Civic Type R

[T Sport 1978]

Jct 19 of M25, long straight joining the motorway...

Level and rolling start, red lines all the way to 5th...

Type R ended up 4 car lengths in front 1 mile later... :(

I put it down to the fact i have 5 doors, stock and a full tank of fuel.

Anyway, thought i'd share my pain with you all.

[215 compressor]

Jct 19 of M25, long straight joining the motorway...

Level and rolling start, red lines all the way to 5th...

Type R ended up 4 car lengths in front 1 mile later... :(

I put it down to the fact i have 5 doors, stock and a full tank of fuel.

Anyway, thought i'd share my pain with you all.

tis a sad day must be time for a few mods . :(

[Red Yaris 54]

Jct 19 of M25, long straight joining the motorway...

Level and rolling start, red lines all the way to 5th...

Type R ended up 4 car lengths in front 1 mile later... :(

I put it down to the fact i have 5 doors, stock and a full tank of fuel.

Anyway, thought i'd share my pain with you all.

TOC doe not condone posts on this forum boasting about racing on public roads and by implication (Red lines all the way to 5th)......Exceeding the legal speed limit.

Please keep your posts about racing and speeding for the race track..............It has no place on these forums or public roads

[K19NE G]

Jct 19 of M25, long straight joining the motorway...

Level and rolling start, red lines all the way to 5th...

Type R ended up 4 car lengths in front 1 mile later... :(

I put it down to the fact i have 5 doors, stock and a full tank of fuel.

Anyway, thought i'd share my pain with you all.

Was the Type R standard!?!?

[Kev Mc]

Aren't Civic Type R's miles quicker than CTS' anyway? I wouldn't have considered that a shock tbh

[borodaz]

type r does edge away they have more bhp bigger engine better set up better gear ratio, of course they get away from us, my friend has one and he too was about 4 car lengths infront at the end, but he had typhoon and high spec exhaust, myn was standard and he was infront to start with so got on power quicker. but type r will beat us yes lol

[cayman]

type r does edge away they have more bhp bigger engine better set up better gear ratio, of course they get away from us, my friend has one and he too was about 4 car lengths infront at the end, but he had typhoon and high spec exhaust, myn was standard and he was infront to start with so got on power quicker. but type r will beat us yes lol

Nothing to be ashamed about! I think the CTS is one of the best VFM car out there!

Compare with what is available on the market at present, our car is cheaper to buy and run (Cheap insurance and fuel). Score better on safety goodies and better to own as a daily driver. Our car does not attract car thieves or vandals.

I can well afford a Type R(My other car is a E46 M3 and A Porsche Cayman S) but ended up buying a CTS for the fact it is a great Q-car! Unlike my other car at home, I can drive and park the CTS anywhere in UK without any worries!

[ae102]

type r does edge away they have more bhp bigger engine better set up better gear ratio, of course they get away from us, my friend has one and he too was about 4 car lengths infront at the end, but he had typhoon and high spec exhaust, myn was standard and he was infront to start with so got on power quicker. but type r will beat us yes lol

Nothing to be ashamed about! I think the CTS is one of the best VFM car out there!

Compare with what is available on the market at present, our car is cheaper to buy and run (Cheap insurance and fuel). Score better on safety goodies and better to own as a daily driver. Our car does not attract car thieves or vandals.

I can well afford a Type R(My other car is a E46 M3 and A Porsche Cayman S) but ended up buying a CTS for the fact it is a great Q-car! Unlike my other car at home, I can drive and park the CTS anywhere in UK without any worries!

you aint bin to st anns then!!

[farhanali89]

type rs are rapid the compressor if standard needs tuning alot of type rs can be modded with chips etc so you dont know what people have under the bonnet the t sports are less known hence less modification parts are sold butmod the car and give it a go. Type rs are quality cars though

[ae102]

Jct 19 of M25, long straight joining the motorway...

Level and rolling start, red lines all the way to 5th...

Type R ended up 4 car lengths in front 1 mile later... :(

I put it down to the fact i have 5 doors, stock and a full tank of fuel.

Anyway, thought i'd share my pain with you all.

