The Mobile Phone Saga........

[three5]

Hi folks,

collected the XT5 D-4D on Monday - definitely not disappointed other than with the lack of a spare wheel. Got the tow bar ordered and the electrics kit + an iPod kit from Kingo ( God bless him! ). Decided, without a great deal of confidence, to try my luck with the mobile phone connection this morning. It's a Nokia and it wouldn't connect. Went down to the Carphone Whorehouse armed with the Toyota Owners Manual and the knowledge gained from reading the forum. Explained the problem and asked to try some of their phones in the car. The Sony Erricson K800i worked fine straight out of the box - no supprises so far. Told the assistant I was currently with Orange. She informed me that I could have the same phone £10 cheaper if it was branded as Orange. She got one out and spent a fruitless half hour trying to get it to talk to the car kit. She then went to speak to the engineer who said it was likely to be a software issue AS THE SOFTWARE LOADED INTO A BRANDED PHONE WAS CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT TO THAT LOADED INTO THE GENERIC VARIANT. He thought that one of the reasons that branded phones were cheaper was the cut down version of the manufacturer's software probably a reduced licence fee arrangement. The generic version of the phone was then reconnected without problem.

Not sure what the moral of this is but we can hardly lay the blame for the problem on Mr T if he not only has to test the manufacturers software on his in-car system but all the variants developed by the different service providers worldwide. The same problem sometimes occurs in the software industry when programmers don't stick to standards - usually ends up with Microsoft getting it in the kneck for that. It's hardly supprising that Mr T hasn't got a list of compatible phones though.

Maybe the first thing to try if you have connection problems is getting the phone unlocked and the generic software loaded? It's not so easy if you use a company mobile though.

Best regards

Chris

PS Kingo's i-Pod kit was out of stock and has to come from Japan - should be here by middle of next week. Is it possible that he moonlights as a pilot for JAL?

[anchorman]

Kingo owns JAL.

Enjoy the new car mate!

[Hoovie]

Seems to be a too-common problem, this one

How about people post the phone they have (and if it is network branded, OEM, etc) and their car so we build our own database of compatible phones, at least as an initial start? :)

[Parts-King]

On the subject of compatability, Toyota dont do a list as mentioned, however, they DO recommend you always download the latest software to your brand new phone, the N95 and others wouldnt connect with the original settings but have been OK with a firmware upgrade

I did an upgrade to my own phone last night, I have now deleted all the sh*8 ringtones that came with with it and produced my own from favourite songs, I can feel a whole new career coming on.........better than flying JAL everyday

Kingo

[chatman]

On the subject of compatability, Toyota dont do a list as mentioned, however, they DO recommend you always download the latest software to your brand new phone, the N95 and others wouldnt connect with the original settings but have been OK with a firmware upgrade

I did an upgrade to my own phone last night, I have now deleted all the sh*8 ringtones that came with with it and produced my own from favourite songs, I can feel a whole new career coming on.........better than flying JAL everyday

Kingo

Brotherhood of man live again then Kingo!!!!! :lol: :lol:

Work just upgraded my phone to this little beauty.Blackberry Curve.... Has bluetooth voice recognition software included brilliant just turn on my head set and never need to touch the phone.......Coincidently a guy at work just got his new Mondeo Titanium TDI, this has bluetooth as well, but is rubbish.... has trouble getting his HTC phone to connect and other one's we were trying today, good for turning the sat nav on and off and air con.....

[bothwell_buyer]

Well, I've got remote control garden lights and pond pumps aroon the hoose, an I've got remote control lights on ma stairs; and use LEDs fur saving energy; and ah wis oan the radio the day an the boy came oot personally tae interview me so there!

An ah can wurk they lights frae ma RAV tae. remote. Nae valves. Nae raspberries.

Oh, I forgot - some of you still hae tae wurk fur a living!

