2006 Yaris T-sport Or Focus St3

[nam]

Hi All,

I have had my P2 5-Door yaris t-sport now about 6 months but will looking to sell p/x fairly soon for a either the new yaris t-sport or focus ST3.

Will the new yaris t-sport be better the than http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/carreviews/review.aspx?model_id=1441

:)

[Demonic Angel]

You cant really compare them - totally different class of cars!

ST is faster obviously, bigger engine etc but IMO its a bit boy racer, more so than the T-Sport could ever be....

Basically, if you want something similar to what you currently have, get a Yaris T-Sport and if you want a boy racer type fast car, get the Focus ST....

[sc-em]

When deciding on a car to buy, I went to see my mates who work in garages and have done for years. Their answers on all accounts was go Japanese if you want reliablility etc etc. As for a Ford, to quote one of them

" I wouldn't have a Ford on the drive"

Guess it depends on how often you want to dip into your pocket.

[Fidgits]

yeah, as Demonic Angel says - they are completley different cars, different prices, different sizes, different performance, different running costs...

it comes down to what you want, and what you can afford..

[nam]

Hi,

i guess it all depends on price at present a 5door ST3 should be avaliable for around 15-16K. My 53 plate P2 5 Door with 12K milegae should get me around 7K so the trade-off sounds good to me. Still Would like to wait for the new t-sport but am worried that it may not be all i am expecting engine/feature and price wise

You cant really compare them - totally different class of cars!

ST is faster obviously, bigger engine etc but IMO its a bit boy racer, more so than the T-Sport could ever be....

Basically, if you want something similar to what you currently have, get a Yaris T-Sport and if you want a boy racer type fast car, get the Focus ST....

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[Ryan1985]

Is it not just called the Focus ST? ;)

Anyway, I'd avoid a Ford at all costs really, its faster and might handle better but I generally just don't like Fords. :)

As Fidgits said, if you can afford either, then its up to you!

[nam]

Will seriously be looking over the next few months as i want to get the best possible p/x or price for my current 5 door t-sport .

Is the new yaris t-sport be expected in march 2006 ?

Is it not just called the Focus ST? ;)

Anyway, I'd avoid a Ford at all costs really, its faster and might handle better but I generally just don't like Fords. :)

As Fidgits said, if you can afford either, then its up to you!

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[DaveSR]

You might of had a better comparision with the Fiesta ST ......... but like others have said the build quality speaks for itself!

Are you going for the Focus over the Fiesta because it's bigger? - Well then, the Yaris will be no good!

However we still can't really compare the two cars yet as we are still waiting for the spec's/price of the new Yaris TS.

Hopefully Mr T will suprise us with a nice big engine!

[EDIT] - Nobody knows anything about the new TS - Not even Mr T (Well not the one's at the bottom) But I think they might bring it out when the new reg comes out in march *I think?

Edited December 4, 2005 by ЪV€

[nam]

Hi,

The reason i chose the focus is down to the engine and price wise there is not much else in that range for performance.

just seen some nice Vitz pics here http://toyota.jp/vitz/grade/rs/index.html, but unfortunately can't see the price i do expect t-sport should be around the 14-15K if it going to compete with others..

You might of had a better comparision with the Fiesta ST ......... but like others have said the build quality speaks for itself!

Are you going for the Focus over the Fiesta because it's bigger? - Well then, the Yaris will be no good!

However we still can't really compare the two cars yet as we are still waiting for the spec's/price of the new Yaris TS.

Hopefully Mr T will suprise us with a nice big engine!

[EDIT] - Nobody knows anything about the new TS - Not even Mr T (Well not the one's at the bottom) But I think they might bring it out when the new reg comes out in march *I think?

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[Tommy_C]

I Spoke to Mr T about the new Yaris the other day, they think that the new T-sport will out by about May/June time and that its gonna be a supercharged 1.5 with about 150bhp prusumably to complete with the Fiesta STand Colt CZT. Not sure how true this is but I hope their right :)

[s0cks]

Get the Focus. It's gonna be way faster and much more fun! Did you see the top gear review by jeremy? He loved it.

