Wife Wants One?

[toyota rally]

wife is test driving one for two days as a test drive. anyone got any good or bad points

many thanks :D

[BadBoyVTEC]

Good points: It's fun to drive.

Bad Points: The back gets dirty easy.

People feel free to add to this.

[matty_aygo]

good points: cheap to run and insure and looks gr8, fantastic engine for its size.

bad points: very basic car especially on the inside, however at least they have designed it to be cheap instead of just building it cheaply.

Fantastic car for the price and running costs but if you've got more money to spend then there are better cars out there. obviously.

[toyota rally]

many thanks keep them coming, she picked it up today and it has to be back friday. shes liking it at the moment. then we will decided. passed the shopping test 7 bags

[Peter@Beoworld]

Have bought one for my wife and she loves it. She has a V6 Camry estate as well but wanted a car for around town. I bought the MMT version, which is great and specced it up so that it has everything that she wanted .

If I was being picky, the rear parcel shelf is very cheap and one bit of string is just mean! Storage is limited - I would consider the central arm rest that Peugeot do as it can hold some CDs but I wonder if it limits seat space. The rear bumper cover is also very thin and flexible - possibly an advantage!

But for the money, a lovely little car and much the nicest to look at of the three models IMHO.

[Angelicevil]

I love my Aygo. Very basic model and I was really just looking for a car to get me from A to B and frankly you cannot do any better than one of these nippy little numbers. Not only is it a cheap car to buy but it's cheap to run what with the road tax of only £40 a year, group 1 insurance and fantastic mpg. Boot doesn't look like much but I've managed to fit about £100 worth of groceries into mine so it's definitely a lot bigger than it looks.

Only downside I can find is that the poor Aygo's 1 litre 3 cylinder engine *really* does not like extremely steep hills. I found this out when attempting to drive my car up one of those ramps in a carpark trying to get on to the next level. Pedal to the floor and it only just about crawled up!

Oh and the radio antenna is kind of annoying me. It's going to whip someone about the head one of these days. I gotta get me one of those silly little weights on the end or buy a stubby antenna to replace it.

I've had mine just over 2 weeks and already I've given it a small dent on the side of mine My attempt at driving out of a tight underground parking space last weekend. *oops*

[PaulT]

Only downside I can find is that the poor Aygo's 1 litre 3 cylinder engine *really* does not like extremely steep hills. I found this out when attempting to drive my car up one of those ramps in a carpark trying to get on to the next level. Pedal to the floor and it only just about crawled up!

You're in the wrong gear :D Some twit in a Beemer overtook me going into one of those and even though I had passengers we stuck to him like glue up the incline. Needlessly so in fact

What I have found with hills is that if you need to reverse up a steep incline from stationary it is easy to burn the clutch because reverse gear is quite long. I don't seem to get the same problem going up in first, though.

Paul.

[Plusser]

Only downside I can find is that the poor Aygo's 1 litre 3 cylinder engine *really* does not like extremely steep hills. I found this out when attempting to drive my car up one of those ramps in a carpark trying to get on to the next level. Pedal to the floor and it only just about crawled up!

Many, if not all modern petrol engines suffer from this problem, which is mainly down to the fact that they now run so lean due to ever tighter emissions regulations, meaning that higher revs are required to car the car moving due to less torque. As a result, I tend to find myself stalling the Aygo, though I remember driving a 1.6 Pegueot 406 years ago that was far worse.

In fairness though I feel that the Aygo needs a six speed transsmission, as the jump from 1st to 2nd is far too steep (even though 1st is far too high), while the ratios for 3rd 4th and 5th are nicely spaced, allowing the full use of the VVTi system. Another reason for wanting a better transmission is that the gearshift of the current Aygo box leaves something to be desired, but nowhere as bad as the magic wand on a series 3 Land Rover.

Apart from the seats (which don't give much lateral support when cornering), I have nothing else to complain about my Aygo. The engine is willing, the handling is great (especially on country roads), fuel economy is fantastic and the basic specification means that the car gives you the bare essentials without all the fancy toys that you never really need/miss.

[tommygun]

Bad Points: The back gets dirty easy.

If you get a TTE-spoiler it will be a lot less caused by airstreams

[Angelicevil]

What I have found with hills is that if you need to reverse up a steep incline from stationary it is easy to burn the clutch because reverse gear is quite long. I don't seem to get the same problem going up in first, though.

Paul.

It's not too bad when I'm actually going up a hill itself when I'm already on the move there are quite a few particularly steep hills in Belfast, it's only when I'm crawling around a carpark at barely 5mph moving on to the ramp trying to get on to the next level that I have that problem. <_<

Speaking of Beemers...some b*****d in one nearly clipped me when he came around the corner taking up both lanes when I was still a good 5 feet away from the junction. Grrr! I've never liked them because anytime I was nearly knocked down it was always a Beemer!!