[shcm]

'tis a bit mad. The link to the list of phone posted by sheathy in this thread:

http://toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78003

list again:

http://www.toyota-europe.com/own/bluetooth...th_connect.aspx

has the Palm treo 650 as being completely incompatible, yet mine works with the XT5/T180 kit. Admittedly I had to upgrade the operating system of the phone and bulk transfer and Battery indication doesn't work, but apart from that it seems to be OK.

bluetooth is supposed to have a set of protocol standards and they should be just that - standard IMHO. I expect there's an irrational explanation for it all, perhaps I should research it a bit more, before I vent my spleen. I agree it's not all (if any) Toyota's fault.

Thanks (not!) for reconnecting my neurons related to Brother Hood of Man Chatman!

As for headsets....you mark my words, you'll all get converted to cybermen . The office looks full of them already :help2:

......can't get it out of my head now.................save your...kisses.....tum-te-tum.........angelo...la........la..........oh oh figaro.......OH B**GER!

[Parts-King]

Hurricane Smith, XTC, T Rex and Slade are the current offerings.........Guess I am a sad 70's geezer as Mrs Kingo calls me As for bluetooth, forget it, I just turn me phone off in the car, its a lot easier :D:

Kingo

[chatman]

Thanks (not!) for reconnecting my neurons related to Brother Hood of Man Chatman!

As for headsets....you mark my words, you'll all get converted to cybermen . The office looks full of them already :help2:

......can't get it out of my head now.................save your...kisses.....tum-te-tum.........angelo...la........la..........oh oh figaro.......OH B**GER!

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Well, I've got remote control garden lights and pond pumps aroon the hoose, an I've got remote control lights on ma stairs; and use LEDs fur saving energy; and ah wis oan the radio the day an the boy came oot personally tae interview me so there!

An ah can wurk they lights frae ma RAV tae. remote. Nae valves. Nae raspberries.

Oh, I forgot - some of you still hae tae wurk fur a living!

And I bet you have a remote control to go to the lav as well Bothy :sick: ...or have you fitted the Recaro Commode seat in the RAV Turbo Nutter yet..... :bag:

[Hoovie]

Work just upgraded my phone to this little beauty. Blackberry Curve....

Company I work for are not quite as advanced ...... My official work mobile is a Nokia 6210i - think they discountinued those about 6 years ago ??

But on the plus side, it is newer then some of my colleagues - they have Nokia 5210s still

What is bluetooth for again?? :D

[bothwell_buyer]

Work just upgraded my phone to this little beauty. Blackberry Curve....

Company I work for are not quite as advanced ...... My official work mobile is a Nokia 6210i - think they discountinued those about 6 years ago ??

But on the plus side, it is newer then some of my colleagues - they have Nokia 5210s still

What is bluetooth for again?? :D

Its the antidote for blue tongue!

[shcm]

What is Bluetooth for again?? :D

Making something that used to be done quickly and easily with a couple of bits of wire overly complicated and time consuming

....... oh and you can walk around the office or an airport wearing a headset and look really cool(?) ;) (or what ever word the yoofs use in these modern times)

[chatman]

What is Bluetooth for again?? :D

Making something that used to be done quickly and easily with a couple of bits of wire overly complicated and time consuming

....... oh and you can walk around the office or an airport wearing a headset and look really cool(?) ;) (or what ever word the yoofs use in these modern times)

Or walk around train stations and walk into posts as I witnessed yesterday, whilst waiting at Leeds station..... :lol: :lol:

Must have hurt the guy but the sight of me and my colleges laughing out load and almost chocking on my coffee, think took some embarrassment from him :lol2: :lol2:

[bothwell_buyer]

And I bet you have a remote control to go to the lav as well Bothy sick.gif sick.gif ...or have you fitted the Recaro Commode seat in the RAV Turbo Nutter yet..... bag.gif bag.gif

Funny that - I wondered what the slot was for - now I know I'll drill a hole in the floor and will need a sign from anchorman instructing on not png when at a station

[shcm]

Its the antidote for blue tongue!

