Engine Warning Light

[Don07]

Hi Guys,

I'm driving a 2000 Toyota Corolla and the engine warning light had come on. The card seems to be jerking or shuddering a bit in second and third gear. Just wondering is it a job for the mechanic that costs and arm and a leg or is it something simple. I'm no expert at cars so any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Don.

[leigh852]

Hi Guys,

I'm driving a 2000 Toyota Corolla and the engine warning light had come on. The card seems to be jerking or shuddering a bit in second and third gear. Just wondering is it a job for the mechanic that costs and arm and a leg or is it something simple. I'm no expert at cars so any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Don.

My 01 vvti corolla was doing the same thing when i installed a cheap induction filter, took it out and its fine now the light went off by itself aswell.

[jay13]

warning lights on for a reason matey, you need to find out what the code is, we don't charfge for reading codes, phone local toyota garage?

[catwoman]

Hi Guys,

I'm driving a 2000 Toyota Corolla and the engine warning light had come on. The card seems to be jerking or shuddering a bit in second and third gear. Just wondering is it a job for the mechanic that costs and arm and a leg or is it something simple. I'm no expert at cars so any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Don.

Hello Don,

i also own a X reg Corolla, but i found that going to my local Toyota dealer was a huge mistake!

probably my fault being middle aged blonde woman an' all... but the trouble was, the local Toyota garage was clueless to find out what was wrong and do, but they used the 'Engine Warning Light' as a licence to make money...

The long story short... I ended up paying them £1000 to fix the car... only they didn't fix it, they made it worse.

After some hindsight (that's a wonderful thing btw) i learn the fault i originally had was a minor problem which needed less than £200 to fix. After paying the grand to those toyota-technician idiots, i had to go to another garage and pay them £300 to put right all the things the Toyota garage done wrong!!!

My advice to you is, if it's not too late and your Engine Warning Light is still coming on... take it to your nearest LSUK garage - that's Lucas Service UK - they are very clever bunnies who are very good at diagnostics... my corolla goes very well now!

Hope you don't get ripped off like me, and it all works out okay for you!

meow! =^o^=

catwoman

[ryan g6r]

Hi Guys,

I'm driving a 2000 Toyota Corolla and the engine warning light had come on. The card seems to be jerking or shuddering a bit in second and third gear. Just wondering is it a job for the mechanic that costs and arm and a leg or is it something simple. I'm no expert at cars so any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Don.

Hello Don,

i also own a X reg Corolla, but i found that going to my local Toyota dealer was a huge mistake!

probably my fault being middle aged blonde woman an' all... but the trouble was, the local Toyota garage was clueless to find out what was wrong and do, but they used the 'Engine Warning Light' as a licence to make money...

The long story short... I ended up paying them £1000 to fix the car... only they didn't fix it, they made it worse.

After some hindsight (that's a wonderful thing btw) i learn the fault i originally had was a minor problem which needed less than £200 to fix. After paying the grand to those toyota-technician idiots, i had to go to another garage and pay them £300 to put right all the things the Toyota garage done wrong!!!

My advice to you is, if it's not too late and your Engine Warning Light is still coming on... take it to your nearest LSUK garage - that's Lucas Service UK - they are very clever bunnies who are very good at diagnostics... my corolla goes very well now!

Hope you don't get ripped off like me, and it all works out okay for you!

meow! =^o^=

catwoman

not all toyota technicans r idiots! depends if 1 idiot tech got the job given to them. its prob ur vvt controller by the sounds of it bout £200 4 the part and i advise u let a toyota dealership do it.

[catwoman]

hello ryan,

Perhaps you are right about toyota technicans are not all idiots, but the thing is, the primary function of a Toyota dealership is to sell new cars, the secondary function is to sell pre-owned cars usually up to a few years old, and the service department is generally for simply servicing - oil and filter changes, checking the tyres, empying the ash tray etc..

But complicated diagnostics is for brainy people, best go to LSUK because for them diagnosing problems is a full time job.

no, it was not the VVT controller... it may help you to spray some glass cleaner on your cristal ball? ; )

... the only fault on my corolla turned out to be the advance solenoid, it's made by Lucas, part cost £89.95 plus one hour labour to fit plus VAT. That's about £170 in Total!

However, if you go to my local Toyota service - They are not trained to service Lucas fuel-pumps, so they diagnosed and told me my pump was worn out and needed a rebuild to cost about a grand. Because they were a Toyota outfit i trusted them. I paid them the grand and after when i got the car back i found it was worse then before!

They wrongly diagnosed a faulty advance solenoid for a worn out pump!!

They removed the fuel-pump unnecessarilly and sent it to LSUK who checked it over and sent it back with nothing but a new advance solenoid. LSUK didn't overhaul or rebuild it becasue it was working fine.

But the problem doesn't finish yet, becaue when the toyota tech-monkey got it back he fitted the pump back on the engine wrong!

The car soon broke down and LSUK diagnosed that the pump timing had been set up wrong -

(and that's the same pump that didn't need to be removed by the toyota chumps in the first place!)

removing a fuel-pump is a very expensive thing to do, and really daft if it don't need to be removed!

