Tyre Rotation On A T180

[Manxrav]

As the title suggests I am seriously wondering about doing this on my T180-Two questions,

1- With only 4 wheels and no spare how do you do it?

2- Do you have to have each individual TPM recalibrated by the Main Dealer when you changed them(Wheels& Tyres) round?

Reason for doing it is basically that when I had it serviced the other week on the service report it gave the Tyre wear and the front ones have now got half as much tread as the rears.

Clare

[sywy]

with my old car, also only 4 wheels, I used to get the dealer to rotate them at service time.

I think any tyre fitter will rotate the wheels for you for a small fee. Not sure about the TPMS though. I don't think it's that clever that it know which tyre is on which corner as there's only one warning light?

[anchorman]

Rotating 4 tyres is done like this - fig B

With the TPWS you might have a snag because as you can see the front and rear wheels have seperate radio receivers and they could be tuned differently.

You would have to ask the Toyota garage for advice on yet another restrictive aspect of this derisory system. Knowing how much they love taking your money I would take your credit card.

Good luck.

[bothwell_buyer]

I quit swapping tyres about years ago. The tyre takes a wear pattern that relates to the direction of motion and to the camber. By switching things about, you then minimise the tread footprint left holding onto the road surface. Reversing the motion could lead to imbalance when the tyre surface settles into its new role. In the meantime, friction on the road means an effect on the braking efficiency.

Years ago it was common practice with cross plies, but then vehicle speed and acceleration was far slower.

The tyres on my RAV are now directional, so I even have a potential problem carrying just 1 spare wheel!

What you do need to watch is rubber deterioration on the rears when they last longer - effects of sun; water etc. The LR I picked up last week sports 5 mud Colways all of which are knackered - cuts; rubber degradation; the remould tread coming off the main fabric of the tyre; and the tyres are not that old. Comes down to use.

Through the charity I'm involved in, we got to re-use tons of used tyres >>> it was interesting looking at the damage to the structure of some tyres even though the tread was ok. Now they get used to help our fitness classes.

[cfc1]

Tyre rotation

Tyre rotation is vital to achieving even tread wear and long tread life. Rotation is necessary because of the uneven wear characteristics of each wheel position on the vehicle. A good example is Front Wheel Drive vehicles which places braking, steering and driving forces on the front axle tyres. Rear axle tyres only receive braking forces resulting in a much faster wear rate for the front axle tyres. Tyre rotation for these vehicles therefore becomes very important for optimum tyre life.

Tyre rotation should be undertaken every 5,000 to 8,000 kilometres:

EVEN IF THERE IS NO SIGN OF UNEVEN WEAR

Cross Rotation

The "Cross Pattern" provides the best results and can be performed on any Front or Rear Wheel Drive vehicle equipped with 4 non-unidirectional tyres. (Unidirectional tyres must be rotated front to rear only.)

NOTE: Free rolling axle tyres are crossed and installed to the drive axle, while the drive axle tyres are brought straight to the free rolling axle (without crossing).

Vehicles equipped with permanent 4-Wheel Drive and those with "on Command" 4-Wheel Drive and driven mainly in 4-Wheel mode, are best suited to a four tyre cross rotation. With this pattern, tyres from both axles are crossed and installed on the opposing axle.

Straight Rotation

Straight Rotation was developed in the early years of radial tyres. This rotation method simply replaces the front to rear and rear to front.

5 Tyre Rotation

If the vehicle owner has a regular tyre as a spare tyre and wishes to include it in the tyre rotation process, the proper procedure is to use the appropriate rotation pattern shown for 4 Tyre Rotation, BUT insert the spare in the right rear position. Place the tyre which would have gone to the right rear in the trunk as the new spare.

Note: Never include a temporary spare tyre in the rotation.

IMPORTANT: Unidirectional treads are designed to perform in the direction denoted on the tyre sidewall only. They must always be rotated front to rear - despite the type of vehicle they are installed on - so the direction of the revolution does not change.

[anchorman]

I have heard it argued that ABS and VSC can start to give irratic performance if the tyres are not rotated due to the change in rolling radius. I have to admit I don't rotate mine and have never had any problems. I will also bring the spare into the loop the first time I need tyres for the front. I will buy 1 tyre of the same brand and fit the spare to the other. I reckon nowt to having such an expensive ornament hanging on the back door. A useable and legal tyre can have a ride around!

IMHO

[bothwell_buyer]

Tyre rotation

Tyre rotation is vital to achieving even tread wear and long tread life. Rotation is necessary because of the uneven wear characteristics of each wheel position on the vehicle. A good example is Front Wheel Drive vehicles which places braking, steering and driving forces on the front axle tyres. Rear axle tyres only receive braking forces resulting in a much faster wear rate for the front axle tyres. Tyre rotation for these vehicles therefore becomes very important for optimum tyre life.

Tyre rotation should be undertaken every 5,000 to 8,000 kilometres:

EVEN IF THERE IS NO SIGN OF UNEVEN WEAR

Cross Rotation

The "Cross Pattern" provides the best results and can be performed on any Front or Rear Wheel Drive vehicle equipped with 4 non-unidirectional tyres. (Unidirectional tyres must be rotated front to rear only.)

NOTE: Free rolling axle tyres are crossed and installed to the drive axle, while the drive axle tyres are brought straight to the free rolling axle (without crossing).

Vehicles equipped with permanent 4-Wheel Drive and those with "on Command" 4-Wheel Drive and driven mainly in 4-Wheel mode, are best suited to a four tyre cross rotation. With this pattern, tyres from both axles are crossed and installed on the opposing axle.

Straight Rotation

Straight Rotation was developed in the early years of radial tyres. This rotation method simply replaces the front to rear and rear to front.

5 Tyre Rotation

If the vehicle owner has a regular tyre as a spare tyre and wishes to include it in the tyre rotation process, the proper procedure is to use the appropriate rotation pattern shown for 4 Tyre Rotation, BUT insert the spare in the right rear position. Place the tyre which would have gone to the right rear in the trunk as the new spare.

Note: Never include a temporary spare tyre in the rotation.

IMPORTANT: Unidirectional treads are designed to perform in the direction denoted on the tyre sidewall only. They must always be rotated front to rear - despite the type of vehicle they are installed on - so the direction of the revolution does not change.

thanks for confirming what i said...??

[duncerduncs]

Clare,

You do have to have each tyre re-programmed when you rotate them!

I asked my local Mr T last year about this last year and they were happy to do it for free...

[Manxrav]

Cheers Dance,that was what I really want to know. I,ll contact my main dealer to see how much they will charge, cause as eggs are eggs mine will charge me

Clare