Petrol Into Diesel Doesn't Go

[SW_Yaris_Owner]

4D4 T Spirit Yaris + £20 unleaded petrol + five miles drive = Bad idea!

Q. How much to fix the damage?

Q. Could this remotely be covered by insurance?

Thanks.

[TheNissanMan]

sounds expensive, not a chance in hell on insurance...

diesel into petrol cost me £300

[Baby Yari]

4D4 T Spirit Yaris + £20 unleaded petrol + five miles drive = Bad idea!

Q. How much to fix the damage?

Q. Could this remotely be covered by insurance?

Thanks.

Was it a bit of a blonde moment then!? :D

[Demonic Angel]

Insurance - no chance!

Doesnt your little fuel door say "Diesel only"? Mine says "Unleaded fuel only" - not that I'd forget, never had a diesel!

Easy mistake to make matey, but a costly one probably....

[GT4 BOOSTER]

have the tank drained , or if you have a self primer pump it out yourself , put a new filter on and refill with derv , its the pressure inside the derv pump you need to be carefull of when its running on petrol.

a garage should charge about 40 quid to do it for you.

[armoredfist2002]

i'm sure they tried this on fifth gear the other week, and they said garages try to rip you off saying you need all sorts of work done, etc. when in fact all you need to do is drain the tank and fuel lines and change the fuel filter and fill it up with the right kind of fuel and it should run fine afterwards.

[SW_Yaris_Owner]

i'm sure they tried this on fifth gear the other week, and they said garages try to rip you off saying you need all sorts of work done, etc. when in fact all you need to do is drain the tank and fuel lines and change the fuel filter and fill it up with the right kind of fuel and it should run fine afterwards.

I've been told that this is OK for older diesels, but the common-rail engines are made to very high tolerences and fuel system components suffer when run on non-lubricating petrol as opposed to diesel.

The RAC chap said I could be looking at £1500 up, and so I'd appreciate any experiences before contacting the garages for quotes.

[jaxx]

common rail has been around since the 60's

id agree with the rest, ive seen it soretd out on 04 cars that have ran fine after and ever since

[SW_Yaris_Owner]

common rail has been around since the 60's

id agree with the rest, ive seen it soretd out on 04 cars that have ran fine after and ever since

Unfortunately, the car stopped running (I wasn't driving) and had to be recovered. Does this mean that damage has occured?

[GT4 BOOSTER]

well , start at the beginning and get the fuel out ,something that's got to be done anyways, fit a new filter and refill tank with derv , at the worst i recon the pump may of suffered damage , but ran on the correct fuel again it may or may not sort itself out,possible damage may cause side affects once its up and running - fingers crossed and good luck .

[jaxx]

agree with the above.....

5miles.... you may have got away with it.... maybe, as your aware the filthy gunk..... i mean diesel, lubricates the insides of various components. The problem with the pump is the seals will have ran dry with a 'solvent' i.e. petrol

oh and its D4D not 4D4 :P

[gump2000]

I AGREE WITH THE REST OF EM. DRAIN THE TANK, CHANGE THE FILTERS, PUT SOME FUEL SYSTEM CLEANER IN WITH THE NEW ''FULL TANK'' OF FUEL. WHEN YOU GO TO CRANK IT OVER CRACK THE FUEL INLET PIPE TO YOUR PUMP, KEEP CRANKING TILL YOU GET PURE CLEAN DIESEL THROUGH, THEN BEFORE YOUR FUEL RAIL TILL YOU GET FRESH THEN CRACK OFF EACH INJECTOR TILL YOU GET DIESEL, BY THIS TIME IT SHOULD'VE AT LEAST ATTEMPTED TO FIRE. DON'T FORGET TO NIP EVERYTHING BACK UP AFTER YOU GET FRESH DIESEL THROUGH. ONCE IT'S RUNNING FINE CHANGE YOUR FUEL FILTER AGAIN TO BE DOUBLEY SURE. SEE HOW YOU GO ON.

[Madasafish]

Hmm

High pressure system..opening injectors.

VERY dangerous imo. If you don't know what you are doing, you can end up with very high pressure diesel inected into your skin = much illness.

High pressure common rail diesels are NOT to be played with.

Talk of common rail being around since 1960s is true.. but NOT at current pressures.

