One Star Or Five Stars?

[T V O R]

What a difference 10 years makes in car safety performance. Both the following tests are at 40mph.

The Rover Metro has a 1* NCAP rating and a big fat ZERO score. The Metro folds like a tin can, jumps feet into the air and ensures possible death. Check out the aerial view and the deformity into the driver’s compartment.

Metro... Click

The new Yaris on the other hand has a 5* rating and a score of 34 points.

The results in my opinion are very chilling.

The more I look at the Metro as it hits the target, the more damage I see to the passenger and the vehicle itself.

Your choice of car could mean the difference between surviving a crash and walking away... or receiving life threatening injuries and possible death.

Yaris... Click

Another Supermini with super human strength...

Corsa... Click

[Demonic Angel]

Safety is absolute paramount in me choosing a car - it was before I bought my 1st Yaris and it still is today.... even more so today!

Looking at the video of the Rover sent a chill down my spine

[T V O R]

Looking at the video of the Rover sent a chill down my spine

If you was in that Metro, that WOULD be the last thing you felt down your spine :(

[Baby Yari]

Makes me laugh the way the Metro has an air bag, but when it goes off it does sod all to stop the dummy from smashing into the dash, brilliant!

It's scary to see how far technology has come in just a few years

[T V O R]

the Metro has an air bag, but when it goes off it does sod all to stop the dummy from smashing into the dash,

Just noticed that myself to. The steering wheel complete with airbag decides to do a runner towards the passenger side. It totally misses the driver.

I’d rather get the bus!

[Baby Yari]

the Metro has an air bag, but when it goes off it does sod all to stop the dummy from smashing into the dash,

Just noticed that myself to. The steering wheel complete with airbag decides to do a runner towards the passenger side. It totally misses the driver.

I’d rather get the bus!

I think I'd join ya!

My brother had a Metro for his first car back in 2002, had my dad seen that vid I firmly believe he wouldn't of bought it for him!

[DaveSR]

What scares me most is that the crashes are at 40MPH ...... never thought it would be that bad :o

[Boro Sera]

My car failed EU rollover tests AND it's roof is virtually all glass !

I used to drive Mini's ( the proper ones that would shunt the engine into your knees if you crashed )!

I ride Motorbikes !

It would appear that safety isn't really at the top of my list :(

[T V O R]

What scares me most is that the crashes are at 40MPH ...... never thought it would be that bad :o

Imagine hitting another vehicle coming the other way also doing 40mph, or even 30mph :(

[Jinxed]

Imagine hitting another vehicle coming the other way also doing 40mph, or even 30mph :(

and this for me is what I always tend to think about..... combined impact speeds not just 'if you hit something static' at yada yada 30/40mph.

dont really care what car it is. If 2 moving cars hit head on at any kind of sensible road speeds..... chances are someones sustained very serious injuries or died I reckon.

[Ed_Shek]

That is scary! Glad I never brought a Metro!

[Parts-King]

Safety is absolute paramount in me choosing a car - it was before I bought my 1st Yaris and it still is today.... even more so today!

Looking at the video of the Rover sent a chill down my spine

Obviously being in "The Job" I get to see all sorts! I subscribe to the Euro Ncap results and some of the vehicles produced are without doubt exceedingly robust, including many Toyota's. When the first Yaris came out, a young professional customer of ours (not a boy/girl racer) had an accident, hit the central barrier, bounced off it, rolled over several times, and ended up in a ditch. The car was a write off, the injuries?? a couple of scratches to the back of a hand caused by flying glass. The family were so pleased with the Yaris' performance in that accident, that they bought a new one, plus an additional family Toyota. All turned out well in the end for everybody, Euro Ncap is a valuable service which has made manufacturers more safety concious. Cheers Kingo

[T V O R]

Euro Ncap is a valuable service which has made manufacturers more safety concious.

Apart from China... that has produced a new saloon for the European market called the Brilliance BS6 priced around £15k. (I won’t make any jokes about cheap Chinese imported goods... BUT) It’s competing with the Mondeo size class.

Unfortunately there is nothing ‘Brilliant’ about it. China doesn’t have anything like the European New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP) like we do as these results show:

Keep in mind this is only at 40mph!!

Please wait a few seconds for Video to load!

