Picture For The Mod Of How To Get Your T-sport Quicker Than A Type-r

[T-Sport_Jay]

Well sorry it took so long to get it up here but now you'll all be able to see where i'm coming from.

Now you do need to use this with a K&N panel filter if u use the original one you won't really get the power back from it.

Now an induction kit it is more prone to sucking in warm air because its a cone shape. This is still using the top half of the airbox so its sucking air from the bottom. Now form the pic you'll be able to see an orange tube. I "Borrowed" it from one of our helicopters in maintenance and it runs from underneath the car scooping up plenty of cold air which is being directed 100% on the bottom where the engine is taking in all its air. So u get 100% of the cold air through the filter.

If you use an induction kit even with a hose. It only directs cold air onto 30-40% of its area so you'll still get some warm air getting sucked in. Following me on this. #

Plus its cheaper easier to do and you don't need to mess about with all those other tubes and stuff coming straight off the top half of the airbox. It also produces a nice grumbling noise which is different to an induction kit......so why not be a bit individual and try out this. hahaha

Hope you can all see where i'm coming from and i promise u its works very well otherwise i wouldn't bother going to this trouble to tell you!

Thanks again

Jamie (T Sport Jay)

Enjoy

[bert.tsport]

Well sorry it took so long to get it up here but now you'll all be able to see where i'm coming from.

Now you do need to use this with a K&N panel filter if u use the original one you won't really get the power back from it.

Now an induction kit it is more prone to sucking in warm air because its a cone shape. This is still using the top half of the airbox so its sucking air from the bottom. Now form the pic you'll be able to see an orange tube. I "Borrowed" it from one of our helicopters in maintenance and it runs from underneath the car scooping up plenty of cold air which is being directed 100% on the bottom where the engine is taking in all its air. So u get 100% of the cold air through the filter.

If you use an induction kit even with a hose. It only directs cold air onto 30-40% of its area so you'll still get some warm air getting sucked in. Following me on this. #

Plus its cheaper easier to do and you don't need to mess about with all those other tubes and stuff coming straight off the top half of the airbox. It also produces a nice grumbling noise which is different to an induction kit......so why not be a bit individual and try out this. hahaha

Hope you can all see where i'm coming from and i promise u its works very well otherwise i wouldn't bother going to this trouble to tell you!

Thanks again

Jamie (T Sport Jay)

Enjoy

its a bit blue peter for my taste.... :P

each to there own....

[T-Sport_Jay]

Cheeky bugger hahahaha

[Bero]

Very nice, how good is the silver tape at sealing? i would be worried of it coming off and the corolla t-sport sounding like a massie ferguson t-sport!

[mensa]

Does anyone know how much you could get the bottom half of the air box for?

If you cut all the pipe work away and leave the brackets, you could get a perfect seal with the air flow and something that looks near enough standard.

Any thoughts?

[Bero]

BTW Jamie i like your choice of watches, i have the same Storm watch.

[T128]

thanks for the pic's.

just wondering what colour is your car, from the photo it look like orange metelic :o .

[215 compressor]

Well sorry it took so long to get it up here but now you'll all be able to see where i'm coming from.

Now you do need to use this with a K&N panel filter if u use the original one you won't really get the power back from it.

Now an induction kit it is more prone to sucking in warm air because its a cone shape. This is still using the top half of the airbox so its sucking air from the bottom. Now form the pic you'll be able to see an orange tube. I "Borrowed" it from one of our helicopters in maintenance and it runs from underneath the car scooping up plenty of cold air which is being directed 100% on the bottom where the engine is taking in all its air. So u get 100% of the cold air through the filter.

If you use an induction kit even with a hose. It only directs cold air onto 30-40% of its area so you'll still get some warm air getting sucked in. Following me on this. #

Plus its cheaper easier to do and you don't need to mess about with all those other tubes and stuff coming straight off the top half of the airbox. It also produces a nice grumbling noise which is different to an induction kit......so why not be a bit individual and try out this. hahaha

Hope you can all see where i'm coming from and i promise u its works very well otherwise i wouldn't bother going to this trouble to tell you!

Thanks again

Jamie (T Sport Jay)

Enjoy

got to give a guy credit for trying keep up the good work just need to look a better sure you,ll get there got enough spare hellicopters about

[T-Sport_Jay]

Very nice, how good is the silver tape at sealing? i would be worried of it coming off and the corolla t-sport sounding like a massie ferguson t-sport!