And the Focus is an extremely reliable car. Generally Jap cars are more reliable but not everything non-Jap is kak.

However, saying all this, if it was me I wouldn't get anything that wasn't Jap. Civic Type-R maybe?

[cmarshall]

The new corolla compressor which is similar price to the focus its jap and possibly faster.

[jaxx]

Get the Focus. It's gonna be way faster and much more fun! Did you see the top gear review by jeremy? He loved it.

And the Focus is an extremely reliable car. Generally Jap cars are more reliable but not everything non-Jap is kak.

However, saying all this, if it was me I wouldn't get anything that wasn't Jap. Civic Type-R maybe?

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you mean that horrific orange thing powered by Volvo!

whoop whoop!

[admanirv]

The new corolla compressor which is similar price to the focus its jap and possibly faster.

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yup its an st not st3

ive driven both, corolla other day actually.

lol the corolla is a hell of lot faster than an st and has nice handling an generally look good on the outside, it makes a nice noise its a 1.8 supercharged. (0-60 6.7 i think) boy is it fast.

the st, believe it or not has excellent handling and very nippy though 7.9 0-60 from a 2.0 aint impressive (me and 0-60s)!. the outside and inside sadly is crap, i dont like the otuside look like bits were stuck on last minute. my modded yaris has no chance.

my opinion but..

id go for corolla

[nam]

Hi,

I didn't know the corolla is faster than the ST3 , i expect it is more than 18K if it is quicker than a 2.5 turbo ?

The new corolla compressor which is similar price to the focus its jap and possibly faster.

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yup its an st not st3

ive driven both, corolla other day actually.

lol the corolla is a hell of lot faster than an st and has nice handling an generally look good on the outside, it makes a nice noise its a 1.8 supercharged. (0-60 6.7 i think) boy is it fast.

the st, believe it or not has excellent handling and very nippy though 7.9 0-60 from a 2.0 aint impressive (me and 0-60s)!. the outside and inside sadly is crap, i dont like the otuside look like bits were stuck on last minute. my modded yaris has no chance.

my opinion but..

id go for corolla

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[nam]

i agree if Clarkson loves it, its got to be good. :)

Waiting to get a test drive in the ST3 asap

Get the Focus. It's gonna be way faster and much more fun! Did you see the top gear review by jeremy? He loved it.

And the Focus is an extremely reliable car. Generally Jap cars are more reliable but not everything non-Jap is kak.

However, saying all this, if it was me I wouldn't get anything that wasn't Jap. Civic Type-R maybe?

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[nam]

I'm doubtful we'll get the superchargered version, But i bet it will be avaliable only for Japanese market which will be a shame :(

I Spoke to Mr T about the new Yaris the other day, they think that the new T-sport will out by about May/June time and that its gonna be a supercharged 1.5 with about 150bhp prusumably to complete with the Fiesta STand Colt CZT. Not sure how true this is but I hope their right :)

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[nam]

Yep i don't like the orange either, but the Panther black with leather recaro looks hot

:)

Get the Focus. It's gonna be way faster and much more fun! Did you see the top gear review by jeremy? He loved it.

And the Focus is an extremely reliable car. Generally Jap cars are more reliable but not everything non-Jap is kak.

However, saying all this, if it was me I wouldn't get anything that wasn't Jap. Civic Type-R maybe?

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you mean that horrific orange thing powered by Volvo!

whoop whoop!

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[Woody27]

To answer all that:

We are getting the Corolla Supercharged version other here (its already released as far as im aware!)

I like Focus' but in Orange it looks like an "Easy" product from Stellios!

There is an ST3 model that is £20k brand new! The figures for all ST's (whatever number) are 0-60 in 6.6 and producing 221 bhp. That is its brand new price but seeing as the car was released this year i doubt you will get it much cheaper! Its insurance group 18 aswell btw!

The corolla is 0-60 6.9 and 215 bhp. Dunno about price tbh!

O and what exactly is the difference between the ST and ST3 as it aint performance so im guessing its trim?

