Can A Starlet Gt Turbo Engine Fit Into 2006-up Yaris?

[amirrzz]

Hello guys...ive been doing research on how to increase my 2007 yaris 1.3 (2NZFE) for months and ive done some mod on the engine like changing the crankpulley, flywheel as well as turbocharging it using greddy bolt on turbo kit..But, the amount of HP gain is rather small..so ive been thinking about this qn, can a starlet gt turbo engine fit into the yaris engine bay? how about the mounting?

-p.s jz 2 answer some ppl's qn - i like the shape of my yaris so i wont buy a glanza or starlet gt B)

[Baby Yari]

Hello guys...ive been doing research on how to increase my 2007 yaris 1.3 (2NZFE) for months and ive done some mod on the engine like changing the crankpulley, flywheel as well as turbocharging it using greddy bolt on turbo kit..But, the amount of HP gain is rather small..so ive been thinking about this qn, can a starlet gt turbo engine fit into the yaris engine bay? how about the mounting?

-p.s jz 2 answer some ppl's qn - i like the shape of my yaris so i wont buy a glanza or starlet gt B)

You've fitted a turbo to your Yari and you still don't have enough power?! Standard is 86bhp on the 1.3 so you must be putting out somewhere in the region of 110bhp now, more than enough to eat up t-pots anyways! Theres gunna be loads of peeps on here mate that will be interested to know what you've changed to accomodate the turbo, etc. Have you got any pics available??

Sorry I've strayed from the original question! Do a search in the forum coz this has been asked quite a few times before

[Mat-O]

If you already have a 1.3 turbo will putting a different 1.3 turbo make much difference? Why not buy a T Sport, or RS and turbocharge that?

[dawesy]

yes it can fit (anything is possible with enough time and more importantly, money) the biggest nightmare is syncing 2 ecus (unless you bin most of the yaris electrics and fit after market gauges and the like

[amirrzz]

i'll take the pics for u guys 2c some time later...the thing about the bolt-on turbo is that although we are using low boost, we have the nightmare that the engine will blow anytime and we might never know what will happen to the conrod etc..this is what im afraid of...this will happen to the RS or even T-sport..

changing to a starlet turbo engine is the safetest way i guess...

so dawesy, you think syn bet two ecu is the only difficulties? how about the mounting and the gearbox position? thx

[eiriksmil]

.this will happen to the RS or even T-sport.

RS and T-Sport are the same cars. How much boost are you running at? No one make upgraded internals for these engines?

[Baby Yari]

.this will happen to the RS or even T-sport.

RS and T-Sport are the same cars. How much boost are you running at? No one make upgraded internals for these engines?

I would of thought the internals could possibly be made stronger in some way?? Costly option though I reckon

[Tuned_Up_T-Sport]

Id go for the glanza transplant far more potential than the T-Sport engine.. :D

[amirrzz]

.this will happen to the RS or even T-sport.

RS and T-Sport are the same cars. How much boost are you running at? No one make upgraded internals for these engines?

I would of thought the internals could possibly be made stronger in some way?? Costly option though I reckon

ive search through the net, i even went to the C-one dealer, HKS, BLITZ and so many...they said no, the one and only engine mod (besides the flywheel and crankpulley) is the bolt on turbo - cant even find stronger piston...im running on 6psi...how i wish there are more upgraded aftermarket for this engine...

my biggest concern is that the conrod of the 1 or 2nzfe (1.3cc or the 1.5) is small..might never know what will happen in the future..

[Mat-O]

.this will happen to the RS or even T-sport.

RS and T-Sport are the same cars. How much boost are you running at? No one make upgraded internals for these engines?

I think he means old T Sport and new RS.

[amirrzz]

.this will happen to the RS or even T-sport.

RS and T-Sport are the same cars. How much boost are you running at? No one make upgraded internals for these engines?

I think he means old T Sport and new RS.

is there any more new T-sport? i heard all new model are RS model BTW is there any new suggestions for the topic? can I swapped the engine? and what are the difficulties i would expect....thx in advance

[Vitz2001]

.this will happen to the RS or even T-sport.

RS and T-Sport are the same cars. How much boost are you running at? No one make upgraded internals for these engines?