Toyota Service Cost to fit a new advance solenoid = £1000 plus 4 weeks and two days off the road as they scratch their heads (and their nuts).

Then the car brakes-down and you pay someone else £300 to put right all the things the toyota service did wrong! Total... £1300

LSUK Cost Cost to fit a new advance solenoid = £170 Total... while you wait a little less than 1 hour.

Now I wouldn't trust a Toyota Service department to fix a squeeky wheelbarrow!

catwoman

[jay13]

catwoman, the primary role of any toyota dealership in fact is to achieve 100% customer satisfaction, this includes the fact that if the car isn't fixed right the first time then its free until its correctly running okay, i've rarely heard of work returnng to our garage a second time!

so really the only thing that the toyota tech did was to set up the diesel timing pump wrongly then? was it test driven? if the pump timing was out you would notice straight away!!

so you then say that the work cost you a grand? surely then thats the service managers fault for charging you with an overhauled pump when all they did was to replace the solenoid?

if the pump didn't need to be removed then you should'nt have been charged?

did you ask what work toyota did? if they said that the pump was overhauled then they were obviously wrong to say that it was and a trip to citizens advice would be an idea to stop them from doing it again?

no need to always slate the tech when sometimes its the front of house staff that ubik up?

not getting shirty or anything just saying ;)

[Hogie]

In relation to some of what Jay said, i really really hate dealing with service personnel from main dealers, because for the most part they dont know what they are talking about. Every time iv used a main dealer for any work iv had to ask to speak to the mechanic working on the car to get any sort of information that makes sense. Im not a hard man to deal with by any stretch of the imagination but i hate when someone hasn't understood what they have been told by the mechanic but still tries to b*llsh*t me. That is annoying

[catwoman]

Hello Jay,

the primary role of any Toyota dealership is to make lots of money. They are a corporate buisness and need to pay their top directors fat salories with big bumper bonuses. If you think they are there for our satifaction fulfillment you are living in cloud cuckoo-land! ; )

The problem with my local toyota dealership is the fact they don't have the skills required to diagnose properly, and they really don't care. Sending a whole pump unit off to get a simply job fixed by someone else is rather like removing an engine and sending it to another garage just to change the spark plugs!

Also don't forget they told me beforehand the pump was worn out and needed a rebuild!

My corolla went back to the Toyota dealership at least a dozen times, they could not fix it. What they did do eventually was bodge the engine timing way out, to sinc in with the pump timing that was way out too. They must have known something was wrong but they're not big enough to admit to being unskilled to do the job.

LSUK had to readjust the pump and engine timing after it broke-down from non-starting. It took LSUK a couple of hours to sort out all the mess the Toyota techs did wrong.

I've got every right to slate the tech, he would have known the enging timing was wrong, so why leave it bodged?

Why is the service manager lying to me about what they've done?

My local toyota dealership contravened the supply of goods and services act 1982 by failing to repair my vehicle using reasonable skill and care. I haven't finished with them yet!

My advice to you all, only go to your local Toyota Service Dealership if your 'Engine Warning Light' is amber colour and in the shape of a '£' sign.

(rant over)

...to end on a lighter note, i've owned my corolla for over 5 years. It's a great car, well designed and nice to drive.

But what i have experienced of late with the Toyota servicing, is upsetting and an eye-opener. I'm not here to argue with you people reading this, just reporting the facts...

regards ~

catwoman

[jay13]

your still taring us all with the same brush!!!

in other words if you have a problem then any toyota dealerships fine as long as its not the one near catwoman in powys :P

please remember this is Don07s original post about his car not working properly, its now spammed into the fact that you hate your local toyota dealership, if you feel this negative towards them then maybe a new post by yourself is needed?

and then maybe introduce yourself in the new members section???

[catwoman]

Jay13 said, "your still taring us all with the same brush"!!!

I take it that 'us' means you are a Toyota Service technician?

Jay13 said, "in other words if you have a problem then any toyota dealerships fine as long as its not the one near catwoman in powys" :P

Why do you say i have a problem?... it isn't me who's ripping people off by charging loads of money for work that was not needed or carried out, and passing the car back to the customer in a faulty condition!

Sounds to me like the problem is the Toyota Service People!

Jay13 said, "please remember this is Don07s original post about his car not working properly, its now spammed into the fact that you hate your local toyota dealership, if you feel this negative towards them then maybe a new post by yourself is needed"?

Don07 posted it 18 April and has not posted back since... i'm very worried he took you advice and went to his local Toyota service dealership, his car has probably broke down by now because of faulty toyota workmanship, and the poor lad has been stranded miles away in some remote place for the past 3 months!

He should have gone to LSUK... if only he had known : (

Jay13 said, "and then maybe introduce yourself in the new members section"???

Look, the cat-flat was open so i let myself in... The 'Engine Warning Light' phrase came up on Google and put me right into this dog house, after reading people advise about going to your local toyota service dealership i offered my experience (learned the hard way) and offered an alternative place to go that offers much better value for money and far far far far less hassle.

