Squeaky Brakes

[balli hi]

took delivery of my auris tr on march 31st , the brakes started squealing the next day, i phoned the dealer straight away. they told me that the squeal is caused by the pads moving slightly in the calipers and thats why they squeal, there is a modification part for the calipers, but there is a back order for the parts, they have booked me in for the 12th of may.... not happy.. they know all about this fault yet still let me drive away with the fault. why were the brakes not modified before i took collection?. it seems they are happy to simply sell cars and then deal with the problem after you have bought the car. after reading about the washer jet problem on the forum , i checked mine , it seems i have that problem too, where the washer jets hit too low. i contacted my dealer about this as well, however they are not aware of any problems with the washer jets, but will check them out when it goes in for the brakes. this car is my first ever toyota , not sure at this stage i will ever buy another. my car also seems to over rev itself between gear change, i.e , when your foot comes off the gas and your left foot is on the clutch. does any one else,s auris tr 1.6 do this?.... will let you guys know how i get on, on the 12th of may.

[Parts-King]

It is not nice to have a problem with your brand new car and it is an annoying squeal, but dont get hung up about it being a "fault" It is caused by a resonance between the pad and caliper and is perfectly safe to drive, and will not affect the braking performance at all. Your dealer will change the jets for you under warranty. The over rev you describe is NOT a fault, you will get used to it the more you drive the car, without going into too much detail, its an emissions feature. The modified brake pads and special shims are in short supply, but will fix your problem as soon as fitted, mine is perfect now

Kingo

[Aldridge Andy]

Toyota had a reputation for a higher level of build quality, service, and after sales compared to other leading manufacturers. The "other" manufacturers have simply caught up and overtaken Toyota.

My father has a 1996 Toyota Corolla which he has owned from new. The build standard is excellent, as is the quality of trim meterials. Some trim may not look "premuim" but the fit and durability are excellent. The dealership where the car was brough from, and I subseqently brought a 1997 G6 Corolla from also made you feel you were buying a quality item, which in truth you were. Now the smaller independant garages have gone, well from round here anyway, to be replaced by "Toyota World's".

Having been in and out of a few Auris over the past six months, I'd hate to think what they will be like at twelve years old. One T180 I drove was an 07 plate, 6,000 demonstrator that had just come to the end of it's demonstrator duties. The trim internally was shoing signs of Aging, the upper glove box lid was seriously affected by something on someones hand it had come in to contact with. The plus point was that unlike the T180 I had at the time there wasn't a metallic rattling from underneath when you went around a right hand corner.

I honestly believe that the Auris could/will become the thorn in Toyota's side, and they really need to address quite a few issues with this model. I suspect a facelift will be along quite soon in the models life to try and bring things up to scratch.

[balli hi]

It is not nice to have a problem with your brand new car and it is an annoying squeal, but dont get hung up about it being a "fault" It is caused by a resonance between the pad and caliper and is perfectly safe to drive, and will not affect the braking performance at all. Your dealer will change the jets for you under warranty. The over rev you describe is NOT a fault, you will get used to it the more you drive the car, without going into too much detail, its an emissions feature. The modified brake pads and special shims are in short supply, but will fix your problem as soon as fitted, mine is perfect now

Kingo

hi kingo, it,s nice to be reassured , so thanks for that. i was aware from what the toyota service department told me, that the brakes would work perfectly well, so maybe my choice of word :fault:, was not the right one . however new cars are not cheap, and i d,ont expect to buy a new car and have it squealing around essex . . had the demo model , that i test drove , made this horrible high pitch squeal, i would have looked elsewhere. one would assume that the auris model would have been tested thoroughly before production, and thats my point...... what with squealing brakes, incorrectly positioned washer jets, people reporting their auris rolling away when left on an incline,with the hand brake applied, { that last one being very serious } in my book. it does make me wonder just how safe and reliable the auris will turn out to be, only time will tell i guess.... my last car was a ford escort finesse 1.6, which i bought from new, in 1998. i part exchanged it against the auris. i had that car for ten years and in that time it never went wrong once, it always started first time and still had the original Battery, it never went back to fords once for anything other than servicing. so maybe i,ve been spoiled, or you might say lucky..... so based on my previous car, i feel a little disappointed with this one so far. hopefully once it goes in for the modified parts that will be the end of it , and i can enjoy 10 years trouble free motoring with the auris. :)

[balli hi]

It is not nice to have a problem with your brand new car and it is an annoying squeal, but dont get hung up about it being a "fault" It is caused by a resonance between the pad and caliper and is perfectly safe to drive, and will not affect the braking performance at all. Your dealer will change the jets for you under warranty. The over rev you describe is NOT a fault, you will get used to it the more you drive the car, without going into too much detail, its an emissions feature. The modified brake pads and special shims are in short supply, but will fix your problem as soon as fitted, mine is perfect now