Its very good at sealing. That stuff we get is about £800 a roll just aluminium tape really but i used plenty last thing u need is a !Removed! leaf flying in there hahahaha. No i've done around 6k and its still tight as new. Got my service next week think i'll put original back in just for that.

Yeah i think it works well ok it looks slightly bodge but thats just the tape around the filter. I'm a pro at this and wouldn't use something dodgy on my own pride and joy. No one sees it anyway its purely for performance

I know storm watches r class and my car is super red II think it was just the sun shining in on the pic that gave it a weird colour!

Cheers in a bit

[tea sport]

Interesting idea, Here is a similar idea along the same lines but a bit neater. Not sure it will work on the corolla air box but if anyone wants to be a guinea pig.

http://www.wak-tt.com/mods/ramair/cheapinduction.htm

[g3m xr]

think ill keep to my typhoon kit lol good try tho !

[Zuban]

I drove around with the airbox modded a bit like that for ages, it works well, although I still found a proper induction kit ever so slightly better, never made it faster than a type-r though, although i've never had a go against a standard ctr though lol... leaving the spare and backseats in the garage and decking the car on coilovers helped me p00n a few ctrs like n00bs though :D

[snellgrove]

tip for making it faster than a CTR?

bit of lag maybe, but once its going your off!!! (do leave the traction control on though, wont you?)

;) :D

[Zuban]

If you use an induction kit even with a hose. It only directs cold air onto 30-40% of its area so you'll still get some warm air getting sucked in. Following me on this.

Actually i just re-read this, I dont follow you one bit. If you use an induction kit, the air will be taken from two places. 1. a shortram will take it from the same location as the airbox, and therefore the same location as your modded airbox, therefore getting the same air. 2. A cold air intake, at least moves the filter away from the engine, lower down and forward, therefore it will get colder air than your modded intake could ever hope to, even if it isnt that much colder.

Ok for a start have you guys ever checked out your standard airbox, you need to know how it works, below approx 3000rpm it takes air from behind the offside headlight, this pipe is actually quite restrictive, on purpose, to reduce noise. At around 3000rpm a flap at the rear of the airbox opens, this then takes in air from behind the airbox, and the pipe coming from the headlight. So it seems that no matter what you do, your intake will get exactly the same air as the standard airbox does!. The improvement comes from simply allowing more air into the intake, the pipe from behind the headlight and the flap at the back of the airbox, clearly are not the best designs in terms of airflow. For all those wanting a bit of free power, use the well documented method of simple removing the pipe that runs from behind the headlight to the airbox.

Now for the crunch point, go get a temp sensor, place it at various points around your engine bay, sit it on your short ram, and watch how engine bay temps hardly move from ambient, fact is the main source of heat, the exhaust manifold, is covered in a heat shield, tucked down behind the engine under the firewall. I came off track one day, touched the intake manifold, it was stone cold ;)

[K19NE G]

If you use an induction kit even with a hose. It only directs cold air onto 30-40% of its area so you'll still get some warm air getting sucked in. Following me on this.

Actually i just re-read this, I dont follow you one bit. If you use an induction kit, the air will be taken from two places. 1. a shortram will take it from the same location as the airbox, and therefore the same location as your modded airbox, therefore getting the same air. 2. A cold air intake, at least moves the filter away from the engine, lower down and forward, therefore it will get colder air than your modded intake could ever hope to, even if it isnt that much colder.

Ok for a start have you guys ever checked out your standard airbox, you need to know how it works, below approx 3000rpm it takes air from behind the offside headlight, this pipe is actually quite restrictive, on purpose, to reduce noise. At around 3000rpm a flap at the rear of the airbox opens, this then takes in air from behind the airbox, and the pipe coming from the headlight. So it seems that no matter what you do, your intake will get exactly the same air as the standard airbox does!. The improvement comes from simply allowing more air into the intake, the pipe from behind the headlight and the flap at the back of the airbox, clearly are not the best designs in terms of airflow. For all those wanting a bit of free power, use the well documented method of simple removing the pipe that runs from behind the headlight to the airbox.

Now for the crunch point, go get a temp sensor, place it at various points around your engine bay, sit it on your short ram, and watch how engine bay temps hardly move from ambient, fact is the main source of heat, the exhaust manifold, is covered in a heat shield, tucked down behind the engine under the firewall. I came off track one day, touched the intake manifold, it was stone cold ;)

Finally someone speaking a bit of sense! Still cannot understand why some people play down the benefits of a PROPER induction kit! The CTS is ideal for an induction kit due to the positioning of the manifold as Zuban said above ^^^^