Looking For Somewhere To Map My Four

[Marko185]

getting me beloved four back in the next week or so after a full engine rebuild (again )

Got quite a high spec its basically a full race spec engine ( forged pistons, balanced crank steel rods, uprated cams etc etc) and iv got a nice big hybrid turbo to bolt on too 60-1 trim hybrid CT26 T04e ( very cheap from US at this moment in time due to exchange rate) plus a few other goodies, but i shall be looking for somewhere to to set it all up properly after iv run engine in! any recomendations?? not fussed about proce more quality of work im after.

cheers.

link for hybrid T04e turbo if anyones interested in an upgrade http://www.suprastore.com/ct26turup.html

[GTForbes]

what engine management are you looking to run? i'm in the middle of a few cars ATM bt by the end of febuary i'll have hopefully finished with those. when would you be looking to get it mapped, when do you think you'll be finished running it in?

[bothwell_buyer]

Marc at The Garage in Wishaw does my 3SGTE and is about to do a 2nd conversion on another RAV. We then intend to choose one of them to take the engine up a few notches.

His number is 01698 375789 and say you were speaking to Ian wi the RAVs. Dennis who works there is excellent at this sort of thing. They specialise in Jap cars and skylines, but have done a lot of work with the 3SGTE - especially on drag spec I think.

Ian

[Marko185]

Cheer for the info there ian i'll give them a wee ring see what there saying like the fact its not too far to travel.

GTForbes iv got an open mind as regards to Engine management, prob looking for something along the lines of standalone or a top spec piggyback like the hks v-pro. i have a dastek unichip lying around from my old mr2 but its not going to be good enough for what im after.

should have the car beck this month, hopefully within the next week. i'll have it run in in a day lol. cars in nuneaton so by the time i drive back up to scotland itl be near enough there.

please keep the info coming folks as iv never had a car set up with a standalone before and im pretty much in the dark with it all.

[GTForbes]

Marc only does all the mechanical work for cars, not the mapping. the drag spec 3s-gte that they have delt with was a aparently 700bhp imported mr2, iirc they had to practically re-build the thing, turbo and all but never got it back up to the claimed power.

i've recienly started working with the e-manage ultimate, it's starting to be recognised as one of the best piggy back systems out, will be finished my first install of it this weekend and mapped too if i get time. can't wait to play with the launch control feature and flat shift :D previously i worked with the e-manage blue which is what i had on my Four

i would try and get rid of the unichip, i've never heard a good word about them. not to mention the friends who have had them fitted then had to get new engines afterwards.

standalones are usually the best option but that depends on your budget, i don't like the power FC due to lack of knock protection, the MoTeC systems are good as are DTA, there's tonnes to choose from, it just depends on your future plans, do you intend on going for 5-600bhp or would you be happy woth about 400?

[Marko185]

Marc only does all the mechanical work for cars, not the mapping. the drag spec 3s-gte that they have delt with was a aparently 700bhp imported mr2, iirc they had to practically re-build the thing, turbo and all but never got it back up to the claimed power.

i've recienly started working with the e-manage ultimate, it's starting to be recognised as one of the best piggy back systems out, will be finished my first install of it this weekend and mapped too if i get time. can't wait to play with the launch control feature and flat shift :D previously i worked with the e-manage blue which is what i had on my Four

i would try and get rid of the unichip, i've never heard a good word about them. not to mention the friends who have had them fitted then had to get new engines afterwards.

standalones are usually the best option but that depends on your budget, i don't like the power FC due to lack of knock protection, the MoTeC systems are good as are DTA, there's tonnes to choose from, it just depends on your future plans, do you intend on going for 5-600bhp or would you be happy woth about 400?

Iv read a bit about the emanage ultimate, launch control and flat shifting sounds like good features :D

tbh id be happy with 400-450ish bhp the engine builder has assured me that my new engine is capable of exotic bhp figures but realistically cant see me going for silly figures as everything becomes ridiculously expensive.

does the emanage ultimate have any antilag control??

Im presuming aswell that the emanage ultimate would be able to set the st185 to run of a map sensor rather than afm, Iv basically got a tuned up st205 engine running off st185 ecu....

cheers

[bothwell_buyer]

After the post from GTForbes, I had a feeling that it wasn't quite right as I've watched the guys working on various cars; and locally had been recommended to use him. I suppose I must be a happy customer, cos I've just arranged him to do a 2nd 3SGTE powered RAV4 - which will only be the 2nd in Europe and the 7th in the world. He did the 1st in Europe for me.

I visited Marcs garage this morning, and he sent me the following, which should clarify things:

"Marc only does all the mechanical work for cars, not the mapping. the drag spec 3s-gte that they have delt with was a aparently 700bhp imported mr2, iirc they had to practically re-build the thing, turbo and all but never got it back up to the claimed power."

Not quite true, yes we do map and have been using the emanage blue and ultimate for the last 5 years since the Blue was launched, I think it would be fair to say we have probably fitted and mapped more Blues and Ultimates than anyone else in Scotland. Certainly we were once of the first people to shift from using the PFC system in favour of the Ultimate when it was launched over a year ago and have been advocating it as "better than most standalone ecus" for sometime.

We tend to just map cars the we have built or were heavily involved in the build or familiar with the customer as opposed to just mapping anything that comes through the door, we have our reasons for doing that and it is still our policy todate.

