3sgte In To A Ae102

[john905]

hello there i have a 97 corolla si and was thinking abouth doing this conversion has any one done anything like this or have and information on doing so please thankyou

[jerry phipps]

Hello mate

Your best bet is to have a look at one of our member called Dawsey He has done that conversion in his corolla. Heres his link to his page

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/lee.dawes/

jerry!!

[john905]

cheers mate will do

[dawesy]

hope you have deep pockets

replied to your mail bud hope it helps

[Smølfen]

It would be awesome to put the 3SGTE into a E10 Corolla.

However, what's the use? Why use that engine?

It would be far easier to go for the Silvertop and turbocharge it.

The output will be about the same - for a lower cost.

Unless of course you want to go over 550hp - then the 3SGTE is the only choice...

I doubt you can fit a 2JZ-GTE into a Corolla

Second, the 3SGTE is heavier than the Silvertop - and weight = loss of speed ;)

I see only one reason to choose the 3SGTE over the Silvertop, that would be the respect.

I have far more respect for a guy which completes the installation of a 3SGTE into the A-sockets, than i have for a guy fitting the 4AGE into the A-sockets ;)

I would go for the turbocharged Silvertop ;)

Easier, more secure, and cheaper choice !

[Zipcode]

This is a very interesting thread. Why? Becouse i have a 1.6 si , 96 model....which is in progress of having a 3sgte conversion done. As dawesy said...I hope you have deep pockets! So far , my coilovers and breaks have cost me close on £2000, and they are not even fitted yet. I think to get a desent sdetup you need about 6k at least.

Dawesy. I 'd really like to chat about a few things about this conversion. I'll PM ya.

[E834FPB]

keep us posted on yer conversions boys, very interesting.

And go 3sgte all the way st205 model engine,

would be very quick at standard form in a corolla,

some say fwd is a disaster for such power bullsh** i got a quick spin in the ex fensport gxi turbo corolla in the wet and it was frightening fast, probably the fastest spin i ever got an would eat type r imprezas, evo 6's, p1's, etc.

20valves are quick but turboing them would be messy and wouldn't be that cheap and would they reliable after?

3sgte into a 1999 ae111 white 3dr corolla, tte kit, white wheels, motec, 6pots etc. now that would be nice..

[Zipcode]

keep us posted on yer conversions boys, very interesting.

And go 3sgte all the way st205 model engine,

would be very quick at standard form in a corolla,

some say fwd is a disaster for such power bullsh** i got a quick spin in the ex fensport gxi turbo corolla in the wet and it was frightening fast, probably the fastest spin i ever got an would eat type r imprezas, evo 6's, p1's, etc.

20valves are quick but turboing them would be messy and wouldn't be that cheap and would they reliable after?

3sgte into a 1999 ae111 white 3dr corolla, tte kit, white wheels, motec, 6pots etc. now that would be nice..

I might start my own WIP of my car! Should know within the next few days whether or not i got my engine :)

[dawesy]

' with great power comes control' heard that somewhere

would love to see how long a silvertop will last at 300bhp!!! whereas a 3S will churn that out day after day and still be reliable.also the cost would be similar to putting a 3S in anyway

weight is an issue however. i had mine on the weighbridge and it weighs in at 1080KG, that's stripped inside bar dash, door cards and carbon race seats!!

the weight of a std GTi is about 1020KG!! weight distribution is shot, you can lift a back wheel off the ground by hand! but the rush of power from a 3S-GTE makes it worthwhile.

you just need to pay attention to the suspension

[Zipcode]

Dawesy, you got PM. I'm really interested in your Conversion. And am busy planning the last bits of mine. Would really like to chat just to speak to someone who has been there done that!

[dawesy]

you coming to JAE?

if you are bring a camera and a notepad and ask away

there are a couple of bits i have changed since i first did the conversion, but that's all down to experience

[Zipcode]

you coming to JAE?

if you are bring a camera and a notepad and ask away

there are a couple of bits i have changed since i first did the conversion, but that's all down to experience

When is JAE?? If i can make it...I will be there!

[dawesy]

week on sat (20th>22nd july) east of england showground peterborough)

[corollafx]

This is a very interesting thread. Why? Becouse i have a 1.6 si , 96 model....which is in progress of having a 3sgte conversion done. As dawesy said...I hope you have deep pockets! So far , my coilovers and breaks have cost me close on £2000, and they are not even fitted yet. I think to get a desent sdetup you need about 6k at least.

Dawesy. I 'd really like to chat about a few things about this conversion. I'll PM ya.

Hi, this is a very interesting post right enough, i didn't think there was so many people into the 3s-gte conversion

What are the breaks you have fitted on the si are they from the 20valve? i find it odd that you chose the model without rear discs as standard (Well im assuming your car doesn't as i beleive the abs models where only available in 1997 for the si)

I have a 1.8 gxi as a base car and i am currently fitting the 3s-gte engine in, yet to sort out the breaks and not 100% sure on what to go for. ANy other ideas?

[Zipcode]

This is a very interesting thread. Why? Becouse i have a 1.6 si , 96 model....which is in progress of having a 3sgte conversion done. As dawesy said...I hope you have deep pockets! So far , my coilovers and breaks have cost me close on £2000, and they are not even fitted yet. I think to get a desent sdetup you need about 6k at least.

Dawesy. I 'd really like to chat about a few things about this conversion. I'll PM ya.

