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I managed to pull off yesterday & go for a little while with the handbrake fully on (not a great idea - I know). I thought if it was on - you would not be able to budge & would stall the car if you tried to move. Is that not the case?

I'm now thinking the handbrake may be faulty & I'm also wondering if I may have done any damage to the car or brakes.

:cheers:


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I have heard a few people and the forum say this, and I did it once, I dont think its faulty, I found my just hadnt clicked down properly and was showing as still on but, I guess it depends how far you went and wether it was still on full lock or not as to whether there is any damage.

SJx

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I have heard a few people and the forum say this, and I did it once, I dont think its faulty, I found my just hadnt clicked down properly and was showing as still on but, I guess it depends how far you went and wether it was still on full lock or not as to whether there is any damage.

SJx

I too, rather depressingly, have managed to do this a couple of times in the past. Its been to garage for a service since then and came out ok, so you should be fine...just wouldn't recommend doing it regularly :)

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its not a faulty handbrake at all,

I have made the same error of driving with the handbrake fully on. It wasn't toyotas that i was driving either. On the 2 occasions i have done it, the cars still pulled away with no hesitation and drove normally. Obviously this is not what you might expect from a fully applied handbrake, buts its not faulty.

Posted
its not a faulty handbrake at all,

I have made the same error of driving with the handbrake fully on. It wasn't toyotas that i was driving either. On the 2 occasions i have done it, the cars still pulled away with no hesitation and drove normally. Obviously this is not what you might expect from a fully applied handbrake, buts its not faulty.

However can you say that a handbrake (Service Brake) that allows you to pull away whilst it is applied is NOT faulty?

It is certainly not adjusted correctly if it allows you to pull away whilst fully applied.

Maybe, "Sales King" you should have a word with your service manager before making such bold sweeping statements :rolleyes:


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its not a faulty handbrake at all,

I have made the same error of driving with the handbrake fully on. It wasn't toyotas that i was driving either. On the 2 occasions i have done it, the cars still pulled away with no hesitation and drove normally. Obviously this is not what you might expect from a fully applied handbrake, buts its not faulty.

However can you say that a handbrake (Service Brake) that allows you to pull away whilst it is applied is NOT faulty?

It is certainly not adjusted correctly if it allows you to pull away whilst fully applied.

Maybe, "Sales King" you should have a word with your service manager before making such bold sweeping statements :rolleyes:

I pulled away in my Aygo once with the handbrake on but it did not feel right as expected and rather sluggish.

Having said that, when I first passed my test, I hired a Corsa and drove down the A20 with it on at 60 mph but when I got home I smelt burning.

I don't make that mistake any more!!

Posted
its not a faulty handbrake at all,

I have made the same error of driving with the handbrake fully on. It wasn't toyotas that i was driving either. On the 2 occasions i have done it, the cars still pulled away with no hesitation and drove normally. Obviously this is not what you might expect from a fully applied handbrake, buts its not faulty.

However can you say that a handbrake (Service Brake) that allows you to pull away whilst it is applied is NOT faulty?

It is certainly not adjusted correctly if it allows you to pull away whilst fully applied.

Maybe, "Sales King" you should have a word with your service manager before making such bold sweeping statements :rolleyes:

It is possible to drive with the handbrake on.

In the same way that when i was blocked in at a car park once three of us managed to push a parked car out of the way :lol:

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It is possible to drive with the handbrake on.

In the same way that when i was blocked in at a car park once three of us managed to push a parked car out of the way :lol:

Can you still do that with a car with the MMT gearbox? Would it damage it? I'm showing my ignorance perhaps!

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Can you still do that with a car with the MMT gearbox?

Yes you can and it will not cause any damage, as the MMT is in effect a manual box

that's controlled by actuators instead of a driver through a couple of bowden-cables...

If you park the car it defaults to Neutral AFAIK and thus no resistance is met from the gearbox...

Posted
its not a faulty handbrake at all,

I have made the same error of driving with the handbrake fully on. It wasn't toyotas that i was driving either. On the 2 occasions i have done it, the cars still pulled away with no hesitation and drove normally. Obviously this is not what you might expect from a fully applied handbrake, buts its not faulty.

However can you say that a handbrake (Service Brake) that allows you to pull away whilst it is applied is NOT faulty?

It is certainly not adjusted correctly if it allows you to pull away whilst fully applied.

Maybe, "Sales King" you should have a word with your service manager before making such bold sweeping statements :rolleyes:

I think you can gather from a few other comments made since yours, IT IS NOT A FAULT that the car can drive with the handbrake on. When you have the power of the engine pulling the car, it would still be possible to pull the car with the handbrake on. Obviously it would drive better with the handbrake off, but IT IS STILL DOESNT MAKE IT FAULTY.

Posted
Can you still do that with a car with the MMT gearbox?

Yes you can and it will not cause any damage, as the MMT is in effect a manual box

that's controlled by actuators instead of a driver through a couple of bowden-cables...

If you park the car it defaults to Neutral AFAIK and thus no resistance is met from the gearbox...

If you leave the MMT Aygo in "E" or "R"

Then turn off the ignition, it will remain in gear and stay connected

via the clutch to the engine.

Just like a Manual car.

I park mine like this when on the level (in my driveway)

and leave the handbrake off .

(No cable stretch and no sticking on rear brakes.)

I also leave it in gear on hills.

I'm an old skool sort of bloke though.....

Ian.

Posted
If you leave the MMT Aygo in "E" or "R"

Then turn off the ignition, it will remain in gear and stay connected

via the clutch to the engine.

Just like a Manual car.

I park mine like this when on the level (in my driveway)

and leave the handbrake off .

(No cable stretch and no sticking on rear brakes.)

I also leave it in gear on hills.

I'm an old skool sort of bloke though.....

Ian.

Thanks for that. I was wondering about this in case I needed to be towed or something.

I guess it does make sense as it is a manual with a bolt-on bit, hence clutchless manual.

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