Engine Oil For T180

[GreyRacer]

Has anyone needed to top up their engine oil between services on the T180 and if so what oil did you use?

[GreyRacer]

Has anyone needed to top up their engine oil between services on the T180 and if so what oil did you use?

Phoned Mr. T and he recommends Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A1

Diesels certainly use more oil than petrol. I did not expect to need a top up between services. Just passed 18K.

[cabcurtains]

Has anyone needed to top up their engine oil between services on the T180 and if so what oil did you use?

Phoned Mr. T and he recommends Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 A1

Diesels certainly use more oil than petrol. I did not expect to need a top up between services. Just passed 18K.

All modern diesels should be checked frequently as the oil is so thin (to keep the emissions down) it can quickly burn off without the driver noticing (i.e you won't see any smoke), having worked for Honda UK we lost a lot of engines due to oil starvation. Honda say to check the oil level at every refill of Diesel, the owners manual also states 1 litre yes 1 litre of oil used per every 600 miles is "normal".

The Honda problem was most customers previously had petrols and never had to lift the bonnet between services, i can imagine this would be the same for most petrol Toyota owners.

[Jukkeli]

Excuse my english, been driving round a clock and feeling little blurry...

In my case, 1st interval with factory oil went ok (0-15000 km) then they filled her up with Mobil 0W-40 and I checked level in 22000 km, it was in min and I added about 0,5 l. After that, about 27000, I added another half liter and in 30000's service level was low again.

Then we filled her with Mobil 5W-40, lower specs oil and consumption sunk clearly, at next service 45000 oil level was about half way. The negative effect was a slightly risen fuel consumption from 6,2 liters/100 km to 6,8.

Then was time to try thinner oil again, next 15000 she drunk only 1/3 from dipstick . That trend continued and just before 75000 service, oil level was barely under max. Fuel consumption was rising and she draw nearly 7 liters.

At 75, normal oil change but mechanic noticed that rear wheels didn't spin free. We checked brakes and left inner pad was jammed, both right hand pads were also in suspicious condition. In Finland they're spreading a plenty of salt onto roads per winter and rear pads were jammed because of tight fitting and rust. We grinded old pads slightly smaller and fitted new next week, with little grinding too. I'm surely the first Auris owner in Finland with new pads, no one had asked them before. At 82 as yesterdays, no oil consumption visible and after pad loosening and renewal, fuel consumption has sunked to 6,1-6,4 in BCD. Average speed varies between 80-96 km/h. Lowest ever consumption was 5,8 l/100 km last summer, average speed 77. There's no point to use sixth gear under 105 km/h, the engine feels lazy and consumption is slightly bigger than in 5th. Maybe regeneration works harder when you run engine too low rpm. The BCD works very well in my case, I usually fill her up in same station and in a long run there's hardly no difference.

In cold days I prefer Eberspächer, but it draws fuel only marginally relative my driving and I prefer driving without coat, only T-shirt and it's quite funny to watch colleagues reactions in -20 when they've scraped small peepholes in frozen windows and are stirring me and my light clothing through my clear screens, they've all winter equpment they can find on and heater in fast forward-position. Mine is usually in +21, that's confortable in winter. With Eberspächer it takes about 30 mins under -15 to get car warm and windows clear, when it's colder 45 mins. Finnish pre-heater models are equipped with big Battery, fuel heater draws lots of current. I forget to mention before that in wintertime we have special winter fuel, it allows cold starting until -32 (normal fuel seizes in -15) but there's a drawback with little power loss, turbodiesels often take that loss back with bigger consumption but D-CAT didn't, it was a bit flegmatic during winter. After few fillings with summer fuel she was back and running, maybe more willing to attack than in last summer. Keep on driving with your car's, they're changing better all the time. D-CAT is big bad chock to finnish trafficants, usually Auris' class cars are equipped with 1,4 or 1,6 liters anemic petrol engines and that mighty diesel gives enough kick to leave many "better" cars in the dust. Surprise :-)

[Parts-King]

All modern diesels should be checked frequently

That should be ALL modern engines, regardless of fuel type. Multi valves and the complexities of modern engines means that it is not unusual to use some oil between servicing, and in any case it is a drivers responsibility to check oil/water/air from time to time. We have all become very lazy when it comes to checking our cars, we EXPECT them to go on forever without checking anything. A good quality 5w 30 semi synthetic oil is perfect for your car

Kingo

[GregP]

All modern diesels should be checked frequently

That should be ALL modern engines, regardless of fuel type. Multi valves and the complexities of modern engines means that it is not unusual to use some oil between servicing, and in any case it is a drivers responsibility to check oil/water/air from time to time. We have all become very lazy when it comes to checking our cars, we EXPECT them to go on forever without checking anything. A good quality 5w 30 semi synthetic oil is perfect for your car

Kingo

As far as I remember some Corollas with VVT-i had oil consumption "issue". They were sometimes using more that 1l/ 600 miles

[DigiMan]

All modern diesels should be checked frequently

That should be ALL modern engines, regardless of fuel type. Multi valves and the complexities of modern engines means that it is not unusual to use some oil between servicing, and in any case it is a drivers responsibility to check oil/water/air from time to time. We have all become very lazy when it comes to checking our cars, we EXPECT them to go on forever without checking anything. A good quality 5w 30 semi synthetic oil is perfect for your car

Kingo

As far as I remember some Corollas with VVT-i had oil consumption "issue". They were sometimes using more that 1l/ 600 miles

Mine has lost less than 0,5l / the last 15000km's no problems is my opinion, and I did drive the car like i have stolen it from it was new.