135mph on the m25! you get caught racing at that speed you likely get a lil bit of bird :( ............ do it on your own you more likely just to get a ban. did you notice when you changed to 6th there was nothing there? oh ye - i put it down to them being a faster car! never managed to engage a type r - never found them keen to ave it.

[blackcts]

I'd love to have a go at a TYPE-R....the thing is with the CTS you really have to grab it by the throat to get it to properly shift. I've been really impressed by the power of mine over the last few weeks....

I would expect to lose, but i would be a bit disappointed TBH if a standard one pulled 4 car lengths. Lots of CTR's are doing the 1/4 mile in the 14sec range standard....

[SW 88]

Got 138 mph the weekend (on my own private road of course ), changed up to 6th but not a lot there, bout 400rpm left but didn't seem to want to pull much more .

Good fun though :D

[T Sport 1978]

Jct 19 of M25, long straight joining the motorway...

Level and rolling start, red lines all the way to 5th...

Type R ended up 4 car lengths in front 1 mile later... :(

I put it down to the fact i have 5 doors, stock and a full tank of fuel.

Anyway, thought i'd share my pain with you all.

Was the Type R standard!?!?

Sorry for coming across as a boy/man racer, didn't mean to endorse speeding.

The type R had an after market exhaust, it was blurring out a very deep note.

[T Sport 1978]

Jct 19 of M25, long straight joining the motorway...

Level and rolling start, red lines all the way to 5th...

Type R ended up 4 car lengths in front 1 mile later... :(

I put it down to the fact i have 5 doors, stock and a full tank of fuel.

Anyway, thought i'd share my pain with you all.

135mph on the m25! you get caught racing at that speed you likely get a lil bit of bird :( ............ do it on your own you more likely just to get a ban. did you notice when you changed to 6th there was nothing there? oh ye - i put it down to them being a faster car! never managed to engage a type r - never found them keen to ave it.

I really should say no more regarding my speed...

As for 6th, i didn't even bother chaging up to there.

[ae102]

we all do it lad!! :D them that complain usually cant..... the car gives it away. all i'm saying mate is do it on yer own. strange how we get really anal mods on here. is this why the number of posts is on the decline? do tsowners have the same policy?

[blackcts]

we all do it lad!! :D them that complain usually cant..... the car gives it away. all i'm saying mate is do it on yer own. strange how we get really anal mods on here. is this why the number of posts is on the decline? do tsowners have the same policy?

Thought that myself...no offense intended but i noticed in 'Red Yaris 54's' signature it says 'Remember you can live in your car, but you cant race your house'.....surely that isnt much better....

Why buy a fast car if you are going to drive it like a granny??? Although I dont agree with naming speeds and public roads...i think its asking for trouble.

[handicap7]

Sorry but i may be wrong?

I keep seeing posts on this forum regarding the CTS vs CTR and how people keep getting beat by the CTR! I may be mistaken but isn't the CTR a 2 litre?

That would surely mean that a CTS is giving away 200cc? Given that both cars are quite light and of a similar size/shape that must make quite a difference?

[T Sport 1978]

Sorry but i may be wrong?

I keep seeing posts on this forum regarding the CTS vs CTR and how people keep getting beat by the CTR! I may be mistaken but isn't the CTR a 2 litre?

That would surely mean that a CTS is giving away 200cc? Given that both cars are quite light and of a similar size/shape that must make quite a difference?

Of course you are right about it being a 2l...

Its just that the civic and corolla were both spawned from the same purpose... MASS MARKET HATCH from 2 of Japan's rivalries. Both CTS and CTR have high revving 4cyl N/A engines with lift, the comparisons are inevitable.

I honestly believe that a 3dr CTR will give a stock CTS a run for its' money.

[handicap7]

Sorry but i may be wrong?

I keep seeing posts on this forum regarding the CTS vs CTR and how people keep getting beat by the CTR! I may be mistaken but isn't the CTR a 2 litre?

That would surely mean that a CTS is giving away 200cc? Given that both cars are quite light and of a similar size/shape that must make quite a difference?

Of course you are right about it being a 2l...

Its just that the civic and corolla were both spawned from the same purpose... MASS MARKET HATCH from 2 of Japan's rivalries. Both CTS and CTR have high revving 4cyl N/A engines with lift, the comparisons are inevitable.

