Navigating By The Stars

[MrWinkey]

Hello All,

its been a while, but now i have a new question.

Its about the built in Toyota Sat Nav in the SR (i dont know which other models can have this)

I want to know if anyone has it and if it is worth getting. Haris has all the bits there to allow Sat Nav use, but just no Sat NAv.

I want to get the origonal one as apposed to an aftermarket one as i want to keep the car looking as clean and origonal as possible.

I know people are going to tell me to get the Tom tom one, but i really want someone who is in a position to compare.

Does the Toyota one work off post codes? (Sat Nav vergin)

Cheers in advance,

MrWinkey

[Demonic Angel]

Helllooooo Mr Winkey - good to see ya back!

Ermmm well, with regards to Yaris Sat Nav, tbh I'm not too sure how good it is - best person to ask is The Voice of Reason, I believe he has it on his Yaris.

My other half has the Toyota Sat Nav on his Corolla, but its not the same one you get on the Yaris, because his is the full colour flippy screen one, the Yaris one is on the small screen and is black and white - generically I think they're the same programme, its just the Corolla one has the bigger screen, and his one does work off postcodes and you can set your POI's etc - I think on his you can store up to 30 postcodes and give them names, such as "Home", "Work" etc (although why you'd want to Sat Nav yourself Home I dont know!

[Blaze]

(although why you'd want to Sat Nav yourself Home I dont know! 

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If you go on a long journey to somewhere you dont know its good to be able to find your way home! So "home" is a good option! Trust us! otherwise you'll end up in melton mowbray when you want nottingham!

[Fidgits]

personally, i would reccomend getting the TomTom kit rather than the OEM...

It is as good, if not better than most OEM systems, and is significantly cheaper..

[jaxx]

if youve got a smartphone that runs simbian OS you can also get sat nav for that called Wayfinder

brill if your trousered at the boozer!

[reece]

My other half has the Toyota Sat Nav on his Corolla, but its not the same one you get on the Yaris, because his is the full colour flippy screen one, the Yaris one is on the small screen and is black and white - generically I think they're the same programme, its just the Corolla one has the bigger screen

Reading past posts the Toyota sat nav is the same in all modals, it will be the TNS200 or TNS300 one is CD and the other is a DVD.

The only difference is the way it is displayed.

[ferrariboyuk]

From what i can remember they dont do post codes but they do do telephone numbers. The system used in phase 1 yaris's aint as good as the new system in phase 2's in my opinion. I have both. You can view the route being taken and (possibly) change the route to you liking in the newer system.

Obviously you'll need to make sure what you can put into your yaris depending on which phase???

[MrWinkey]

Hi All,

thanks for replying, although i am really none the wiser now and some of you have contradicted others.

If the OEM system is as good as the Tomtom, then i would prefer to spend the extra money on the OEM as it keeps the car clean (and little ******ts dont see something they want to steel)

Does anyone know how much it would cost to get the OEM bought and installed?

Hi Angel, it has been a while, i have been busy setting up my new company, so not really had time to do anything, leats of all chat rubbish on here. lol. Looks like you have changed your pic, but not sure why i think this.

Hope all is well,

MrWinkey

[clarky]

Just been through the same dilema ... what it came down to for me was:

1. OEM system is the best part of 800 to buy and install ... or so MrT says

2. Its gonna be stuck with the car when I sell it

3. I cant use it for anything other than car based satnav

4. I found in the forsale section a Garmin Quest that is significiantly cheaper

5. Its portable from car to car

6. It can be used as a hand held model (handy for hillwalking and city navigating)

7. Its waterproof - Im a clumsey sod and have dropped phones whilst out b4

.. decision made.

[Demonic Angel]

Hi Angel, it has been a while, i have been busy setting up my new company, so not really had time to do anything, leats of all chat rubbish on here. lol. Looks like you have changed your pic, but not sure why i think this.

Hope all is well,

MrWinkey

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Errr - I did slightly change it - from this one

to this one

Still Jessica Rabbit though!