Just call it a free public service on my part, no need for Thanks!

catwoman

[jay13]

catwoman said:

I take it that 'us' means you are a Toyota Service technician

*yes i am a toyota tech and try to help out people with problems with their cars on the forum? is that a crime then??

catwoman said:

Why do you say i have a problem?... it isn't me who's ripping people off by charging loads of money for work that was not needed or carried out, and passing the car back to the customer in a faulty condition!

Sounds to me like the problem is the Toyota Service People

*YOU are the one thats constantly bitchin about YOUR local toyota dealership, so yes you have the problem of talking to you toyota centre to sort the situation out?!

catwoman said:

Don07 posted it 18 April and has not posted back since... i'm very worried he took you advice and went to his local Toyota service dealership, his car has probably broke down by now because of faulty toyota workmanship, and the poor lad has been stranded miles away in some remote place for the past 3 months!

He should have gone to LSUK... if only he had known : (

*YOUR STILL SLATING EVERY TOYOTA TECH IN THE COUNTRY LOL

catwoman said:

Look, the cat-flat was open so i let myself in... The 'Engine Warning Light' phrase came up on Google and put me right into this dog house, after reading people advise about going to your local toyota service dealership i offered my experience (learned the hard way) and offered an alternative place to go that offers much better value for money and far far far far less hassle.

*maybe the catflap was open as you put it, but surely its common curtiuosy to the forum to take the time to post up in the newbie section?

damn all the toyota dealershps are going to go under now that you've told them all to go to lucas

p.s you don't happen to work for lucas do you fpmsl

[catwoman]

:fishyface:

Okay, i can see this is going nowhere because you're being far too selective and assuming about what you read in my real life experience report at the Toyota Service Garage because you work in one yourself.

Lets try this from a different angle...

If you really are a Toyota service techy and you want to help with problems here, please feel free to do this for me...

Next time you go into work, find out what your service procedure would be if you got a car in with the only symptom of 'Engine Warning Light' that's been coming on intermittently.

The fault code on diagnostics is DTC 14 and the vehicle is a year 2000 corolla 1.9D with 1WZ engine

The 1WZ engine is a derivative from the common rail diesel of Peugeot…

((( sudden clap of thunder and flash of lightning )))

…which was used mainly in Peugeots and Citrons but the Corolla had them from about 1999-2001.

It was something to do with new emission regulations that required Toyota to source a engine from elsewhere because they didn’t have a diesel engine that met those regulations at that moment in time.

Experienced mechanics will recognise the engine as a Peugeot soon after opening the bonnet…. Although they didn’t at my local Toyota garage… not for a little while anyhow.

The 1.9D is a bit of a slug, power measured in ponies rather than horses, but a good reliable diesel capable of going around the block a couple of times.

However, I would dearly love to know how your Toyota Service dealership would deal with this problem.

The findings may surprise you!

… and I thank you in advance for your trouble!

catwoman

[orcrist_1986]

I've just read through this and couldn't help but pmsl

I have to agree with jay13 on this one.

When I first had my car, as it had been standing on the forecourt, the brakes were not brilliant.

I rang them up, explained what the situation was. they booked me an appointment.

However, in the meantime they brakes got worse, so rang them up and they got me in on an emergency appointment the next day.

i took the car in, they had it fixed about 2 hours later, and dropped the charges for the brake pads, that i was originally told i would need to pay, as I'd only had the car a week.

Excellent service, with fast, hard working staff.

Pinkstones Toyota in Stoke

It just sounds like you have stumbled on a bad dealership, like any manufacturer has. And as they are actually franchises of Toyota only a percentage of the money goes back to Mr T.

[catwoman]

I've just read through this and couldn't help but pmsl

It just sounds like you have stumbled on a bad dealership, like any manufacturer has. And as they are actually franchises of Toyota only a percentage of the money goes back to Mr T.

Hello orcrist_1986

I’m sorry to hear you have an incontinence problem, don't have the problem myself but then again i don’t do schadenfreude.

However, I am very glad you’ve got your brakes sorted out okay, having good brakes must help no end with your bladder control.

Your last couple of sentences are more interesting, but from what i've heard though the grape vine, there are a lot of bad dealerships/franchises around, and not only with Toyota.

regards~

catwoman

[orcrist_1986]

you really are a people person are you?

why come onto a forum, then sl*g everyone off?

I'm pretty sure with that attitude its not going to get you very far, and no wonder the dealer thought he'd rip you off

[catwoman]

pmsl

I've been far more respectful to people on this group than you have to me, and your claim that i slag everyone off is only your strange assumption...

If you can't take it back, you shouldn’t dish it out in the first place!

[orcrist_1986]

i didn't slag anyone off

i left a valid opinion (if these are still allowed these days) and i get this:

Hello orcrist_1986

I’m sorry to hear you have an incontinence problem, don't have the problem myself but then again i don’t do schadenfreude.

However, I am very glad you’ve got your brakes sorted out okay, having good brakes must help no end with your bladder control.

Unless i am mistaken there was no need for that response, was there?

PC brigade strikes again

[catwoman]

orcrist,

what do you mean when you say pmsl ?

go figure.

[orcrist_1986]

obviously this is going no where

ps, i laughed at no one in particular, unless the thread is a person