I honestly believe that a 3dr CTR will give a stock CTS a run for its' money.

Giving it a run for it's money is one thing however a CTR is still quicker 0-60, has more bhp, better handling and an extra 200cc! The CTS does not have the luxury of being able to be re-chipped or re-mapped as the CTR does i think at best we can add a TTE or after market exhaust, work on the suspension and fit an induction kit which at the cost of a lot of beer tokens only puts up the actual bhp to about 205 and we still have 200cc less than the CTR. Please do not get me wrong!! i absolutely love my CTS and would only trade it in if a Compressor came up at the right price! however we should just enjoy the CTS for what it is (!Removed! good fun) and a car that does not have to prove itself to anyone! Toyota's have done that for years!! :)

[farhanali89]

the ctr is quick but depending on modifications it does matter there are plenty of things people do to their cars for simple mods people get air filters exhaust changes. A full custom made aftermarket exhaust system could make a change for a cts along with alloys light alloys is a proper difference gettin lighter alloys on your cts will drastically improve your performance also the tyres tons of things can make a real difference to your car. Lowering gives more grip etc you have to experiment with the car.

A type r is a very slim sleek car it visually looks rapid like a snake

the cts is seems a bit less larger for some odd reason it doesnt look as viscious but it does luk hell quick on the move you have to play around with the mods you need to know what to do.

As for stock cars i reckon ctr is quicker because of the extra 200cc and quite frankly off the foot the ctr is slightly more rapid where as the t sport does have a lag in pick up till lift. Its a tricky game.

[choading]

:)

[Ed_Shek]

If you want to beat a CTR then a good starting point is to get a CTR.

I've driven a CTR and it indeed is quicker than my CTS. Car handles alot better but rides firmer hence I'm happy with my CTS and its a good compromise between speed and comfort.

[fisel]

If you want to beat a CTR then a good starting point is to get a CTR.

Yep

I think some people get a little carried away.

It’s always “if you get an induction kit and a customer exhaust you can beat a type-r”. With that principle I could say “an STi or M3 is faster than a CTS but if you spend a several thousand £’s you could make the CTS faster”.

Also I disagree with the people saying you get more for your money with the CTS. First off the CTR has a better residual value. It is barebone compared to the CTS but with it you get better tyres, alloys, breaks, gearbox, clutch, suspension.. therefore, you don’t get more for your money with a CTS. The Exige S has even less equipment than the CTR and it has the same engine as the CTS but with it you could buy 2 CTR’s and still have change left. You get what you pay for.

The CTR and CTS have the same concept engine wise but apart from that they are both unique.

[Dave567]

I think value for money is a personal preference. I was dead set on a civic type r before I drove a cts at a dealers and sat back and thought about the 2 cars.

I managed to get a 54 reg cts with leather and alcantara interior, climate control, traction control etc all the bits we enjoy as standard from a main toyota dealers for the price I would of paid for an 02 reg bog standard no air ctr in a private sale.

In terms of value for money in what I was gettin cts wins hands down in equipment. I then looked further into insurance and running costs and thought cts should be slightly cheaper.

But I know for a fact after driving both cars over a period of time the ctr is quicker and handles better but when you think about the roads we all drive on back and too to work and odd weekend drives are we really going to get spanked by a ctr.......... NO

There would be hardly anything in it because in real world driving the differences between the two cars is pretty much dicounted by the fact the roads we drive on dont allow you to fully use a car to its potential.

The end of my rant has come to the outcome of ctr and cts are both very good cars with quite unique engines compared to most cars about and it is down to personal preference and running costs that deterime which offers better value.

[fisel]

It certainly does boil down to personal preference. I still live at home and work about 1 mile away from where I live, I mostly drive in the evenings and at night. I love the CTS but the only reason why I have it is because I cant afford the insurance on a Type-r. I pay almost £1600 now while most people on here are paying around £1000 less than that, so to pay £1000 to insure a Type-r wouldn’t be an issue. IMO value for money doesn’t really count, you get a lot more for your money with a CTS than you do with a Murcielago but that obviously wouldn’t be the deciding factor. It all boils down to personal preference and what you can afford.