Engine Replacement

[lee123]

do anyone know what engines will fit in a celica 5 gen 1991 4ws 20l 16v gtr auto,

sorry if this has been asked befor but i cant find anything.

lee

[chris202]

i reckon the 3sgte will :D from the gen 6 ?

need to change it to a manual thou !!

[adamgt]

that would be interesting :D

[lee123]

sound good!!!! but i need to keep it auto.

[chris202]

might be best going with the best auto 3SGE you can find then . (Gen6 GT) probarly get on for £400 from a breakers.

[daktari]

Yours is an import JDM model as the ST183 was never sold in this country.

AFAIK all the UK 3S-GE motors are 154 BHP including the gen 6 models. JDM motors produce better power (170odd) because they`re mapped for 100 RON fuel. Best bet. If you can find one is a BEAMS redtop 3S-GE (200BHP). It should mate up with the autobox. The problem is of course - Availability.

The alternative would be a JDM 3S-GE with a JDM ECU, better exhaust, Possibly a freer breathing panel filter and run the thing on Super Unleaded. You could go the whole hog and get a wild camshaft, Larger valves etc etc. Depends how much money you want to spend.

If you get one out of a gen 6, Make sure it`s not an ST. (115BHP)

[mikeb]

AFAIK all the UK 3S-GE motors are 154 BHP including the gen 6 models. JDM motors produce better power (170odd) because they`re mapped for 100 RON fuel. Best bet. If you can find one is a BEAMS redtop 3S-GE (200BHP). It should mate up with the autobox. The problem is of course - Availability.

UK Gen 5 3s-ge = 158 hp (without cat)

UK Gen 6 3s-ge = 173 hp (with cat)

[daktari]

AFAIK all the UK 3S-GE motors are 154 BHP including the gen 6 models. JDM motors produce better power (170odd) because they`re mapped for 100 RON fuel. Best bet. If you can find one is a BEAMS redtop 3S-GE (200BHP). It should mate up with the autobox. The problem is of course - Availability.

UK Gen 5 3s-ge = 158 hp (without cat)

UK Gen 6 3s-ge = 173 hp (with cat)

I stand corrected (Thought i would somehow ) I took the figures from HERE

[lee123]

thanks all

so its all and only the 3S-GE Engine

and the best hp's are

1 BEAMS redtop 3S-GE = 200BHP

2 UK Gen 6 3s-ge = 173 hp

3 UK Gen 5 3s-ge = 158 hp

would the ECU have to be changed to?

[chris202]

ebay - linky

Or you could buy these and use parts from both !! and sell the rest piece by piece ? probarly make more than you could get them for

[lee123]

are the gt4's 3S-GTE engines?

[daktari]

thanks all

so its all and only the 3S-GE Engine

and the best hp's are

1 BEAMS redtop 3S-GE = 200BHP

2 UK Gen 6 3s-ge = 173 hp

3 UK Gen 5 3s-ge = 158 hp

would the ECU have to be changed to?

Almost definately yes i would think. apart from No3 if thats what you`ve already got.

are the gt4's 3S-GTE engines?

Yes. GT4`s and MR2 Turbos. Three revisions though. From 182 BHP for the ST165. 204 for the ST185 and About a million billion from the ST205. Well almost