Kingo

hi kingo, it,s nice to be reassured , so thanks for that. i was aware from what the toyota service department told me, that the brakes would work perfectly well, so maybe my choice of word :fault:, was not the right one . however new cars are not cheap, and i d,ont expect to buy a new car and have it squealing around essex . . had the demo model , that i test drove , made this horrible high pitch squeal, i would have looked elsewhere. one would assume that the auris model would have been tested thoroughly before production, and thats my point...... what with squealing brakes, incorrectly positioned washer jets, people reporting their auris rolling away when left on an incline,with the hand brake applied, { that last one being very serious } in my book. it does make me wonder just how safe and reliable the auris will turn out to be, only time will tell i guess.... my last car was a ford escort finesse 1.6, which i bought from new, in 1998. i part exchanged it against the auris. i had that car for ten years and in that time it never went wrong once, it always started first time and still had the original Battery, it never went back to fords once for anything other than servicing. so maybe i,ve been spoiled, or you might say lucky..... so based on my previous car, i feel a little disappointed with this one so far. hopefully once it goes in for the modified parts that will be the end of it , and i can enjoy 10 years trouble free motoring with the auris. :)

well, the car finally went in for the brakes yesterday,and i am pleased to report that the squeake has finally gone I hope for good......the car was also booked in for the washer jets & rusty wheel nuts,.... well it seems my dealership have had a change of heart, and are now telling me that there is nothing wrong with the washer jets, because '' they are designed to work like that'' , and if i want them changed to +2degrees, i will have to pay for them, as they are not covered under warranty. I argued that other dealers are changing them under warranty so why can't they?.. they replied that they spoke to toyota, and were told that its not a warranty issue :censor:. Why is it some dealers are changing them without arguement, and others are not ?... anyway to make matters worse, they have failed to change the rusty wheel nuts :censor: ''But not to worry sir, we have orderd you 10, so if you would like to pop the car back when they are in we'll fit them for you'' :censor: I asked as to why they have orderd 10, because only 2 were rusty? '' er it says 10 on the job sheet sir''.... ah says me, that'll explain why they keep an abacus behind the service counter

anyway i definately want the +2degrees washer jets but am dammed if i am going to pay for them... anyone got any suggestions as to what i can do, other than try another dealers ? any sensible answers will be deeply appreciated , thanks in advance

[balli hi]

It is not nice to have a problem with your brand new car and it is an annoying squeal, but dont get hung up about it being a "fault" It is caused by a resonance between the pad and caliper and is perfectly safe to drive, and will not affect the braking performance at all. Your dealer will change the jets for you under warranty. The over rev you describe is NOT a fault, you will get used to it the more you drive the car, without going into too much detail, its an emissions feature. The modified brake pads and special shims are in short supply, but will fix your problem as soon as fitted, mine is perfect now

Kingo

hi kingo, it,s nice to be reassured , so thanks for that. i was aware from what the toyota service department told me, that the brakes would work perfectly well, so maybe my choice of word :fault:, was not the right one . however new cars are not cheap, and i d,ont expect to buy a new car and have it squealing around essex . . had the demo model , that i test drove , made this horrible high pitch squeal, i would have looked elsewhere. one would assume that the auris model would have been tested thoroughly before production, and thats my point...... what with squealing brakes, incorrectly positioned washer jets, people reporting their auris rolling away when left on an incline,with the hand brake applied, { that last one being very serious } in my book. it does make me wonder just how safe and reliable the auris will turn out to be, only time will tell i guess.... my last car was a ford escort finesse 1.6, which i bought from new, in 1998. i part exchanged it against the auris. i had that car for ten years and in that time it never went wrong once, it always started first time and still had the original Battery, it never went back to fords once for anything other than servicing. so maybe i,ve been spoiled, or you might say lucky..... so based on my previous car, i feel a little disappointed with this one so far. hopefully once it goes in for the modified parts that will be the end of it , and i can enjoy 10 years trouble free motoring with the auris. :)

well, the car finally went in for the brakes yesterday,and i am pleased to report that the squeake has finally gone I hope for good......the car was also booked in for the washer jets & rusty wheel nuts,.... well it seems my dealership have had a change of heart, and are now telling me that there is nothing wrong with the washer jets, because '' they are designed to work like that'' , and if i want them changed to +2degrees, i will have to pay for them, as they are not covered under warranty. I argued that other dealers are changing them under warranty so why can't they?.. they replied that they spoke to toyota, and were told that its not a warranty issue :censor:. Why is it some dealers are changing them without arguement, and others are not ?... anyway to make matters worse, they have failed to change the rusty wheel nuts :censor: ''But not to worry sir, we have orderd you 10, so if you would like to pop the car back when they are in we'll fit them for you'' :censor: I asked as to why they have orderd 10, because only 2 were rusty? '' er it says 10 on the job sheet sir''.... ah says me, that'll explain why they keep an abacus behind the service counter

anyway i definately want the +2degrees washer jets but am dammed if i am going to pay for them... anyone got any suggestions as to what i can do, other than try another dealers ? any sensible answers will be deeply appreciated , thanks in advance

I should point out that my next nearest dealers, are about 18miles away... so am reluctant to travel.... I just want to know if there is any additional information i could give my dealers other than part numbers to convince them to change the jets under warranty.... cheers

[A.Chan]

mine squeaks but very rare and it depends on what speed I am breaking at. So if there is no problems with the breaks itself I can live with the noise.