In fairness though I feel that the Aygo needs a six speed transsmission, as the jump from 1st to 2nd is far too steep (even though 1st is far too high), while the ratios for 3rd 4th and 5th are nicely spaced, allowing the full use of the VVTi system. Another reason for wanting a better transmission is that the gearshift of the current Aygo box leaves something to be desired, but nowhere as bad as the magic wand on a series 3 Land Rover.

Maybe it's my driving :P But I tend to ***** the car whenever moving from first to second a lot, one needs to be extremely gentle with release of the clutch during that change! Gear change is definitely a lot smoother when moving to higher gears.

[Everpain]

As I'm on my first car, and not quite up with the lingo, I'll try and explain my personal experiences with the Aygo gears:

1st gear is actually quite solid. You can get going pretty quickly, and it doesn't start to squeal (indicating that a change of gear would be prudent) until I hit 20mph. This is just as well because changing to 2nd drains away all semblance of power from the engine. If you're travelling any slower than 10mph in 2nd, get ready to stall. I don't seem to get any real acceleration in 2nd until past 25mph, leaving a 5mph gap that often takes a few seconds to push through. After that, it's fine, although the car isn't as happy driving at 35mph in 5th as I'd like, and it feels like it's going to stall in 5th if you wind up moving less than 30mph.

But then, I'm not an experienced driver, and the car only has 600 miles or so.

[Angelicevil]

As I'm on my first car, and not quite up with the lingo, I'll try and explain my personal experiences with the Aygo gears:

1st gear is actually quite solid. You can get going pretty quickly, and it doesn't start to squeal (indicating that a change of gear would be prudent) until I hit 20mph. This is just as well because changing to 2nd drains away all semblance of power from the engine. If you're travelling any slower than 10mph in 2nd, get ready to stall. I don't seem to get any real acceleration in 2nd until past 25mph, leaving a 5mph gap that often takes a few seconds to push through. After that, it's fine, although the car isn't as happy driving at 35mph in 5th as I'd like, and it feels like it's going to stall in 5th if you wind up moving less than 30mph.

But then, I'm not an experienced driver, and the car only has 600 miles or so.

(hmm it wouldn't let me type out j....e....r....k when trying to explain my gear change between first and second!!)

I wouldn't worry about the whole experience thing, it's been nearly 7 years since I got my licence and it's only three weeks ago that I got my Aygo and I've only done about just under 300 miles in it! Though it's amazing what you still remember after 7 years, it's like riding a bike, you really don't forget.

I didn't think you could get into fifth gear going at 35mph! I was always taught you can go into fourth once you hit about 40mph and then once you get to 45mph or 50mph then you can go into 5th. I always have the car shifted down or up to 3rd gear when around 30mph. In my car I found that I can sit in second gear in the lower speeds as long as I don't go below 15mph, at which point you're better off in first.

I suppose everyone has different driving styles and with so many different cars out there you do have to remember to adapt your driving style to the car you're driving as well.

[Everpain]

I think it's supposed to be more fuel efficient using the higher gears at lower speeds. Not sure if that's correct, but I'm trying to get every mpg I can.

[Angelicevil]

I think you may be thinking about "overdrive gears". Someone correct me on this but methinks it's an American or rear wheel drive thing where the highest gear in a car is used as the "overdrive" ie, once you're at the speed you will be driving at for a long period then you shift the car into that gear and it runs on a lower rpm.

Though you are theoretically right in that you should drive in the highest gear possible though 5th at 35mph I personally think is pushing it! :P

Probably the best thing for mpg is to just follow the speed limit and don't stop and start suddenly or accelerate/decelerate aggressively.

Well that was what I was taught. Might be different these days. My partner's learning to drive and he was telling me about this new rule that his instructor keeps enforcing when you're stopping behind another car at lights and it's that you have to be able to see their back tyres when you're stopped, the distance should not be so short that you cannot see their tyres. I was never taught that!

[BadBoyVTEC]

1st Gear: 35 mph

2nd Gear: 59 mph

3rd Gear: 84 mph

Is the max the car can do in each of those gears according to the manual (I think) and I usually use that to my advantage to gain speed if the need is there (since I don't have the Rev Counter yet).

[kenl]

I think it's supposed to be more fuel efficient using the higher gears at lower speeds. Not sure if that's correct, but I'm trying to get every mpg I can.

As long as you are not labouring the engine, yes.

[Peter@Beoworld]

I think you may be thinking about "overdrive gears". Someone correct me on this but methinks it's an American or rear wheel drive thing where the highest gear in a car is used as the "overdrive" ie, once you're at the speed you will be driving at for a long period then you shift the car into that gear and it runs on a lower rpm.

Though you are theoretically right in that you should drive in the highest gear possible though 5th at 35mph I personally think is pushing it! :P

Probably the best thing for mpg is to just follow the speed limit and don't stop and start suddenly or accelerate/decelerate aggressively.

