Oil Filter

[Johnmerc]

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING THE OIL LIGHT ON MY 1997 RAV TAKES A FEW SECONDS TO GO OUT ON REMOVING THE FILTER BEFORE START UP IT IS ALWAYS EMPTY OF OIL i AM USEING THE GENUINE TOYOYA FILTER PART no 90915 YZZJ1 CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP THANK YOU JOHN.

[bothwell_buyer]

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING THE OIL LIGHT ON MY 1997 RAV TAKES A FEW SECONDS TO GO OUT ON REMOVING THE FILTER BEFORE START UP IT IS ALWAYS EMPTY OF OIL i AM USEING THE GENUINE TOYOYA FILTER PART no 90915 YZZJ1 CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP THANK YOU JOHN.

Hi and welcome to the forum.

Lots of answers to your questions altho the place is riddled with odd folk who buy almost new RAVs!!!

I suppose your oil light issue will depend to some extent on how many miles / how worn the engine is.

I have a 1994 RAV. The original engine did 160,000 before packing up due to lack of oil, caused by a leak at the crankshaft seal and the inability for my daughter/s to find the oil filler cap.

However, I did notice that it took a second or 2 for the oil pressure to build up, so I never revved the engine on immediate start up in the morning. It didn't seem to come to any harm and as I say it was an oil leak which caused the engine failure.

Others on here will give you a better technical answer but things like how you drive the car (high revs/thrashed/what oil you use/what mileage/is it standing on a slope will help them if you do a quick reply.

The above message has been translated from Scots to enable our English wizards to unnerstan wit ahm oan aboot.

Ian

[bothwell_buyer]

Bldn hall. I thoucht yed be inundated wi answers.

Are you losing any oil/dropping any?

[bothwell_buyer]

Bldn hall. I thoucht yed be inundated wi answers.

Are you losing any oil/dropping any?

Forgot to ask - is it Newport, wales or newport, Scotland ??

[anchorman]

Sorry

Meant to reply earlier but got waylaid!

It seems from your explanation that the oil is running back to the sump. The only thing that prevents it from doing so is the diaphragm non return valve that you can see coloured red through the holes in the new filter above but to help a bit further you can see it in this cutaway;

I don't know whether the problem coincided with you fitting the filter but it should definitely not be empty if you remove it. Even a Mr T filter can develope a fault so start by fitting a new filter and that should cure it. We need Kingo to just look at that part number but it looks like a US number to me.

PS although my brew looks a bit gloomy in the above picture it was actually very nice!

[anchorman]

Bldn hall. I thoucht !Removed! be inundated wi answers.

Are you losing any oil/dropping any?

Oi

Stop cussing in scottish, you might offend our new colleague

[bothwell_buyer]

Bldn hall. I thoucht yed be inundated wi answers.

Are you losing any oil/dropping any?

Oi

Stop cussing in scottish, you might offend our new colleague

An coming frae derbyshire where much of the 'english ' language wis derived aifter the Scandinavians took ye over then ah blame the government...

[anchorman]

Well you know were all wet, if you had defended us instead of fighting each other over the colour of your skirts it would never have happened. And then look before you know it Hade steps in and builds a wall to keep you from pickin on us.

Government is probably Roman when you think about it?

[Parts-King]

The filter is correct, I had a look last night. Over the years, Toyota have made oil filters smaller and smaller, the original on the early RAV's was a bit taller and held more oil, these short filters, 90915-YZZJ1 are tiny and hold little oil anyway. The Toyota oil filters have always had a non return system (as in Anchorman's photo) I think you need to consider there is maybe more things afoot, if changing the filter does not cure the problem

Kingo

[Uncle Bob]

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING THE OIL LIGHT ON MY 1997 RAV TAKES A FEW SECONDS TO GO OUT ON REMOVING THE FILTER BEFORE START UP IT IS ALWAYS EMPTY OF OIL i AM USEING THE GENUINE TOYOYA FILTER PART no 90915 YZZJ1 CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP THANK YOU JOHN.