[Fidgits]

well depending on what your after...

But my TomTom has been modified to accept postcodes - and also has a speed camera warning now installed...

It is very modifiable - something that cant be said for the OEM system..

But as you say, the OEM system is, well, OEM, so looks better...

As for the theft - i hide mine in the glovebox... so thats not an issue...

[Matthew_McNally]

It is as good, if not better than most OEM systems, and is significantly cheaper..

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I would disagree with that mate.

The Tom Tom is a good piece of kit - but it I would not say its better than OEM. Its certainly not better than the nav in my GS.

It is too slow, and not vocal enough.

You vary from the route - such as missing a turning, then the TT is quite slow to recalculate the route, and does not give you enough spoken instructions as to the route you should be following. This is fatal in my mind, as that is the ONE time you want it to bug you senseless with constant directions.

What happens is you drive around lost, paying more attention to the screen than the road.

With my fathers TTGo on one occasion, by the time it had recalculated the route - we had actually gone past where it wanted us to go :ffs: :ffs:

The Lexus OEM system however (and I have no reason to suspect the Toyota one is any different - I expect they are the same) recalculates A LOT quicker, and gives every direction vocally as well as on the screen.

If you drive past your turning, it will be telling you to "Do a U Turn if possible" or such within seconds.

[MrWinkey]

Clarky,

cheesr for the reply mate, you had swung me until i read Matts reply (cheers Matt) and am now stuck again.

I think i will have to let price be a deciding factor.

Also, how else does sat nav work if not by post code? (i have never used it)

Angel,

sorry for forgetting what your pic looked like before, i have a real bad memory, but hey, at least i noticed it at all, most guys wouldn't have. lol. Must admit, it appeals to me more, being a lover of the booty rather than the booby.

MrWinkey

[reece]

although why you'd want to Sat Nav yourself Home I dont know! 

When you are alone in a different city in the dark and its raining and you don’t know which way the motorway is to get home, then you may realise why ‘Home’ is your number 1 destination.

Very useful if you have to take a diversion due to accidents or roadwork’s and congestion, turn off the main route on the way home and the sat nav will recalculate your journey and still get you home in time for Neighbours.

Also:

Why do you need a post code? A post code will put you in a street which could be ½ mile long.

If you are going somewhere then do your homework and get the proper address which is what you would do with or without sat nav.

If you know the post code, stick it in Multimap and that will give the latitude and longitude which can be put in some systems which is more precise.

You pay your money and take your choice.

If you intend keeping the car a few years and rarely go in other peoples cars, get the manufacturers sat nav, it can be changed over if you change your car in the future.

If you swap and change motors on a regular basis and travel in other people’s motors, then get a portable one.

[Moffmo]

Sound advice by reece there mate

[seveer unaek]

If the system doesn't use postcode, it uses the house number and street name and first four digits of the code (eg. 26 The Road, LS06) Only problem with this is that in some postcodes there can be streets with the same name... also, if you're a courier or some form of multi-drop driver, your list of stops is usually a list of postcodes.

This is what people have told me when asking about systems that I have to sell (even though I have a very basic idea about these systems!)

An OEM system often uses not only satellite tracking but also sensors on the vehicle to know exactly which direction you're travelling, your exact speed, conditions etc... this is why they can work quicker (like Matt said)

At the end of the day, it comes down to price and personal choice... both OEM and aftermarket systems use the same satellites so should give the same route... both will have almost identical maps and both can be theft-proof.

But... OEM looks better and is usually quicker, whereas aftermarket is usually cheaper, more upgradable and more convenient in terms of out-of-car travel.

[jaxx]

the alpine one also lets you use postcodes but then asks you to confirm the road and house/ building name/number

silly accurate it is aswell!

[MrWinkey]

Cheers All,

i think i will leave it down to price and ask Toyota how much they will installe the OEM for.

Cheers again,

MrWinkey

[Demonic Angel]

I did a boo boo Mr Winkey!

