Toyota Corolla Verso March 2007 2.2 D4d Tr Diesel

[mrhead28]

hi i realy need some advise i have a toyota corolla verso ex demo brought it with 1050 miles on the clock now has 6500 it has started to drink a lot of oil and making a loud ticking noise and has lost a lot of power and all the warning light are coming on. it has bin going on for about 3 weaks now i have took it back to the main dealers whitch they said it was safe to drive. we have bin on the phone to them today and the have took it in the are telling us that the valve stem seals could be missing right ok so whys that. if it not that then we might have to replace the engine please please help ware do i stand should i say yes to a new eagine or try and get a new car out of them or what help.what could be the damage to the engine if the stem seals have bin missing sinse the car was made i really need some advise or help please

[moonstone mart]

hi i realy need some advise i have a toyota corolla verso ex demo brought it with 1050 miles on the clock now has 6500 it has started to drink a lot of oil and making a loud ticking noise and has lost a lot of power and all the warning light are coming on. it has bin going on for about 3 weaks now i have took it back to the main dealers whitch they said it was safe to drive. we have bin on the phone to them today and the have took it in the are telling us that the valve stem seals could be missing right ok so whys that. if it not that then we might have to replace the engine please please help ware do i stand should i say yes to a new eagine or try and get a new car out of them or what help.what could be the damage to the engine if the stem seals have bin missing sinse the car was made i really need some advise or help please

I very much doubt there is a valve stem seal missing, also they wouldnt be able to tell unless they removed the cams/valve springs.

The new 2.0 & 2.2 (1AD/2AD) diesel engines are becoming common for heavy oil usage due to the oil control rings on the pistons clogging up with carbon and oil and scoring the bores.

The fix for this is to remove the engine to remove the cylinder head. When this is done the bores are checked for score marks. If there are marks present then the whole short motor is replaced under warranty. If there isnt scoring to the bores then 4 new modified pistons and modified piston rings are fitted and the engine rebuilt with a new headgasket (5 different available depending on piston protusion amount)

I have done quite a few of these engines over the last couple of months at work.

Did they suggest an oil consumption test when you took it in? Does it smoke at any time? How low did the oil level get when the loud ticking noise started (if you checked of course)

All the above should be covered by the warranty.

Mart.

[mrhead28]

hi i realy need some advise i have a toyota corolla verso ex demo brought it with 1050 miles on the clock now has 6500 it has started to drink a lot of oil and making a loud ticking noise and has lost a lot of power and all the warning light are coming on. it has bin going on for about 3 weaks now i have took it back to the main dealers whitch they said it was safe to drive. we have bin on the phone to them today and the have took it in the are telling us that the valve stem seals could be missing right ok so whys that. if it not that then we might have to replace the engine please please help ware do i stand should i say yes to a new eagine or try and get a new car out of them or what help.what could be the damage to the engine if the stem seals have bin missing sinse the car was made i really need some advise or help please

I very much doubt there is a valve stem seal missing, also they wouldnt be able to tell unless they removed the cams/valve springs.

The new 2.0 & 2.2 (1AD/2AD) diesel engines are becoming common for heavy oil usage due to the oil control rings on the pistons clogging up with carbon and oil and scoring the bores.

The fix for this is to remove the engine to remove the cylinder head. When this is done the bores are checked for score marks. If there are marks present then the whole short motor is replaced under warranty. If there isnt scoring to the bores then 4 new modified pistons and modified piston rings are fitted and the engine rebuilt with a new headgasket (5 different available depending on piston protusion amount)

I have done quite a few of these engines over the last couple of months at work.

Did they suggest an oil consumption test when you took it in? Does it smoke at any time? How low did the oil level get when the loud ticking noise started (if you checked of course)

All the above should be covered by the warranty.

Mart.

hi there yes it does smoke when you put your foot down.oil whent right down to bottom of the stick that was around ticking noise started.they said about the stem seals missing after speaking to toyota costermer care and thats when they to us to bring the car in.

[bjw]

hi i realy need some advise i have a toyota corolla verso ex demo brought it with 1050 miles on the clock now has 6500 it has started to drink a lot of oil and making a loud ticking noise and has lost a lot of power and all the warning light are coming on. it has bin going on for about 3 weaks now i have took it back to the main dealers whitch they said it was safe to drive. we have bin on the phone to them today and the have took it in the are telling us that the valve stem seals could be missing right ok so whys that. if it not that then we might have to replace the engine please please help ware do i stand should i say yes to a new eagine or try and get a new car out of them or what help.what could be the damage to the engine if the stem seals have bin missing sinse the car was made i really need some advise or help please

I very much doubt there is a valve stem seal missing, also they wouldnt be able to tell unless they removed the cams/valve springs.