Hi John and welcome to the RAV4 section of the TOC :)

I'll share a past experience with a motor i had...the car in question was a 2000 reg Lexus IS200 with 21K on the clock, this car i only used a few times a months and the oil from the filter would drain back to the sum ,so when i started it up, it would take 3-4 secs for the oil light to go out, this troubled me as poor oil circulation on start-up will shorted the life of any engine.

So i bought a TRD oil filter, this has a much better none return valve within the filter and after fitting it , cut my oil light time in half, they are a bit expensive at £24.00 ish, but if it can make you engine last longer its a cheap option.

Of course as suggested above you engine may not be in the best of health, no many easy ways to check the internal condition of your engine, short of dropping the sump and inspecting the main/big end shells, you could fit and oil pressure gauge just to keep an eye on the pressure hot and cold, if you decide to do this I'll look up the pressure for you :) ....good luck.

[bothwell_buyer]

Well you know were all wet, if you had defended us instead of fighting each other over the colour of your skirts it would never have happened. And then look before you know it Hade steps in and builds a wall to keep you from pickin on us.

Government is probably Roman when you think about it?

Never trust the Romans. How many RAVs have ye seen in Rome. All I got was an attemtped mugging, but being a Scot held ma wallet and ran like Fk. Spend ma holiday money on ma RAV noo.

Interesting about the TRD filter.

Oh and we built walls tae keep the water oot. A lesson not learnt by yer neeburs.

[Parts-King]

Bothy..........yer bummbling along in Gaelic again man..........Cat you run the spell checker/translater over it before hitting the send button :D

Kingo

[Johnmerc]

Bldn hall. I thoucht !Removed! be inundated wi answers.

Are you losing any oil/dropping any?

Forgot to ask - is it Newport, wales or newport, Scotland ??

Thanks for the reply no oil leaks the engine is dry as a bone, runs very quite its just this few seconds in the morning thats buging me its Newport Wales by the way and what do you think of the new rugby coach?

[Johnmerc]

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING THE OIL LIGHT ON MY 1997 RAV TAKES A FEW SECONDS TO GO OUT ON REMOVING THE FILTER BEFORE START UP IT IS ALWAYS EMPTY OF OIL i AM USEING THE GENUINE TOYOYA FILTER PART no 90915 YZZJ1 CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP THANK YOU JOHN.

Hi John and welcome to the RAV4 section of the TOC :)

I'll share a past experience with a motor i had...the car in question was a 2000 reg Lexus IS200 with 21K on the clock, this car i only used a few times a months and the oil from the filter would drain back to the sum ,so when i started it up, it would take 3-4 secs for the oil light to go out, this troubled me as poor oil circulation on start-up will shorted the life of any engine.

So i bought a TRD oil filter, this has a much better none return valve within the filter and after fitting it , cut my oil light time in half, they are a bit expensive at £24.00 ish, but if it can make you engine last longer its a cheap option.

Of course as suggested above you engine may not be in the best of health, no many easy ways to check the internal condition of your engine, short of dropping the sump and inspecting the main/big end shells, you could fit and oil pressure gauge just to keep an eye on the pressure hot and cold, if you decide to do this I'll look up the pressure for you :) ....good luck.

Hi Bob thanks for the reply, the engine has done 60,000 miles and runs very well even after a 100 mile run and a slow tick over the light has never come on, its just this few seconds in the morning thats bugging me

[Johnmerc]

The filter is correct, I had a look last night. Over the years, Toyota have made oil filters smaller and smaller, the original on the early RAV's was a bit taller and held more oil, these short filters, 90915-YZZJ1 are tiny and hold little oil anyway. The Toyota oil filters have always had a non return system (as in Anchorman's photo) I think you need to consider there is maybe more things afoot, if changing the filter does not cure the problem

Kingo

Thanks Kingo I have also tried the Halfords filter the same problem, always empty in the morning, but apart from that the engine is running great even when hot no sign of a flicking light.

[Johnmerc]

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING THE OIL LIGHT ON MY 1997 RAV TAKES A FEW SECONDS TO GO OUT ON REMOVING THE FILTER BEFORE START UP IT IS ALWAYS EMPTY OF OIL i AM USEING THE GENUINE TOYOYA FILTER PART no 90915 YZZJ1 CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP THANK YOU JOHN.

Hi and welcome to the forum.