I said up there that the Toyota Sat Nav stores postcodes..... it doesnt. Its just an address search, which is just as good, if not better I suppose as you specify the town, street and house number and it takes you directly there.

[MrWinkey]

Hi Angel,

yeh for most people that would be good, but we very rarely go to actual houses, but instead visit attractions which dont normally have a street number. So post codes are a lot handier for us.

Shame, but nevermind. You cant have everything.

You changed your pic again, typical women, always changing her mind. I also just noticed that you are now "The Derriere Detective...", this sounds like a good job. Thats definitely my favourite part of a womens anatomy. Do you needa side kick? I offer my services free of charge.

MW

[reece]

It only takes a little time and effort to plan your journey.

Let’s take Alton Towers for example. Not exactly number 123 High Street Glasgow is it?

So, go to Google and you get this

Here

Clicking on the Alton Towers site spookily enough gives you the address,

Alton Towers

Alton

Staffordshire

ST10 4DB

England

As you mentioned, not an actually house, put the post code in www.multimap.com

And you get this

Here

So within 60 seconds you can have...

The postal address

The postcode

Grid reference

Lat and long (in 2 formats)

Or you could even try Wootton Lane, Farley

Whatever sat nav you buy you will be able to input at least one of the above details and get to your destination.

A lot quicker than looking it up in the map if you can find one!

[seveer unaek]

It only takes a little time and effort to plan your journey.

Let’s take Alton Towers for example. Not exactly number 123 High Street Glasgow is it?

So, go to Google and you get this

Here

Clicking on the Alton Towers site spookily enough gives you the address,

Alton Towers

Alton

Staffordshire

ST10 4DB

England

As you mentioned, not an actually house, put the post code in www.multimap.com

And you get this

Here

So within 60 seconds you can have...

The postal address

The postcode

Grid reference

Lat and long (in 2 formats)

Or you could even try Wootton Lane, Farley

Whatever sat nav you buy you will be able to input at least one of the above details and get to your destination.

A lot quicker than looking it up in the map if you can find one!

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Or, with your copy of Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (which im sure most of you are running) you get Microsoft Autoroute... just click full install and install all components and you have a magic autoroute ready to print. Oh... if you have it on a laptop... plug in your £80 iNforad Speed detector and you can use it as Sat Nav too! Onion Bargain!

[Demonic Angel]

Hi Angel,

yeh for most people that would be good, but we very rarely go to actual houses, but instead visit attractions which dont normally have a street number. So post codes are a lot handier for us.

Shame, but nevermind. You cant have everything.

You changed your pic again, typical women, always changing her mind. I also just noticed that you are now "The Derriere Detective...", this sounds like a good job. Thats definitely my favourite part of a womens anatomy. Do you needa side kick? I offer my services free of charge.

MW

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The attractions my dear are stored in another section, so you can choose places like Alton Towers out of the list, automatic directions!

Yeah have changed pic, thought this one looked very "me" - have been the Derriere Detective for a while now, except I look at the male behind, not the female. You can be my sidekick if you want (does Bottom Boy suit you? lol) but I specialiise in the male booty, so you'd have to put up with that!

[MrWinkey]

Reece,

i am not whinging about havng to do a little work, as this is how i find my way around all the time, its just with the system that would go into Harris, i would imagine it is much easier to input a post code than to mess around with an address.

Unaek, i did not know about the MS route planner, i will have to have a shufty at that, it sounds like a cool piece of kit if i use it with my laptop (only problem is, i dont think my laptop would last on Battery power all the way down the country (Leeds to Cornwall), but it sounds like a nice cheap sat nav option to me.

Angel,

i has assumed as much (but hoped otherwise), but i am sure that a lot of these lads your looking at will have girlies with them that i could inspect. So the job of sidekick doesnt have to mean Bottom Boy afterall, although the name could go either way, look at my Hero, Ben, Ben Dover. What a guy!

MW

[seveer unaek]

Yeah, Battery powers the killer... you can get an inverter, but then it's just extra cabling and faff.