Gt Mod ?

[me&mygt]

Does anyone know about superchipping or remapping? This may be a dumb question but are they the same thing? What kind of results can be expected from having any of these done? Are their pros and cons etc? Is there a bad,good and great chip that can be used?

Thx Guys

Paul

[Fizz]

In all honesty there aint much use to that on the 3SGE.

What are you wanting from the car? More power?

Whats your budget?

[manphibian]

Does anyone know about superchipping or remapping? This may be a dumb question but are they the same thing? What kind of results can be expected from having any of these done? Are their pros and cons etc? Is there a bad,good and great chip that can be used?

Thx Guys

Paul

I looked into this a while ago, when you got past all the bold claims on the websites, i think you could only expect about +5 bhp for the GT at a cost of about £300

if it's more power you want without spending thousands, about all you can do is:

s/s high-flow exhaust

TRD or similar panel filter, drill few holes in the bottom of the airbox

De-Cat pipe

or maybe take the back seats out and strip it to lose some weight :P

[chris202]

Does anyone know about superchipping or remapping? This may be a dumb question but are they the same thing? What kind of results can be expected from having any of these done? Are their pros and cons etc? Is there a bad,good and great chip that can be used?

Thx Guys

Paul

I looked into this a while ago, when you got past all the bold claims on the websites, i think you could only expect about +5 bhp for the GT at a cost of about £300

if it's more power you want without spending thousands, about all you can do is:

s/s high-flow exhaust

TRD or similar panel filter, drill few holes in the bottom of the airbox

De-Cat pipe

or maybe take the back seats out and strip it to lose some weight :P

Nos maybe , not my cup of tea but good gains .

And after that s/c or turbo really but your gonna need a few ££'s for that !

[manphibian]

Does anyone know about superchipping or remapping? This may be a dumb question but are they the same thing? What kind of results can be expected from having any of these done? Are their pros and cons etc? Is there a bad,good and great chip that can be used?

Thx Guys

Paul

I looked into this a while ago, when you got past all the bold claims on the websites, i think you could only expect about +5 bhp for the GT at a cost of about £300

if it's more power you want without spending thousands, about all you can do is:

s/s high-flow exhaust

TRD or similar panel filter, drill few holes in the bottom of the airbox

De-Cat pipe

or maybe take the back seats out and strip it to lose some weight :P

Nos maybe , not my cup of tea but good gains .

And after that s/c or turbo really but your gonna need a few ££'s for that !

Yep, true, you can get a full nitrous kit for about £350 not sure how much to fit it, but if you're talkin horse power per £ it doesn't get much more dramatic.

DOOOOO IT

[me&mygt]

Thx. I just had a powerflow custom s/s sytem installed today. I now have K & N filter and air induction kit. thats about it. Cost for remap is 285 pounds. Is the money best spent elsewhere to improve low down performance. thats about all i'm wanting is some performance at low end speed.

Cheers

[Jones~32]

Cost for remap is 285 pounds. Is the money best spent elsewhere to improve low down performance. thats about all i'm wanting is some performance at low end speed.

I think remaps do free up bottom end torque, more so than BHP, so you could get some benefits throughout the range - Just dont expect massive BHP gains ;)

[me&mygt]

suppose i want to be able to put my foot on the gas and know that the car will respond to that. At the moment there is quite a bit of lag there. That's what i am after, not necessarily to be forced back in the seat but more of a reponse straight away from the throttle. I'm off to Well Lane Turbo centre who are apparently experts in the area of superchips and remapping. I will keep posted on the outcome. The s/s is awesome

[Leeky]

In all honesty i would say trying to tune the 3SGE is a waste of money. No offence but its best as it is.

You could decat, freeflow exhaust, superchips, cams and gears, blueprint, balance and gasflow the lump.....and you'll be lucky to see 200 ponys.

If you want more power upgrade to an SS3 or GT4 or something with a bigger engine ;) When ST205's can be had now from as little as 3k there is no excuse not to

[me&mygt]

OOOOPs..... did he say what i thought he said.