Lots of answers to your questions altho the place is riddled with odd folk who buy almost new RAVs!!!

I suppose your oil light issue will depend to some extent on how many miles / how worn the engine is.

I have a 1994 RAV. The original engine did 160,000 before packing up due to lack of oil, caused by a leak at the crankshaft seal and the inability for my daughter/s to find the oil filler cap.

However, I did notice that it took a second or 2 for the oil pressure to build up, so I never revved the engine on immediate start up in the morning. It didn't seem to come to any harm and as I say it was an oil leak which caused the engine failure.

Others on here will give you a better technical answer but things like how you drive the car (high revs/thrashed/what oil you use/what mileage/is it standing on a slope will help them if you do a quick reply.

The above message has been translated from Scots to enable our English wizards to unnerstan wit ahm oan aboot.

Ian

Thanks Ian after trying a few more filters, I think the cheapest option would be to stand the RAV up and rest it on the front bumper

[bothwell_buyer]

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING THE OIL LIGHT ON MY 1997 RAV TAKES A FEW SECONDS TO GO OUT ON REMOVING THE FILTER BEFORE START UP IT IS ALWAYS EMPTY OF OIL i AM USEING THE GENUINE TOYOYA FILTER PART no 90915 YZZJ1 CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP THANK YOU JOHN.

Hi and welcome to the forum.

Lots of answers to your questions altho the place is riddled with odd folk who buy almost new RAVs!!!

I suppose your oil light issue will depend to some extent on how many miles / how worn the engine is.

I have a 1994 RAV. The original engine did 160,000 before packing up due to lack of oil, caused by a leak at the crankshaft seal and the inability for my daughter/s to find the oil filler cap.

However, I did notice that it took a second or 2 for the oil pressure to build up, so I never revved the engine on immediate start up in the morning. It didn't seem to come to any harm and as I say it was an oil leak which caused the engine failure.

Others on here will give you a better technical answer but things like how you drive the car (high revs/thrashed/what oil you use/what mileage/is it standing on a slope will help them if you do a quick reply.

The above message has been translated from Scots to enable our English wizards to unnerstan wit ahm oan aboot.

Ian

Thanks Ian after trying a few more filters, I think the cheapest option would be to stand the RAV up and rest it on the front bumper

I dunno if the sensor or whatever measures the oil pressure might be a bit sticky causing the light to hesitate on start up...? As I said I had it and the engine did 160,000 miles. I bought the haynes RAV book done for the USA market and see if theres anything shows up there...altho it might still be in the RAV which is in the garage getting the clutch prob done. I'll have a look.

[bothwell_buyer]

Bothy..........yer bummbling along in Gaelic again man..........Cat you run the spell checker/translater over it before hitting the send button :D

Kingo

Ehhhh. Is that the spell check that you use?? - "bummbling" and what does "Cat" have anything to do with it. Oh, wait a minute. It is Friday afternoon when most of England retire to the Public House for a drink. I suppose you have an excuse then - no cheek intended.

Translating - Ah dinna have a problem unnerstannin whit yer oan aboot so hows it that ye cannae unnerstan me?? An Gaelic is whit they pit oan pizzas. Aye yer daein a grand job, but haud yer wheesht when it comes tae spellin. Ahm no saying yer glaikit by the way.

[bothwell_buyer]

Johnmerc

I bolted 6 large cibies on the front which keeps the front down. Now with the turbo engine, the guys have added baffles in the sump to reduce any tendency of oil starvation on accelaration up mountains. None of us have had the thought of the oil filter or oil pump, but then the 3SGTE engine is meant to be a bit stronger than the 3SFE. They share the same block though.

I picked up a 3SFE engine for a couple of hundred quid 2 years ago before deciding to go down the route of the turbo....but you've got a lot of miles before you need worry about that one.

Ian

[Parts-King]

Ehhhh. Is that the spell check that you use?? - "bummbling" and what does "Cat" have anything to do with it. Oh, wait a minute. It is Friday afternoon when most of England retire to the Public House for a drink. I suppose you have an excuse then - no cheek intended.

My tryping was tong in cheeeky....or summat :D :D :D

Kingo

[Uncle Bob]

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