The MR2 was always a "claimed" 700bhp figure when it was purchased from Japan, a figure it never lived upto in the UK though eventually by the time we had finished with it it managed I think from memory 630bhp. The turbo had to be rebuilt due to damage on the intake side due to it running with no filtration but the engine was only ever inspected and never rebuilt. The majority of the problems the vehicle had were simply the fact that the MR2 Shell could not keep the engine in place :) time after time it ripped engine mounts out of the chassis before eventually pulling the rear engine mount (and about 8" of steel the surrounded the mount) clean out of the Shell .... at this point the project was abandoned.

The engine still lives on you will be pleased to know but is now in something else, still a Toyota I may add but not an MR2 :)

I hope that clears up some matters for you all, I know I have been very inactive on the car scene and the forums for sometime and its understandable that in that time certain facts have become lost or misinterpreted about who we are, what we do and what we have done in the past. Realistically I just decided to take some time out of the car scene and start a family, in between I also managed to establish another larger garage that is designed to not only enhance our capability with performance cars, we now have some of the most advanced diagnostic, chassis alignment and general facilities in Scotland all under one roof, but also enable us to deal with the less "performance" orientated aspects of vehicle ownership such as MOT, servicing, tyres, exhausts and dare I say it ... even car sales. Pretty much I have taken the time and investment to become a professional "Garage" and not just me working 7 days a week like a madman, I would certainly like to feel we have "upped our game" quite considerably.

Of course we are still prone to taking on the odd project that intrests us like Ians Rav4, its been great fun and a good test of our skills and I believe that both we as a garage and the customer is happy with the finish result and ultimatly that is all I could ever wish for.

Regards

Marc Light

www.the-garage.co.uk

I hope this helps clear up any misconceptions. I don't, by the way, work for Marc!! Just a very satisfied customer and don't mind sharing good suppliers as I discover them. Word of mouth is much better than adverts isn't it?

Ian

[GTForbes]

thanks Ian and send my regards to Marc for clearing the details up for me and everyone else. i didn't realise that Marc was mapping but that is probably due to the fact that i havent seen him since he moved out of his small premises in Wishaw and stepped out of the car scene, glad to hear that his business is doing well. i know how you can so easily sing Marc's praises Ian as i also know his work and how much of a sound guy he is.

the E-Manage Ultimate doesn't have anti-lag as such but you can programme it to build boost on the launch control and also with the flat shift feature you don't need anti-lag, Adrian at Fensport uses the same programming set up although through a MoTeC as he found it shortened his 1/4 mile times.

With that sort of power figure the E-Manage Ultimate is more that enough, you will also be able to ditch the AFM which is the weakest link in the 185 after the headgasket, whilst mapping my own GT-Four i found the AFM to essentially slap open and then bounce untill a steady air flow was reached this lead to irregular air-fuel ratio's, i'm guessing this is why toyota had the ECU's programmed on the rich side to ensure it didn't run lean and why so many 185's have suffered engine damage due to tight engine mapping.

P.S. Ian, could you send my congratulations to Marc on the starting of his family, i hadn't heard as i also took a step out of the car scene to start one of my own

[Marko185]

Cheers for this info guys, everything helps.

THis emanage is sounding quite appealing, what kind of price do they go for Incl buying installing setting up etc?

cheers

[GTForbes]

i'm not sure for buying, try places like www.greenline.jp or www.mohdparts.com or even funkypower (don't know the address sorry) or even ask Marc from the garage where he gets his

installing and mapping i'll pm you a price

[Marko185]

i'm not sure for buying, try places like www.greenline.jp or www.mohdparts.com or even funkypower (don't know the address sorry) or even ask Marc from the garage where he gets his

installing and mapping i'll pm you a price

cheers i'll have a dig around see what i can find.

[bothwell_buyer]

thanks Ian and send my regards to Marc for clearing the details up for me and everyone else. i didn't realise that Marc was mapping but that is probably due to the fact that i havent seen him since he moved out of his small premises in Wishaw and stepped out of the car scene, glad to hear that his business is doing well. i know how you can so easily sing Marc's praises Ian as i also know his work and how much of a sound guy he is.

the E-Manage Ultimate doesn't have anti-lag as such but you can programme it to build boost on the launch control and also with the flat shift feature you don't need anti-lag, Adrian at Fensport uses the same programming set up although through a MoTeC as he found it shortened his 1/4 mile times.

With that sort of power figure the E-Manage Ultimate is more that enough, you will also be able to ditch the AFM which is the weakest link in the 185 after the headgasket, whilst mapping my own GT-Four i found the AFM to essentially slap open and then bounce untill a steady air flow was reached this lead to irregular air-fuel ratio's, i'm guessing this is why toyota had the ECU's programmed on the rich side to ensure it didn't run lean and why so many 185's have suffered engine damage due to tight engine mapping.

P.S. Ian, could you send my congratulations to Marc on the starting of his family, i hadn't heard as i also took a step out of the car scene to start one of my own

I passed on your wishes and Marc sent the following to pass onto you:

"Please could you extend my regards to him and congratulate him on his own new arrival and wish him and his family all the best for now and the future."

I know he's very busy - imagine having a we'en and shifting to a new garage in the same month!!! Nappies in the intercooler and oily rags round the we'en...???

[GTForbes]

lol, sounds like my house at the best of times and i'm not even running a garage!