The new 2.0 & 2.2 (1AD/2AD) diesel engines are becoming common for heavy oil usage due to the oil control rings on the pistons clogging up with carbon and oil and scoring the bores.

The fix for this is to remove the engine to remove the cylinder head. When this is done the bores are checked for score marks. If there are marks present then the whole short motor is replaced under warranty. If there isnt scoring to the bores then 4 new modified pistons and modified piston rings are fitted and the engine rebuilt with a new headgasket (5 different available depending on piston protusion amount)

I have done quite a few of these engines over the last couple of months at work.

Did they suggest an oil consumption test when you took it in? Does it smoke at any time? How low did the oil level get when the loud ticking noise started (if you checked of course)

All the above should be covered by the warranty.

Mart.

Hello Mart

I hope this is not another oil burning issue with Toyota's it tends to shake your confidence a bit after the Avensis oil burning problems but hopefully these will be an isolated cases

[TPoll]

Do you know when they started to fit the modified pistons and rings? A month ago (late October 2007) I purchased a new 2.2 D4D, and wondered if this was something I should look forward to:-(

[moonstone mart]

Do you know when they started to fit the modified pistons and rings? A month ago (late October 2007) I purchased a new 2.2 D4D, and wondered if this was something I should look forward to:-(

Im not too sure when the modified pistons/rings were first fitted (if at all) or when the engines were built sorry. Im not at work for a few weeks so i cant give you an answer to that sorry.

Your car may well be fine for years and years but its always good practice to check you oil often. Alot of people never even look under the bonnet - let alone know how to open it.....this is where alot of probs start as they drive,drive and drive and usually by the time we see it, the damage has been done.

Mart.

[moonstone mart]

Any update on this?

Mart.

[mrhead28]

hi mart yes we have after a letter of complaint and a lot of talk they have replaced are car with a 57reg sr are the other one needed a new engine so we did not want it back.

cheers

[moonstone mart]

Good to hear , i still find it hard to believe the engine was missing its stem seals like they told you though. Esp if they never split the engine to check.

Mart.

[Johne]

Good to hear , i still find it hard to believe the engine was missing its stem seals like they told you though. Esp if they never split the engine to check.

Mart.

Mart

My 2.2 TD verso seems to use about 1 litre per 1000 miles (about from the top dot on the dip stick to the bottom dot). also seems a lot noisier than it use to be. Now has 17000 on the clock. Is it a classic case of the problem with the rings you have discribed and should I mention it at the 20000 service.

Thanks

[Parts-King]

name='bjw' date='Dec 21 2007, 08:03 PM' post='704750']

Hello Mart

I hope this is not another oil burning issue with Toyota's it tends to shake your confidence a bit after the Avensis oil burning problems but hopefully these will be an isolated cases

Oh yes it is :(

Kingo

[Parts-King]

Good to hear , i still find it hard to believe the engine was missing its stem seals like they told you though. Esp if they never split the engine to check.

Mart.

Mart

My 2.2 TD verso seems to use about 1 litre per 1000 miles (about from the top dot on the dip stick to the bottom dot). also seems a lot noisier than it use to be. Now has 17000 on the clock. Is it a classic case of the problem with the rings you have discribed and should I mention it at the 20000 service.

Thanks

You should definatly mention it

Kingo

[moonstone mart]

Good to hear , i still find it hard to believe the engine was missing its stem seals like they told you though. Esp if they never split the engine to check.

Mart.

Mart

My 2.2 TD verso seems to use about 1 litre per 1000 miles (about from the top dot on the dip stick to the bottom dot). also seems a lot noisier than it use to be. Now has 17000 on the clock. Is it a classic case of the problem with the rings you have discribed and should I mention it at the 20000 service.

Thanks

As PK says you should definately mention it at the service or if you have time to take it down before give them a call and ask them about it. They should mention doing a consumption check on the oil (needs to be done before they will authorise a new block or rings if the consumption is bad enough). We usually top the oil up to the MAX mark on the dipstick, let the owner have the car back and do 1000 miles then return for us to check the level again.

If it does need doing you will be without the car for a few days when they fix it.

Mart.

[bjw]

name='bjw' date='Dec 21 2007, 08:03 PM' post='704750']

Hello Mart

I hope this is not another oil burning issue with Toyota's it tends to shake your confidence a bit after the Avensis oil burning problems but hopefully these will be an isolated cases

Oh yes it is :(

Kingo

"Oh yes it is"

Which one kingo

A isolated case or another Avensis oil burning issue :o