[admanirv]

To answer all that:

We are getting the Corolla Supercharged version other here (its already released as far as im aware!)

I like Focus' but in Orange it looks like an "Easy" product from Stellios!

There is an ST3 model that is £20k brand new! The figures for all ST's (whatever number) are 0-60 in 6.6 and producing 221 bhp. That is its brand new price but seeing as the car was released this year i doubt you will get it much cheaper! Its insurance group 18 aswell btw!

The corolla is 0-60 6.9 and 215 bhp. Dunno about price tbh!

O and what exactly is the difference between the ST and ST3 as it aint performance so im guessing its trim?

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maybe im getting my wires crossed here, were talking about a fiesta st? the fiesta st now where near as fast as a corolla. Never heard of this st3?

[Woody27]

Talking bout Focus not Fiesta

I can understand your confusion as two completely different cars to compare! Comparing a Fiesta ST n Yaris would be more sensible!

[admanirv]

To answer all that:

We are getting the Corolla Supercharged version other here (its already released as far as im aware!)

I like Focus' but in Orange it looks like an "Easy" product from Stellios!

There is an ST3 model that is £20k brand new! The figures for all ST's (whatever number) are 0-60 in 6.6 and producing 221 bhp. That is its brand new price but seeing as the car was released this year i doubt you will get it much cheaper! Its insurance group 18 aswell btw!

The corolla is 0-60 6.9 and 215 bhp. Dunno about price tbh!

O and what exactly is the difference between the ST and ST3 as it aint performance so im guessing its trim?

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maybe im getting my wires crossed here, were talking about a fiesta st? the fiesta st now where near as fast as a corolla. Never heard of this st3?

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bugger just read focus st3, neverheard of one.

[Woody27]

Its just an ST as far as i can work out from Parkers, and the 3 is just like level of trim (similar to T2, T3, Tspirit etc.)

[nam]

There's a good flash demo here http://www.ford.co.uk/ie/foc_c307/foc_c307...rosite/-/-/3/-#

:)

To answer all that:

We are getting the Corolla Supercharged version other here (its already released as far as im aware!)

I like Focus' but in Orange it looks like an "Easy" product from Stellios!

There is an ST3 model that is £20k brand new! The figures for all ST's (whatever number) are 0-60 in 6.6 and producing 221 bhp. That is its brand new price but seeing as the car was released this year i doubt you will get it much cheaper! Its insurance group 18 aswell btw!

The corolla is 0-60 6.9 and 215 bhp. Dunno about price tbh!

O and what exactly is the difference between the ST and ST3 as it aint performance so im guessing its trim?

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maybe im getting my wires crossed here, were talking about a fiesta st? the fiesta st now where near as fast as a corolla. Never heard of this st3?

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bugger just read focus st3, neverheard of one.

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[seveer unaek]

The Focus ST is a TOTALLY different car to a Yaris... can't believe there was ever even a comparison!!

The ST starts at about £17.5k, rising to £20k for the ST3. There is the ST1, ST2 and ST3. ST1 is the base model with base model things. The ST2 adds some bling, the ST3 adds more bling and a bit of leather.

It is a vulgar car, orange or not. It might be able to ahndle and out-perform a Golf, but then that has a diesel engine (yes it does, putting petrol in is merely something to fool you!) and weighs almost as much as me.

If you want a fast car in this band... the Civic Type-R is easily the best. I was taken for a ride in one for the firts time a few days ago and my friggin' lord it was awesome. It's a proper hot-hatch, as standard it rides hard, handles tight, revs like a mutha (oh the revs... ) and doesn't come with all the excess crap like 12" thick sound deadening, thrones instead of seats, and engines which are engineered for lazy drivers who like to ride on wafts of torque because changing gear might crumple their suit.

In the band of yaris, fiesta etc... Yaris might be slower on paper, but it's a complete package of quality, handling, performance and cheap-to-run-ness! (Oh, im not biased!)

Just a little not though... yiu say you've had your TS for 6 months and you want to change? If it's that bad to you, id stay clear of another!