You are dealing with aeroplane quality components. Are any of you qualified on high pressure systems to give advice?

Draining system and changing filter is as far as the average unskilled mechanic with no manual can go .

All other advice is imo potentially dangerous..and has no idea of the risks of damage to the car (which is likely) or yourself (which is a lot worse).

If it has been run with petrol, it is likely that the high pressure pump has seized or metal particles have found their way into the inejetcors. If so. you are looking at £££££S.

This is DEFINITELY a Toyota garage job.

I'm afraid some of the advice above. is life and wallet threatening.

[GT4 BOOSTER]

LIFE THREATENING you truely are mad as a fish .

[SW_Yaris_Owner]

Hmm

High pressure system..opening injectors.

VERY dangerous imo. If you don't know what you are doing, you can end up with very high pressure diesel inected into your skin = much illness.

High pressure common rail diesels are NOT to be played with.

I've worked with high pressure liquid systems and can echo the caution (if the pressures in a diesel Yaris are as high as hinted at.) You may not die, but you could loose an eye or two.

I've spoken to a couple of service mechanics at different Toyota dealerships who think it's worth cleaning through as the first step. If there are problems it may be pump renewal time.

I'm still interested in people's experience of costs - anyone?

[Madasafish]

High pressure diesel common rail systems run at around 1600 bar or 27,000psi..

That is enough to squirt a very fine jet through clothing, rubber gloves and skin into flesh or worse veins. And the prospect of diesel literally in the blood is not one I would wish on anyone.

Life threatening? I suspect you could easily do damage to heart , lungs and kidneys...

Petrol fuel pressure to the injectors may go as high as 70 PSI on some systems. As a comparison, older diesel injectors operated with only a few hundred PSI fuel pressure.

[seveer unaek]

How people make this mistake I'll never know! Had you had a drinky-poo's?? Over-tired??

Seriously... drain it, new filter, slap some diesel fuel injector cleaner stuff in it and re-fill with diesel. Then give it a go... if it doesn't work then it's main dealer im afraid... most garages won't bother touching it as they don't want to be liable for any further damage done.

You can try insurance company... some are forgiving as they know that with the increase of diesel sales then it's inevitable that there'll be plenty of dosey folk wrecking their cars!

[devon_guy]

I've done it, I'll admit it and despite other posts it is easy to do! Ignore all the scaremongering here, mine just required draining and filling with diesel and it was fine, and I drove about 5 miles with petrol in it before I noticed.

[earpl]

what gump said........

exactly!!!! theres nothing hard about it at all, i cleaned out a womans car in burton, pumped out the tank with my transfer pump in my van, cracked injectors off, and just kept cranking it. RAC talk bull, she offered to pay me for it but we settled on a bottle of water from the shop. it took 5 mins.............

as for people that put diesel in a petrol................... how??? it not possible, the nossle of a diesel pump is too bit to fit in a petrol tank??

[GT4 BOOSTER]

it fits in imports tanks earpl. so its possible.

i think people just daydream or are colourblind.

[snellgrove]

Easy mistake to make matey,

Not so sure myself

they colour code them!

then agian.. pride comes before afall ...i'll probably go do it next time I fill :P

[SW_Yaris_Owner]

sounds expensive, not a chance in hell on insurance...

diesel into petrol cost me £300

What work was carried out for the £300? Thanks.

[jaxx]

what gump said........

exactly!!!! theres nothing hard about it at all, i cleaned out a womans car in burton, pumped out the tank with my transfer pump in my van, cracked injectors off, and just kept cranking it. RAC talk bull, she offered to pay me for it but we settled on a bottle of water from the shop. it took 5 mins.............

as for people that put diesel in a petrol................... how??? it not possible, the nossle of a diesel pump is too bit to fit in a petrol tank??

well to follow on.... gump is one of the people who ive known to have sort the problem out!

but then he has put diesel in an xr2!

[Blue84]

Hmm, I work in Motor Insurance and the Company I work for has putting the wrong fuel into the engine listed as an exclusion to what it covers in the policy booklet so best way to confirm is get the booklet out, check which sections apply to your cover and double check for definate. I doubt it will be covered but that's what I'd do if I wasn't in the business ;)

[earpl]

where abouts in the west country are you mate? might be able to help.

i work in walsall