wires for the Speakers.... you have the adapator plugged in which is a 2 into 1 type adaptor where the rear Speakers are plugged into it at the same time as the front 4.

[ferrariboyuk]

This picture shows the headunit wires, the white ones in the middle that look pretty stretched are the rear speakers i think! It's the connector into the headunit they charge for!

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Im pretty sure it is the green wires for the Speakers.... you have the adapator plugged in which is a 2 into 1 type adaptor where the rear Speakers are plugged into it at the same time as the front 4.

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The rear speaker cable is white and think mine has some black on to - it only has four cables. I know coz my old yaris has standard yaris ones too. Dont want to pay labour tho nor do i want the standards again on my ts.

But what i do want is the toyota wire loom to fit into the head unit and then any adaptors the be at the speaker end if pos. I dont want to fiddle with cutting cables or anything, just plug and play!

Been to Halfords today, are the toyota speakers/wire loom four way/four channel? cant remember which is the right term.

Whats your opinion on theses? (Kenwood KFC-6979ie 6x9)

http://www.halfords.com/opd_product_detail...8&type=0&cat=44

[A.T.G]

If your really after 6x9s... Go for a set of Vibe QB 69...

My friend has a set and they're the best 6x9s ive heard... Combine these with replacing regular door Speakers and you get a great sound-scape...

Specifications* QB 69

Configuration 2-way

Speaker Size 6x9" Rectangular

RMS Power 200w

Peak Power 600w

Sensitivity 93dB

Frequency

Response 30 - 25,000Hz

Impedance 4ohm

Mounting Hole 170x220mm

See them here

PS - The Halfords website is terrible, over priced, and not up-to-date

[ferrariboyuk]

If your really after 6x9s... Go for a set of Vibe QB 69...

My friend has a set and they're the best 6x9s ive heard... Combine these with replacing regular door speakers and you get a great sound-scape...

Specifications* QB 69

Configuration 2-way

Speaker Size  6x9" Rectangular 

RMS Power 200w

Peak Power  600w

Sensitivity 93dB

Frequency

Response 30 - 25,000Hz

Impedance 4ohm

Mounting Hole 170x220mm

See them here

PS - The Halfords website is terrible, over priced, and not up-to-date

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I dont really know what i'm after. Just some rear Speakers, thats all i know. :D

That specification dont mean anything to me.

someone mentioned 6 x 9 and those kenwords caught my eye in the shop. I like the design. Thinks they look better than round ones, if a bit big.

And the price for these are the same on the site as in da shop. very similar at leat.

[A.T.G]

Halfords isnt the best place for sound stuff... It's all rather expensive, although not so bad.... Most sell Vibe components although some don't, but Vibe are very good for the money - but they're not the cheapest you can buy by a long way...

What music are you after to playing?

You a man who likes volume, or quality? (Or rich so you can have both)

What sort of money you after spending? i can prob help if i know these things????

:P

[seveer unaek]

Those Speakers you listed are far too powerful for the guys needs. They're only running off the standard Head Unit right?? Well, that's about 10w per channel, so unless you power-amp the Speakers, they only really need to be 10w's! I'd recommend some Alpine 13cm coaxials (same size as standard toyota speakers) or Focal's are another brilliant speaker. Both are rated at max 120w i think. The frequency range (range of sounds in the speaker from high to low, or treble to bass) are also very well suited to the standard head unit.

It seems to me that all you're after is something to add audio to the rear... in which case something from JBL would probably be fine... fairly cheap and they offer a pretty decent sound. My 10cm coaxials are fantastic.

6x9's i don't think will suit what yoiu require.... unless you're running a high power system, they will be redundant as they will be drawing too much of the music to the rear of the car, causing an awkward sound stage.

In my opinion, you'd be much better off upgrading the front Speakers first, then working on the rears, as it's the fronts that provide most of the music to your ears and your ears prefer it from the front, not the rear.

A good place to get your stuff if you're anywhere near leeds or doncaster is here:

Unicar

They've been brilliant for me, they're open to negotiations on price, they can get pretty much anything you want and the staff are great too.

At the end of the day, it's your car and your sound, but 6x9's and anything pushing out a rated peak of past 150w's is going to be useless as you're never going to reach thos kind of limits and the speakers will be harder to drive. Stick to coaxials (normal 2 or 3-way speakers) with half decent speaker cable and better fronts and you'll have great sound until you start amping and subbing!