Hi, this is a very interesting post right enough, i didn't think there was so many people into the 3s-gte conversion

What are the breaks you have fitted on the si are they from the 20valve? i find it odd that you chose the model without rear discs as standard (Well im assuming your car doesn't as i beleive the abs models where only available in 1997 for the si)

I have a 1.8 gxi as a base car and i am currently fitting the 3s-gte engine in, yet to sort out the breaks and not 100% sure on what to go for. ANy other ideas?

Hey pal. Well i chose the car cos it was cheap and my firts car (and only car) i bought in the UK. I never thought i would go this far into modifying it that rear drums would be an issue really.

My new breaks are not off another car. I'v gone another route and after alot of thinking i chose to go with some 8pot calipers and 330mm discs. (name to be revealed when i upload my WIP)

The drums are being replaced with my front discs and calipers. I'd like to get a abs controller to go on my car though. Would be quite nice :)

I personally think you should sort the syspension and breaks out before your conversion, while you still have some funds :)

[dawesy]

I personally think you should sort the syspension and breaks out before your conversion, while you still have some funds :)

ahh some one with sense . alsthough the 8 pots may be overkill (i have 6 pots with 335mm discs and now the car is stripped it its overbraked)

[Zipcode]

I personally think you should sort the syspension and breaks out before your conversion, while you still have some funds :)

ahh some one with sense . alsthough the 8 pots may be overkill (i have 6 pots with 335mm discs and now the car is stripped it its overbraked)

Yeah, i think the 8pots could be a little OTT. BUt your motor is striped Dawesy, i got 3 amps, 2x 12" subs, full custom install, door builds, and some other bits. I little more weght than your i think :)

Also it was a price thing. It was going to cost me 150 quid less to have set of 6pot brembo's customised to fit, and they were second hand/refurbished.

So 8 pots was the next best thing.........and they look the tits

[corollafx]

I personally think you should sort the syspension and breaks out before your conversion, while you still have some funds :)

ahh some one with sense . alsthough the 8 pots may be overkill (i have 6 pots with 335mm discs and now the car is stripped it its overbraked)

Yeah, i think the 8pots could be a little OTT. BUt your motor is striped Dawesy, i got 3 amps, 2x 12" subs, full custom install, door builds, and some other bits. I little more weght than your i think :)

Also it was a price thing. It was going to cost me 150 quid less to have set of 6pot brembo's customised to fit, and they were second hand/refurbished.

So 8 pots was the next best thing.........and they look the !Removed!

Your probably right, i wasn't intending on driving the beast until everything is how i want it

Can i ask what you mean by "overbreaked"

Where did you get the 335mm discs and 6 pot calipers from, who makes them and how much?

[Zipcode]

I think what he is trying to say is that he has never used the full potential of his breaks.

Dawesy is using some very nice "HiSpec" callipers. I'm not sure what discs they are.....but i would expect your looking in the region of around 1k for the full setup.

Here is a handy link :)

http://www.rimstyle.com/pages/products/pro...674;id=MON6-175

[Jones~32]

I was playing with the idea of swapping the engine in my GXI when I had it... although the potential cost scared me well off that idea

I ended up goin for a GT4, but still think a 3S-GTE in an AE102 would rock! If you got the money, go for it... and get some pics up of the build!!

[Zipcode]

I was playing with the idea of swapping the engine in my GXI when I had it... although the potential cost scared me well off that idea

I ended up goin for a GT4, but still think a 3S-GTE in an AE102 would rock! If you got the money, go for it... and get some pics up of the build!!

I think a 3sgte conversion into any car is indeed an expensive task :)

As soon as my build start i'll start posting some pics up.

[corollafx]

Dawesy I love the twiny, that thing must be rapid, i guess it's probably one of the quickest things on the road!!

Whats it doing 0 - 60 in and 1/4 mile etc..

[dawesy]

Dawesy I love the twiny, that thing must be rapid, i guess it's probably one of the quickest things on the road!!

Whats it doing 0 - 60 in and 1/4 mile etc..

still sorting traction issues ATM but 1/4 times should be low 12's high 11's once ive sorted a few bits.

0-60 is about 4 secs and 0-100 is about 9 secs. will get em measured properly one day. top end is about 180mph already seen 165 and it was still pulling

[Zipcode]

Dawesy I love the twiny, that thing must be rapid, i guess it's probably one of the quickest things on the road!!

Whats it doing 0 - 60 in and 1/4 mile etc..

still sorting traction issues ATM but 1/4 times should be low 12's high 11's once ive sorted a few bits.

0-60 is about 4 secs and 0-100 is about 9 secs. will get em measured properly one day. top end is about 180mph already seen 165 and it was still pulling

Dawesy : What are you doing to help with traction. I have justjust recieved a quote to convert to rear wheel drive :) BUT it's a "little" over my budget!!

So instead i'm going with a LSD setup. Do you think the LSD setups are worth it?

[dawesy]

you defo need an LSD or you wont live with the torque steer. make sure you get the viscous (or helical type) as the plate type LSD's are a little too severe in a FWD.

on the front im running 235/40/17 A048's wich just about cope. also sorting out the mapping for gear dependant boost and launch/ traction control.

for the strip i will be using solid struts on the rear with an extra 25-30mm of hight to push the nose down and to get a bragging time some M&H wrinkle wall drag tyres.

even so wheel spin is still an issue but you will learn to drive differently, instead of mashing the throttle you learn to progressively apply the throttle etc.