Well that was what I was taught. Might be different these days. My partner's learning to drive and he was telling me about this new rule that his instructor keeps enforcing when you're stopping behind another car at lights and it's that you have to be able to see their back tyres when you're stopped, the distance should not be so short that you cannot see their tyres. I was never taught that!

Overdrive means a gear ratio that reduces the revs and saves fuel. The car's top speed will often be faster in the gear below. Many fifth gears are in fact overdrive gears. On my Triumph GT6, I have a separate overdrive control which works a second two speed gearbox. In the off position the drive is one to one but when switched on, it reduces the revs needed for any particular speed.

As far as the best gear for a speed, putting an engine in a position where it labours is not economic. In the Aygo, I would tend to agree that unless on the flat or down hill, 5th at 35 would be laboured. Quite tricky to get the MMT version to change automatically to fifth below 50 mph. The engine is fairly highly tuned so has a relatively narrow power band and so one has to change gear more than in a bigger engined car. In the MMT version, this is fun with the box in sequential mode!

[Angelicevil]

Overdrive means a gear ratio that reduces the revs and saves fuel. The car's top speed will often be faster in the gear below. Many fifth gears are in fact overdrive gears. On my Triumph GT6, I have a separate overdrive control which works a second two speed gearbox. In the off position the drive is one to one but when switched on, it reduces the revs needed for any particular speed.

As far as the best gear for a speed, putting an engine in a position where it labours is not economic. In the Aygo, I would tend to agree that unless on the flat or down hill, 5th at 35 would be laboured. Quite tricky to get the MMT version to change automatically to fifth below 50 mph. The engine is fairly highly tuned so has a relatively narrow power band and so one has to change gear more than in a bigger engined car. In the MMT version, this is fun with the box in sequential mode!

Thanks for clarifying that for me. :D

[Blue84]

In my 1.0L Yaris I had to take it up steep multi storey car park ramps every day and the key was to dip the clutch a tiny tiny bit and increase the revs to compensate for the small engine and the steepness of the hill. There's a Multi Storey in the local Town which has the steepest ramps I've ever seen and there you did have to apply a little bit more revs - not so that it starts screaming at you as it doesnt do the engine any good and any other shoppers will give you dirty looks normally .

The 1.3 doesn't need anything apart from gas when you get to the very top and have to swing round the corner..however I also found that as a newish driver when I had the 1.0L I was worrying about the space next to me on the ramp and around the corners going onto and leaving the ramp, that there could be cars parking in spaces at the top of the ramp (just round the corner) so you have to be aware for that and also you want to look for a space too so there is a lot to think about. When you are used to it it's not so bad and does become easier.

Just my thoughts ;)

[Angelicevil]

In my 1.0L Yaris I had to take it up steep multi storey car park ramps every day and the key was to dip the clutch a tiny tiny bit and increase the revs to compensate for the small engine and the steepness of the hill. There's a Multi Storey in the local Town which has the steepest ramps I've ever seen and there you did have to apply a little bit more revs - not so that it starts screaming at you as it doesnt do the engine any good and any other shoppers will give you dirty looks normally .

The 1.3 doesn't need anything apart from gas when you get to the very top and have to swing round the corner..however I also found that as a newish driver when I had the 1.0L I was worrying about the space next to me on the ramp and around the corners going onto and leaving the ramp, that there could be cars parking in spaces at the top of the ramp (just round the corner) so you have to be aware for that and also you want to look for a space too so there is a lot to think about. When you are used to it it's not so bad and does become easier.

Just my thoughts ;)

Cool. Thanks for that, unfortunately I haven't had much experience in driving in multi-story car parks so it's always nice to see how others do it.

Thank you! :)

[PaulT]

Cool. Thanks for that, unfortunately I haven't had much experience in driving in multi-story car parks so it's always nice to see how others do it.

Just have to get in the right frame of mind

Paul.

[Blue84]

Cool. Thanks for that, unfortunately I haven't had much experience in driving in multi-story car parks so it's always nice to see how others do it.

Thank you! :)

No problems, I'm glad you could make sense of it I've only got used to it as I use one every day I'm in work - have to go right to the top of it

[Angelicevil]

Just have to get in the right frame of mind

Paul.

:D My poor Aygo I think has suffered enough at my hands (or should that be feet?) the first week or so I got my car since I was trying to remember all my driving skills after not driving for nearly 7 years!

[peugeot107?]

Cool. Thanks for that, unfortunately I haven't had much experience in driving in multi-story car parks so it's always nice to see how others do it.

Thank you! :)

No problems, I'm glad you could make sense of it I've only got used to it as I use one every day I'm in work - have to go right to the top of it

Spent a week in an apartment in Mars eille where the car park went four storeys down under the building, which was really spooky, was n't that far from the beach either.

That's my experince of multi-storeys anyhow, as I am a country bumpkin. :)

When you type Mars eille as one word you get Mubikille what's that all about?

[BadBoyVTEC]

Mubikille

&#33;Removed&#33; hell your absolutley right. How weird!