[ferrariboyuk]

What music are you after to playing?

You a man who likes volume, or quality? (Or rich so you can have both)

What sort of money you after spending? i can prob help if i know these things????

:P

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All i want is some quality - a bit better than toyota's. I'm not the kind who wants a huge sub thing in the boot with the volume at its highest.

forgot to say how much so here it is.. I want to spend around £50 plus cables. Not really any more.

They're only running off the standard Head Unit right?? Well, that's about 10w per channel, so unless you power-amp the speakers, they only really need to be 10w's! I'd recommend some Alpine 13cm coaxials (same size as standard toyota speakers) or Focal's are another brilliant speaker. Both are rated at max 120w i think. The frequency range (range of sounds in the speaker from high to low, or treble to bass) are also very well suited to the standard head unit.

It seems to me that all you're after is something to add audio to the rear... in which case something from JBL would probably be fine... fairly cheap and they offer a pretty decent sound. My 10cm coaxials are fantastic.

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Yeah, using the standard head unit. So i need it to get the power from that right? i dont want to get any other way. Which limits the power rating i can have? Does watts relate to volume and therefore the power they consume? I assume the quality relates to the frequencey?

Whats the channel all about and what do toyota Speakers have in terms of channels?

All i want is to have slightly better sound than what i've got with my old yaris on standard toyota rears.

Wots the alpines you recomend again? I;ve looked on their site but all it says is type X's, R's and E's.

[seveer unaek]

Yeah, using the standard head unit.  So i need it to get the power from that right? i dont want to get any other way. Which limits the power rating i can have? Does watts relate to volume and therefore the power they consume?  I assume the quality relates to the frequencey? 

Whats the channel all about and what do toyota speakers have in terms of channels?

All i want is to have slightly better sound than what i've got with my old yaris on standard toyota rears. 

Wots the alpines you recomend again? I;ve looked on their site but all it says is type X's, R's and E's.

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The power for the Speakers will all be coming from the headunit... by power, i don't mean electricity, just the driving power of the sound. Watts doesn't necessarily relate to power, it's about achieving a balanced sound. The ohm rating of a speaker tells you how easy it is for the amp (or headunit in this case) to drive, however im pretty sure all mainstream car Speakers are 4ohms. Another factor is their dB rating (decibels) or frequency this can vary quite a bit... the higher the rating, the easier it is for the amp to power and therefore the louder it'll be.

The frequency i suppose can be seen as the quality... a large frequency range means the speaker can handle many different types of music.... the chemical brothers generally produce songs which use very high and very low frequencies... Under the Influence comes to mind. A speaker with a good range means it will be able to cover all the frequencies without straining... and will therefore not lose quality (won't distort and crackle) or volume.

The channels are just the channels of sound... left, right etc.

The 2/3 way business of channels is how many drive units the speaker has... 2 means it's got a bass cone and a tweeter cone. A three way has this but a third, mid-range cone... this isn't totally necessary as 2-way Speakers just mix the sound from the two cones, but a 3-way speaker will generally have more detail, but this is only dependant on the song that requires it. A simple song, like all this r'n'b crap is just bass and an atempt at singing, and so doesn't require much. Most electronic music... Chemical Brothers, Les Rythem Digitales, Lemon Jelly etc... have a huge variety in frequencies and therefore would prefer a 3-way speaker for increased detail.

If all you're wanting is a slightly better sound, then all you'll need is a 2-way coxial speaker, nothing more than 150w peak power, anything upto 93dB, and a decent frequency range. Shouldn't cost you more than £50.

Oh, the alpine's are these:

Alpine speaker

They would be brilliant for what you seem to require. A good three-way speaker is this:

Three way Kenwood

Sorry for the rambling! Hope this helps anyway!

[ferrariboyuk]

Seen some kenwoods like that in Halfords but there 220W.

I like the look of them so 150W kenwoods are one option. But does 3 way mean more cables? Or is it still two?

Theres a shop i know in billericay called Decibles. tThey've got a terrible web site, so I'll pop in.

Cheers for all this help. Its good stuff.

[chrisb]

If your after some 6*9s i have some pioneer ones for sale only used for a couple of hours!They were the danglies when i bought them!

PM me

CB