Remote Ignition And Turbo Timers

[yellowchinaman]

Hi All

I've been researching into a few car alarms.

I'm a current user of a remote start car alarm whichwarms my car up. Brilliant for winter times! But my car is a non turbo but still I hate driving when cold.

As you know I'm on the hunt for a 205. I see a lot with Turbo timers to allow the Turbo settle down properly before killing the engine.

What I've found is that with turbo timers is that you can't add a remote ingition car alarm! That suck becasue I love my remote start and a turbo timer is needed too becasue a proper cool down is just as important as a proper warm up for a turbo.

I couldn't find many alarms with remote ignition and turbo timer in one too.

So what would you choose if you was me?

An alarm which helps a proper warm up first? Which means I'll have to sit in the car for about 5 mins to warm down but ONLY if I've driven hard.

Or an alarm which will cool down the car properly but would mean I'll have to freexe my ***** off in the car during winter waiting for it to warm up?

Which would you go for?

[Sketchy]

Hi All

I've been researching into a few car alarms.

I'm a current user of a remote start car alarm whichwarms my car up. Brilliant for winter times! But my car is a non turbo but still I hate driving when cold.

As you know I'm on the hunt for a 205. I see a lot with Turbo timers to allow the Turbo settle down properly before killing the engine.

What I've found is that with turbo timers is that you can't add a remote ingition car alarm! That suck becasue I love my remote start and a turbo timer is needed too becasue a proper cool down is just as important as a proper warm up for a turbo.

I couldn't find many alarms with remote ignition and turbo timer in one too.

So what would you choose if you was me?

An alarm which helps a proper warm up first? Which means I'll have to sit in the car for about 5 mins to warm down but ONLY if I've driven hard.

Or an alarm which will cool down the car properly but would mean I'll have to freexe my ***** off in the car during winter waiting for it to warm up?

Which would you go for?

Or get a Clifford Concept and have both controlled by the alarm

On another note you could always stop being lazy and do it yourself, if your in that much of a rush to get out of your car that you can't spend 2 minutes in it waiting for the engine to cool down then you just don't love it enough :P :D

[yellowchinaman]

Hi All

I've been researching into a few car alarms.

I'm a current user of a remote start car alarm whichwarms my car up. Brilliant for winter times! But my car is a non turbo but still I hate driving when cold.

As you know I'm on the hunt for a 205. I see a lot with Turbo timers to allow the Turbo settle down properly before killing the engine.

What I've found is that with turbo timers is that you can't add a remote ingition car alarm! That suck becasue I love my remote start and a turbo timer is needed too becasue a proper cool down is just as important as a proper warm up for a turbo.

I couldn't find many alarms with remote ignition and turbo timer in one too.

So what would you choose if you was me?

An alarm which helps a proper warm up first? Which means I'll have to sit in the car for about 5 mins to warm down but ONLY if I've driven hard.

Or an alarm which will cool down the car properly but would mean I'll have to freexe my ***** off in the car during winter waiting for it to warm up?

Which would you go for?

Or get a Clifford Concept and have both controlled by the alarm

On another note you could always stop being lazy and do it yourself, if your in that much of a rush to get out of your car that you can't spend 2 minutes in it waiting for the engine to cool down then you just don't love it enough :P :D

True. But is 2 minutes realy enough for the Turbo to cool down? And theses days it's taking about 10 minutes plus for the car to warm up properly.

If so then I have enough love for 2 minutes. Clifford Concept looks good. Very pricy though.

[Jones~32]

2 minutes is more than enough mate, the manual that comes with the 205 states to wait for 2 minutes after racing on a circuit

[adamgt]

why do you think you cant get engine start and turbo timer?

I have a 2 in 1 unit that is a turbo timer and remote engine start... although i dont know how to use the thing as its all in Jap and i cant find instructions for it.

[Jones~32]

although i dont know how to use the thing as its all in Jap and i cant find instructions for it.

[Sketchy]

Hi All

I've been researching into a few car alarms.

I'm a current user of a remote start car alarm whichwarms my car up. Brilliant for winter times! But my car is a non turbo but still I hate driving when cold.

As you know I'm on the hunt for a 205. I see a lot with Turbo timers to allow the Turbo settle down properly before killing the engine.

What I've found is that with turbo timers is that you can't add a remote ingition car alarm! That suck becasue I love my remote start and a turbo timer is needed too becasue a proper cool down is just as important as a proper warm up for a turbo.

I couldn't find many alarms with remote ignition and turbo timer in one too.

So what would you choose if you was me?

An alarm which helps a proper warm up first? Which means I'll have to sit in the car for about 5 mins to warm down but ONLY if I've driven hard.

Or an alarm which will cool down the car properly but would mean I'll have to freexe my ***** off in the car during winter waiting for it to warm up?

Which would you go for?