Check out the drivers head v dash board , also the floor and roof just fold and the driver's door detaches from the car body.

Give me a 5* Supermini any day

[Jinxed]

Give me a 5* Supermini any day

if your saying give you something manouverable and quick to gtfo of there rapid then HERE HERE !!!

[Kev Mc]

I love Euro NCap, safety is a big factor in when I'm buying a car, if something goes wrong, I want to be travelling in something that is going to look after me so the people behind that are legends in my eyes. I love the way that it's got nice straightforward rating system & then goes into more detail when you look at the cars, but not too much detail where it confuses the hell out of you.

The 4* rating was a massive factor in deciding to buy a Yaris & it's well deserved because there have been more than 1 occasion where people have been in horrific accidents & got off very lightly, they're extremely well built & the high rating suggests that so they certainly know what they're talking about. It's no coincidence that the car I replaced the Yaris with has got a 4* rating too

[Parts-King]

Unfortunately there is nothing ‘Brilliant’ about it. China doesn’t have anything like the European New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP) like we do as these results show:

That is so true, they have produced a few 4x4's that are nothing short of a death defying! Do your research on Ncap before you buy any car........if safety is important to you. it should be, they also produce the figures for pedestrian safety, it could be you that is hit by one of these Chinese vehicles!!!

Kingo

[T V O R]

I think safety is a massive influence on people when buying a new car. Just take a look at the Rover results on the NCAP site, and subsequently what happened to Rover in the end.

To think that a lot of us drove cars with no * rating or airbags, impact beams, seat belt pyrotechnics etc and survived

The biggest reasons for changing my cars over the last 7 to 8 years are due to safety improvements. My next car will be no different. Stability Control is the next ABS

[Fujisan]

The Metro was shocking! The Brilliant wasn't too hot either but thing's are changing in China and they have just launched an NCAP system based on the European model.

FIA press release

Having said that you do learn to pray hard when you are in the back of a Chinese taxi. Usually there is an anti-robbery cage between the front and rear seats made up of half inch steel bars (nicely chromed) and the seatbelts in rear, if the car ever had any, are usually history by the time you're sitting in it.

So in an accident you will find you're head embedded in steel bars!

At least you won't be killed by the fireball from the LPG tank only roughly strapped down in the boot!

Oh.....outside the main cities most Chinese taxi drivers treat red traffic lights as advisory! They might slow down to 30 or 40 if they see one!

[Parts-King]

The biggest reasons for changing my cars over the last 7 to 8 years are due to safety improvements. My next car will be no different. Stability Control is the next ABS

I'm not going into that VSC thread again, the last time I mashed my brain trying to explain how it worked, lol :D

Kingo

[Boro Sera]

Most of this thread is academic anyway as Metro's spent most of their existence parked up broken. In order to have a crash in one you first have to find one that works...........easier said than done !

[Demonic Angel]

dont really care what car it is. If 2 moving cars hit head on at any kind of sensible road speeds..... chances are someones sustained very serious injuries or died I reckon.

Not necessarily, mine was a combined 80mph head on collision in my last Yaris and I walked away without a scratch and the eejits who hit me legged it without much difficulty! lol

The Yaris is an amazingly tough little car - had I been in that Metro it would have been a different story!

Does anyone know: If there are no Euro NCAP score on their website for a particular make/model of car does this mean its never been tested?

[T V O R]

Good chance. Depends also how old the car is. No point testing an old car as it will be a zero in everything.

If you look at a 1999 Ford Escort you will see my point, it just folds like a pack of cards.

I had a Mk4 Escort years ago (the XR3 shape) on a G plate which you would have thought would be quite safe, that’s not tested. No airbags, no nothing really, just a seatbelt. No chance in a smash.

Looking at the newer model that replaced it confirms my suspicions of what could have happened at a 40mph impact.

[Demonic Angel]

Thats the thing, its a relatively new-ish model, but its not featured on their website....

[Red Yaris 54]

Thats the thing, its a relatively new-ish model, but its not featured on their website....

The manufacturers may not have offered it for testing yet Em

[T V O R]

Seeing as they have stopped making it, the chances are it won’t be tested.

NCAP = New Car Assessment Programme

There are American NCAP results, but I’m not sure in the difference in standards to the European one. I would trust the Euro NCAP myself.