The first 10000km's it needed almost one liter.

[Cablechap]

Just topped the oil up recently with a 1 litre after 6000, well within the dip gauge so very good. Used Wilkinsons 5w 30 semi-synthetic oil - £7 for 2 litres and meets all the specifications according to the manual. Toyota have apparently developed the 2.2 D-Cat to use lower spec engine oil (not too be confused with quality) so no fancy high spec fully-synthetic stuff required.

My old Corolla T-Sport VVTLI never needed any oil top ups after 4 years average miles, so I can understand people forgetting to check when changing to another Toyota or Honda, etc.

[GregP]

Used Wilkinsons 5w 30 semi-synthetic oil - £7 for 2 litres and meets all the specifications according to the manual.

OK it is 5W30 but FULLY SYNTHETIC -that is a big difference for new engines so I am not convinced about "lower spec oils". The protection level is definitely not the same.

[Cablechap]

Used Wilkinsons 5w 30 semi-synthetic oil - £7 for 2 litres and meets all the specifications according to the manual.

OK it is 5W30 but FULLY SYNTHETIC -that is a big difference for new engines so I am not convinced about "lower spec oils". The protection level is definitely not the same.

Take another look - it's definately semi-synthetic, and all the required specifications are listed on the back of the bottle......read the manual. I suspect the Wilkinsons brand to not be too dissimilar to Halfords own brand at around £22 for 5 litres.

http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0257980

I spent several hours reading up on the 2.2 D-CAT engine and automotive oils written by people in the industry before fore-going the really expensive ones. There are 5w 30 semi-synthetic diesel grades with the right spec but they are hard to come by.

Spoke to my local dealer as well and they use their own 'Toyota' 5w 30 semi-synthetic oil.

[GregP]

I am bit surprised then that Toyota dealer fills new engine with semi- synthetic oil. This is cheaper alternative for older engines (where full synthetic may cause leaks). I would not leave semi oil in engine for 10k miles what is the drain period for Toyota. Some car manufacturers are very strict about it (especially if car is Euro IV).

[spwolfx]

I am bit surprised then that Toyota dealer fills new engine with semi- synthetic oil. This is cheaper alternative for older engines (where full synthetic may cause leaks). I would not leave semi oil in engine for 10k miles what is the drain period for Toyota. Some car manufacturers are very strict about it (especially if car is Euro IV).

actually, Toyota specifically mandates dealers to use new 5W-30 semi-synthetic oil. Apperantly it is better for the enviroment and fuel consumption. They replaced all the manuals for 2007 to specify this. Completly safe and actually reccomended by Toyota.

[DigiMan]

I am bit surprised then that Toyota dealer fills new engine with semi- synthetic oil. This is cheaper alternative for older engines (where full synthetic may cause leaks). I would not leave semi oil in engine for 10k miles what is the drain period for Toyota. Some car manufacturers are very strict about it (especially if car is Euro IV).

actually, Toyota specifically mandates dealers to use new 5W-30 semi-synthetic oil. Apperantly it is better for the enviroment and fuel consumption. They replaced all the manuals for 2007 to specify this. Completly safe and actually reccomended by Toyota.

NOT in Sweden, they absolutely do not recommend any semisynthetic oils.

The dealer specify that they use Castrol EDGE SAE 5W-30 at service

[GregP]

actually, Toyota specifically mandates dealers to use new 5W-30 semi-synthetic oil. Apperantly it is better for the enviroment and fuel consumption. They replaced all the manuals for 2007 to specify this. Completly safe and actually reccomended by Toyota.

OK...but how is semi better for environment if one of the advantages using full synthetic oil is reduced friction, lower fuel consumption and extended draining period...:?:

[Cablechap]

actually, Toyota specifically mandates dealers to use new 5W-30 semi-synthetic oil. Apperantly it is better for the enviroment and fuel consumption. They replaced all the manuals for 2007 to specify this. Completly safe and actually reccomended by Toyota.

OK...but how is semi better for environment if one of the advantages using full synthetic oil is reduced friction, lower fuel consumption and extended draining period...:?:

Maybe right, however you must use the oil specified (not brand though) by Toyota for your car or you could risk voiding your warranty.

[Gustaw]

Has anyone needed to top up their engine oil between services on the T180 and if so what oil did you use?

Let me re-post the same question ... a quick feedback will be appreciated ...

I want to pop in to the local Halfords and get some engine oil to top up my T180.

Owners manual suggest 5W30 (no issue here) and then some enigmatic specs like B1 etc ...

Well, I have already checked at Halfords and I could not locate any oil with B1 spec - most puzzling.

I checked some info on the web and it confused me even more ...

B1 is supposed to be for "economy driving" or whatever ... while B3/4 for "performance".

Castrol website suggests Magnatec 5W-30 A1 (already mentioned in this thread).

What about Halford's own brand ?

Any other suggestions ?

Thanks and Regards

[T Sport 1978]

I buy my Castrol 5w/30 Fully Synth 4 litres at a go for £19 in Costco...

I do need to top up and i check my oil every 2 weeks.

Between my last 2 services (30k-40k miles) i reckon i topped up around 1 litre of the gold stuff.

The Castrol i use is graded A1.

According to the manual B1 is fine, so as long as Halfords grades it thus, it will be fine.

Anything else is down to your personal believes. I think my Magnatec is a fine oil.

[GregP]

Halfords oil is usually made by Comma. It used to be (and maybe still is) Duchams or Mazola.