[Special Red]

Buy a GT4! LMAO

[adamgt]

Buy a GT4! LMAO

:lol2:

on a serious note. If i was to modify the performance on a GT.. this is what i would do

-Enclosed induction kit with cool air feed e.g. BMC CDA

-Exhaust with Decat, maybe manifold depending on price

-50hp shot of NOS

Thats all i would bother with. other stuff not really big enough gain per £ to make it worth doing ;)

[me&mygt]

Thx, Good stuff. Just a thought. When the s/s was fitted the engineer informed me if i was have the decat then it would trip the ecu and it would have to be remapped. This i knew already. He then informed me that it wouldn't pass emissions for MOT so he would be able to fit it so a cat could be sleeved in at MOT time and then could be removed afterwards. He said the downside was that every year when the changeover was done it would trip the ecu and have to be remapped at 285 quid a year. Does this sound right? anyone experienced this before? Whats the deal with the nos, is it expensive to upkeep?

cheers

[Dan_Q]

mmm TBH i reakon just a decat would not stop your car from running, it just wouldnt run as well as the state of tune when it was mapped. So for a trip to the MOT station once a year I can't see there being a problem. If your engine was cammed up or other major mods were being removed for the MOT then yes i could understand it.

which remappable chip do you intend to run BTW?

I'm not that up on them, but AFAIK the only "superchip" model I know of for the celica GT is the ICON, which is an ignition controller, so this leaves fuelling as standard. It can just remap the advance / !Removed! curve through the rev range and thats it. It does remove flatspots though, and it does run a bit smoother through the revs, but itsnot that noticable.

If you have a gen 6 I think that dastek do a uni chip for them, but i'm not sure- think I have heard of it in the past.

For a piggy back fuel controller, APEXi units can be good value.

Let us know what you decide / have done, i'll be interested to know

[chris202]

I've a straight thru de-cat s/s exhaust and its just fine , passed its mot too .

[Special Red]

I've a straight thru de-cat s/s exhaust and its just fine , passed its mot too .

That must be one dodgy Test centre!! say that due to the fact its illegal from K reg onwards. Also invalidates insurance! but is it worth it thats the question

[chris202]

probarly not

[yellowchinaman]

I've a straight thru de-cat s/s exhaust and its just fine , passed its mot too .

That's true. Did my MOT last week and it failed because i had no cat. If you want thing make sure you have a section cut out so that you can reinstall your old cat again for MOT.

[chris202]

I've a straight thru de-cat s/s exhaust and its just fine , passed its mot too .

That's true. Did my MOT last week and it failed because i had no cat. If you want thing make sure you have a section cut out so that you can reinstall your old cat again for MOT.

I never doubted it however mine still passed its mot without a cat

[adamgt]

mine still passed its mot without a cat

so did mine

;) ;)

[Sketchy]

Just out of interest has anyone every tried throttle bodies on the 3s-ge. If it's responsiveness you after that would be the way i'd go on a N/A engine.

Not cheap mind as you'd need an new ecu to run it with, but does make a big difference both to the power and response of the engine.

They get used alot on Rover K-series engines over 200BHP and from a 1.8 that aint to be sniffed at, also work well on pug mi16's etc.

Just a thought...

[Kevstir]

There was a guy on celica-club that had a ss exhaust and k&n 57i induction kit , he went and got a dastek unichip installed , he got 187bhp which doesnt sound like a good gain but at 5000 rpm there was a 13bhp increase and a good increase in torque , he said the car was like night and day due to the improvments from low revs right round to the red line

heres the post if anyones interested

http://www.celica-club.info/forum/index.ph...6&hl=dastek

[me&mygt]

Great. That sounds promising. I have the s/s exhaust, k&n 57 filter and induction, Nology leads, Iridium plugs and it's booked in for friday for complete remap using dastek. Hope it has some impact on my low end. Will keep ya posted.

[Dan_Q]

good result that :D

mine put out 5 BHP more than standard (159) which also doesnt sound like much, thats just with a base map ICON, 57i and a mongoose exhaust and decat.

Also 133,000 miles on the clock at the time.