I think he means old T Sport and new RS.

is there any more new T-sport? i heard all new model are RS model BTW is there any new suggestions for the topic? can I swapped the engine? and what are the difficulties i would expect....thx in advance

Hey man I am having the same question on the starlet glanza engine for months now!

I am driving an old vitz rs using the engine you mentioned.... are you talking about the new yaris generation with the same engine type like my 2001 yaris? If so I think there are available forged low compression pistons and conrods for that engine although will be a pricey project. The problem is what bhp you are willing to reach ...

[amirrzz]

.this will happen to the RS or even T-sport.

RS and T-Sport are the same cars. How much boost are you running at? No one make upgraded internals for these engines?

I think he means old T Sport and new RS.

is there any more new T-sport? i heard all new model are RS model BTW is there any new suggestions for the topic? can I swapped the engine? and what are the difficulties i would expect....thx in advance

Hey man I am having the same question on the starlet glanza engine for months now!

I am driving an old vitz rs using the engine you mentioned.... are you talking about the new yaris generation with the same engine type like my 2001 yaris? If so I think there are available forged low compression pistons and conrods for that engine although will be a pricey project. The problem is what bhp you are willing to reach ...

wow...nice to know that...btw im using the 2NZFE engine, if you have the same engine then i guess there are not much difference on which generation our engines are in.. actually i dont really care about the bhp, im more towards the torque, well, lets just say i want it to reach around 250NM-300NM..i know this sounds crazy but hey, ppl wont mod their car if they're not crazy right - i guess no offence btw, its just my opinion... owh yea back to the topic, have you seen the forged pistons and conrods? which company produce this? do they sell it or its just coating? sorry to say this, but if its just coating i dont think these items will last that long, if they make a much stronger and thicker conrod then i would consider buying the items ;)

[Vitz2001]

Here is a link for your needs :) http://ssmotorsport-bg.com/en/products/Toyota%20Yaris.htm

Look out on other parts.... Arias forged pistons

There is also an engine swap price estimate :)

Regarding conrods there are Carillo conrods available for the 2NZ-FE. If you google out you will find for sure

[amirrzz]

Here is a link for your needs :) http://ssmotorsport-bg.com/en/products/Toyota%20Yaris.htm

Look out on other parts.... Arias forged pistons

There is also an engine swap price estimate :)

Regarding conrods there are Carillo conrods available for the 2NZ-FE. If you google out you will find for sure

thx for the info man...actually ive emailed them months back...there were no answer sadly...regarding the conrod, they didnt make one for yaris... :( ive been searching for months now and thats why im going for 4efte...

[Vitz2001]

Here is a link for your needs :) http://ssmotorsport-bg.com/en/products/Toyota%20Yaris.htm

Look out on other parts.... Arias forged pistons

There is also an engine swap price estimate :)

Regarding conrods there are Carillo conrods available for the 2NZ-FE. If you google out you will find for sure

thx for the info man...actually ive emailed them months back...there were no answer sadly...regarding the conrod, they didnt make one for yaris... :( ive been searching for months now and thats why im going for 4efte...

Hey you are right I just found out that the conrods were for the 1NZ-FE !!! and I couldn't find any for the 2NZ-FE. But how does this makes sense? If there are forged pistons for the 2NZ then there are for sure conrods aswell out there.

[dawesy]

wiring is the biggest headache in any transplant. i had the 3S bolted in on two mounts in a day and a half it took two weeks just to sort the loom and even now im not 100% happy with the routing etc but bear in mind the stock rolla ecu only runs the engine and nothing else unlike the yaris.

[amirrzz]

wiring is the biggest headache in any transplant. i had the 3S bolted in on two mounts in a day and a half it took two weeks just to sort the loom and even now im not 100% happy with the routing etc but bear in mind the stock rolla ecu only runs the engine and nothing else unlike the yaris.

yea...i guess you are right about the wiring..i went to one of the half-cut workshop and they told me that the ecu is the biggest problem, it may take them weeks just to sort the loom as well as the routing, this would include the electronics such as the electronic speedo - mind you, the new yaris with 2nzfe has more electronic stuff than the 1nzfe - they claimed...they are currently checking my yaris and will soon telling me whether or not they can do the swapping...they also told me that the Yaris has a different body structure - the engine bay is shorter compared to echo and starlet, so they will need to relocate some of the parts e.g. the radiator as well as the vr4 intercooler that my yaris is currently using...

fu~ i hope this would work...at first i thought i can do the swapping by myself, but now, i guess ive to let the professional to do it...

guys, any info at this stage will be very helpfull...if they can do the swapping i will soon open a new thread of the project...