[hertsnminds]

my car also seems to over rev itself between gear change, i.e , when your foot comes off the gas and your left foot is on the clutch

Many manufacturers have this feature it is basically a switch under the clutch to blip the throttle and give you a smoother gear change. I don't think it has much to do with emissions as I have had it on cars long before these were an issue.

[Parts-King]

my car also seems to over rev itself between gear change, i.e , when your foot comes off the gas and your left foot is on the clutch

Many manufacturers have this feature it is basically a switch under the clutch to blip the throttle and give you a smoother gear change. I don't think it has much to do with emissions as I have had it on cars long before these were an issue.

It has nothing to do with a switch under the clutch pedal, it is a feature controlled by the ECU and is designed to hold the throttle open momentarily. This is to burn off unburnt fuel in the combustion chamber to meet very strict emmision levels

Kingo

[balli hi]

mine squeaks but very rare and it depends on what speed I am breaking at. So if there is no problems with the breaks itself I can live with the noise.

minor squeaks are probably not a problem to most people i guess... but the squeal on my car was truly ear splitting, and i literally was counting the days for when the car went in for the modified break parts, i should hasten to add though, and iv'e not mentioned this before, but the rear brakes are also making a noise when reverse braking, which is worse in wet weather... and to my annoyance, my dealer also failed to change the rear brakes on the 12th may, even though they told me weeks in advance that the modified parts for front and rear had been ordered.. they said that when they tested the car, there was no noise from the rear, so they did'nt change them,... the dealers i am using is LOOKERS ROMFORD, and i think customer satisfaction from my experiences, is not a priority for them... i took the time to read the limited revues on my next nearest dealers, being LOOKERS RAYLIEGH and LOOKERS CHELMSFORD, and to be quite frank, they are probably worse

[balli hi]

my car also seems to over rev itself between gear change, i.e , when your foot comes off the gas and your left foot is on the clutch

Many manufacturers have this feature it is basically a switch under the clutch to blip the throttle and give you a smoother gear change. I don't think it has much to do with emissions as I have had it on cars long before these were an issue.

hi, its nice to hear other peoples views and experiences, and i can positively add that the over rev is no longer an issue for me, as i am learning to adjust to the car in the way that it feels and drives, and i feel, leaving dealer issues asside, that i am truly starting to love the car now

[phild612]

My dealer in Bristol changed all the parts required for the front brake squeal, and did the back brakes telling me it was a known fault so they thought they'd do it whilst it was having the front brakes done.

They also replaced my front washer jets, to +2's, without charge, after I complained the spray was hitting the screen too low and at motorway speed it hardly got onto the screen at all.

[Parts-King]

We have changed a few under warranty too, go in and play holy stink, you shouldnt have to but...........

Kingo

[balli hi]

We have changed a few under warranty too, go in and play holy stink, you shouldnt have to but...........

Kingo

Hiya Kingo

If only Lookers, could take a leaf out of your book !

I noted from the dealer reviews, that Lindop Brothers, carried a five star rating,

with none other than your good self coming in for high praise

so lets hope some of those rubbish dealers out there can sit up and take notice.

keep up the good work mate

P.S

I was just wondering if SALES KING, would like to give us his views, and maybe could PM me as to where he is based?... could it be Lookers by chance?

[DaveJP]

took delivery of my auris tr on march 31st , the brakes started squealing the next day, i phoned the dealer straight away. they told me that the squeal is caused by the pads moving slightly in the calipers and thats why they squeal, there is a modification part for the calipers, but there is a back order for the parts, they have booked me in for the 12th of may.... not happy.. they know all about this fault yet still let me drive away with the fault. why were the brakes not modified before i took collection?. it seems they are happy to simply sell cars and then deal with the problem after you have bought the car. after reading about the washer jet problem on the forum , i checked mine , it seems i have that problem too, where the washer jets hit too low. i contacted my dealer about this as well, however they are not aware of any problems with the washer jets, but will check them out when it goes in for the brakes. this car is my first ever toyota , not sure at this stage i will ever buy another. my car also seems to over rev itself between gear change, i.e , when your foot comes off the gas and your left foot is on the clutch. does any one else,s auris tr 1.6 do this?.... will let you guys know how i get on, on the 12th of may.