Is that another name for ****ing Tourettes? :D Only kidding, I know it's a not nice debilitating disorder.

Or walk around train stations and walk into posts as I witnessed yesterday, whilst waiting at Leeds station..... :lol: :lol:

Must have hurt the guy but the sight of me and my colleges laughing out load and almost chocking on my coffee, think took some embarrassment from him :lol2: :lol2:

:lol2: Would loved to have seen that! - The chap walking into the post, not you chocking on the coffee..............then again perhaps both :D

[anchorman]

shcm - you're alive!

Well I have news for you technophobes. We get gas and electric in Chapel soon and not only that my kettle whistles when its been on the fire for long enough.

And I would see the dentist if you can afford it, this blue tooth thing doesn't sound healthy unless its because you've been eating blackberries.

[bothwell_buyer]

shcm - you're alive!

Well I have news for you technophobes. We get gas and electric in Chapel soon and not only that my kettle whistles when its been on the fire for long enough.

And I would see the dentist if you can afford it, this blue tooth thing doesn't sound healthy unless its because you've been eating blackberries.

We've got gas and electricity in oor chapel tae.

[shcm]

shcm - you're alive!

Nah, I'm just a piece of software that passes the Turing test.

Well I have news for you technophobes. We get gas and electric in Chapel soon and not only that my kettle whistles when its been on the fire for long enough.

Yeah and the only reason you have to get up early for that train of yours is to get the boiler going 4hrs before I suppose. Still, no traction problems with leaves I guess.

We've got gas and electricity in oor chapel tae.

All this Chapel stuff sounds a bit Gallic to me ;)

[Mc Tavish]

Does anyone know if the bluetooth kit in 2008 XTR is the same as XT5/T180?

McTavish

[anchorman]

shcm - you're alive!

Nah, I'm just a piece of software that passes the Turing test.

Well I have news for you technophobes. We get gas and electric in Chapel soon and not only that my kettle whistles when its been on the fire for long enough.

Yeah and the only reason you have to get up early for that train of yours is to get the boiler going 4hrs before I suppose. Still, no traction problems with leaves I guess.

We've got gas and electricity in oor chapel tae.

All this Chapel stuff sounds a bit Gallic to me ;)

Hey Mr software just remind me how to use those quotes. When I try to do it I get all of the post!

[bothwell_buyer]

shcm - you're alive!

Nah, I'm just a piece of software that passes the Turing test.

Well I have news for you technophobes. We get gas and electric in Chapel soon and not only that my kettle whistles when its been on the fire for long enough.

Yeah and the only reason you have to get up early for that train of yours is to get the boiler going 4hrs before I suppose. Still, no traction problems with leaves I guess.

We've got gas and electricity in oor chapel tae.

All this Chapel stuff sounds a bit Gallic to me ;)

Hey Mr software just remind me how to use those quotes. When I try to do it I get all of the post!

Haha - stick tae yer day job!! Least ye have wan!

[duncerduncs]

Does anyone know if the bluetooth kit in 2008 XTR is the same as XT5/T180?

McTavish

It's not I'm afraid, the bluetooth on the XT5/T180 is built into the sat-nav unit. The XTR has an after market Motorola kit (which is very good, I must add)

[Yossarian]

Does anyone know if the bluetooth kit in 2008 XTR is the same as XT5/T180?

McTavish

It's not I'm afraid, the bluetooth on the XT5/T180 is built into the sat-nav unit. The XTR has an after market Motorola kit (which is very good, I must add)

Mine isn't 'very good' yet: I couldn't get it to respond to my voice let alone link to my phone. (I might have known that that bit wasn't Japanese!) Got it booked in to the dealer for a possible replacement unit and I'm hoping that it will work with my Treo 680 when it's sorted.

The rest of the car (900 miles so far) is fantastic.