[amirrzz]

the mechanic called me jz now n tell me that i might not be able to use the original (electronic) speedo because it is control directly by the ecu... what do you guys think? is it worth?

[Vitz2001]

If the only problem is a speedometer than go for it mate and keep us updated.

Good luck!!

[T600]

is it worth?

Only you can really answer that, but there must be lots of factors to consider.

Well how much have they quoted you? How much will the end result cost to insure?

I would imagine it's going to be a lot of labour, which plus parts is going to add up to a lot of money.

If you're doing it yourself then the hours don't really matter so much, and you would have the satisfaction of having built something unique for a reasonable price.

But personally I can't see the economics of it if you're paying someone to do it. Wouldn't it be easier to trade your car for a faster one, or do you think the combination of that engine in that Shell is going to be better than anything you could buy for that amount of money?

Are you going to keep the car a long time? If not you're going to lose big time because the car probably will be worth less than it is now despite the amount of money you'll have spent on the upgrade.

[amirrzz]

is it worth?

Only you can really answer that, but there must be lots of factors to consider.

Well how much have they quoted you? How much will the end result cost to insure?

I would imagine it's going to be a lot of labour, which plus parts is going to add up to a lot of money.

If you're doing it yourself then the hours don't really matter so much, and you would have the satisfaction of having built something unique for a reasonable price.

But personally I can't see the economics of it if you're paying someone to do it. Wouldn't it be easier to trade your car for a faster one, or do you think the combination of that engine in that Shell is going to be better than anything you could buy for that amount of money?

Are you going to keep the car a long time? If not you're going to lose big time because the car probably will be worth less than it is now despite the amount of money you'll have spent on the upgrade.

i see your point man...i swapped my 1996 gt4 by myself thats y i guess its a bit expensive to do the swapping...but to my surprised, they quoted around €200 for the swap and another €100 for the electronics thingy...ive talked to my friend who is working at the LT dept and he told me no to worry as theres nothing to insure (easier to have a contact when neded :D).

trade for a faster car? ive my 500bhp gt4, surely fast than my yaris right? ;) i dont know if its going to be better or not, but ive the feeling that if i swap the engine, it would still be rather an economical car (compared to my gt4)...after all, im not going to mod this engine heavily, intend to reach approx 200bhp (260nm maybe) - my new daily car...thats one point...2nd, - ive turboed my current engine and im afraid of breaking the internal after few years which i guess the parts must be more expensive to buy (compared to used parts in the second hand shops when using 4EFTE) and besides my friend is willing to buy my engine for €900 (with the C-one crankpulley etc)...

ive keep my gt4 for 11 years and im thinking of keeping it till it become what people see today as a muscle car...the same goes to the soon 'yaris with 4efte', the only difference is that this will be my daily rice rocket....

update: the mechanic is currently checking for other Toyotas loop (this is what he told me ) so that i can use back my speedo...will update u guys soon... more update to come

[Vitz2001]

So the 4efte fits the yaris 2006 using the 2NZ-FE engine... so proably it fits on a yaris 2001 using the same engine. Is this a good calculation?

[amirrzz]

So the 4efte fits the yaris 2006 using the 2NZ-FE engine... so proably it fits on a yaris 2001 using the same engine. Is this a good calculation?

shud be fit..no doubt about it...the mechanic told me that 4efte can fit yaris 2001 a.k.a echo easily (and thus, by ursef) with a very minor mod -he claimed that they have done it before...

the 2006-up is kinda diff from the previous yaris (chasis etc), this is why it will take them weeks to swap the engine (from a half cut)...i'll call them by tomorrow to ask few things, hopefully something interesting would come up :)

[Vitz2001]

This is what I am asking within these months ! If you know more information by your mechanic on the 4efte swap and the old yaris version I will be happy to read about it.

Keep us updated!