Or get a Clifford Concept and have both controlled by the alarm

On another note you could always stop being lazy and do it yourself, if your in that much of a rush to get out of your car that you can't spend 2 minutes in it waiting for the engine to cool down then you just don't love it enough :P :D

True. But is 2 minutes realy enough for the Turbo to cool down? And theses days it's taking about 10 minutes plus for the car to warm up properly.

If so then I have enough love for 2 minutes. Clifford Concept looks good. Very pricy though.

Yes 2 minutes is enough for it to cool down a resonable amount.

On top of this as yet I have never been driving my car like a loon up to the point I stop.

In the real world there's always going to be a period of time where you looking for a space in the car park, parking, driving in traffic, driving in a 30 MPH limit etc etc. During all of these times you engine will be cooling and probably more effectively than when sat idealing due to the increased airflow through the engine bay.

[yellowchinaman]

You make me laugh Adam.

I didn't find anything whilst searching online and it's not until Sketchy mentioned Clifford that that I could find something.

I see a few 2 ways from china that has both remote start and turbo timer but I'm not quite convinced that they're reliable.

Sketchy you have a good point about the real world.

I don't think I'm the type of person who drives like a loony too and I also live in London where I do more breaking then accelerating.

I always thought that cooling down needs much more time.

So how many of you have turbo timers and actually use it?

Sounds like for the common person who doesn't redlines hours on ends has no use for a turbo timer? But then again we all know that the car needs to be warmed up properly even if you don't drive it hard.

So is it safe to say remote start over turbo timer?

[Sketchy]

You make me laugh Adam.

I didn't find anything whilst searching online and it's not until Sketchy mentioned Clifford that that I could find something.

I see a few 2 ways from china that has both remote start and turbo timer but I'm not quite convinced that they're reliable.

Sketchy you have a good point about the real world.

I don't think I'm the type of person who drives like a loony too and I also live in London where I do more breaking then accelerating.

I always thought that cooling down needs much more time.

So how many of you have turbo timers and actually use it?

Sounds like for the common person who doesn't redlines hours on ends has no use for a turbo timer? But then again we all know that the car needs to be warmed up properly even if you don't drive it hard.

So is it safe to say remote start over turbo timer?

Ok I think a bit of explanation is in order here as to why turbo cars need to be allowed to cool.

As we all know a turbo is driven by exhaust gases, these are pretty hot which in turn make the turbo pretty hot, Ever looked under the bonett of a turbo car at night after a good run :D

When you turn of the engine the water and more importantly for a turbo the oil flow both stop as the pump for both of these engine bloodlines are driven by belts from the crankshaft.

The oil is normally feed into a turbo to lubricate the bearing, if the flow stops when the turbo is hot the oil that is in the turbo oil ways becomes stationary and if your turbo hasn't sufficiently cooled down the oil will start to cook and burnt forming a hard layer round the oilways. This reduces the diameter of the oilway and overtime will constrict the oilflow into the turbo until eventually the oilway will become completely blocked.

At this point the bearing will not be getting any oil and will start to wear out VERY quickly, remember a turbo on boost is spinning at about 100,000RPM

once the bearing go you turbo is basically stuffed and shaft will either seize or develop major play will will result in blade/housing contact which results in very empty pockets after the compress feeds itself to the engine, last time I check internal combustion engines don't take very kindly to having chuncks of metal sent throught them...

So there you go that's why you need to let a turbo cool down. Now to put it into persective a running engine that is off boost will produce about the same exhaust gas temp as an idling engine and hence the turbo will be running at the same temperature. Also the engine water temp will be lower thanks to the constant airflow through the radiator again helping to keep things chilled. This, plus the fact that a nice flow of air through the engine bay from a moving car will assist in keeping things cool, means you end up being better of ensuring you drive off boost for the last few miles of a jouney than canning it all the way then letting the car idle for half an hour afterward.

So there you go in summation remote engine start is cool and good for scaring people NightRider stylee, but turbotimers are for people who either a) have no mechanical simpaty B) Are just very lazy c) Have to much money and can afford turbo rebuilds every five minutes.

That plus the fact that it's technically illegal to leave an engine running with nobody in the car on her majesty's highways and can invalidate your insurance if used and yes I do know people that have been done by the rozzers for this.

Oh and no I don't have one incase you hadn't already guessed :)

[adamgt]

i would say a turbo timer isnt really needed. if you really have been hammering it then just let it cool down for 30 seconds before u turn it off.... or evern easier, drive off boost for the last couple of minutes before you reach your house, then no need to let it cool ;)

[Jones~32]

My 4 had a turbo timer when i bought it, then when I had my alarm fitted, the guy ripped it out

"The insurance will hit you for having that"

Takes at least a minute to drive down the housing estate anyway so its got enough time to cool :)

IMO it isn't needed

but I do have one if anyone wants to buy it!!

[adamgt]

good sales technique mike

[Jones~32]

good sales technique mike

just thought i'd add that in :P

[yellowchinaman]

IMO it isn't needed

Yep! good contradiction