Gti 16 V T Sport

[butterman]

Hello all,

I was out and about yesterday and a J reg GTI 16 was in front of me. Looked in good nick and was obviously well looked after and unmodified (well cosmetically anyway).

Just curious to find out what the official stats for these cars were so I googled it this morning and came up up with the below.

BHP = 124

0-60 = 8.4s

MPH = 196 :o

196mph........surely that can't be right ????

Can anyone correct me, what are the official stats for this car? The 0-60 time would suggest it is as fast as the modern T Sport but with only 124 BHP ???

Well confused

[cabcurtains]

Hello all,

I was out and about yesterday and a J reg GTI 16 was in front of me. Looked in good nick and was obviously well looked after and unmodified (well cosmetically anyway).

Just curious to find out what the official stats for these cars were so I googled it this morning and came up up with the below.

BHP = 124

0-60 = 8.4s

MPH = 196 :o

196mph........surely that can't be right ????

Can anyone correct me, what are the official stats for this car? The 0-60 time would suggest it is as fast as the modern T Sport but with only 124 BHP ???

Well confused

CTS is more like 7.0, the J plate Rolla GTI probably only weighs 1000Kgs i would guess, that would explain things. Top speed more like 122 -125 MPH.

No doubt someone will know for sure

[MarcTS]

I think you will be looking at 196KPH as that converts to 122MPH which sounds much more likely.

[Gordy75]

Hello mate, i bet all gti16 owners wished they could do 196mph, the cars are very good but unfortunatly not that good!

for a tvis version 87-89 ure looking at 122bhp and 129bhp for the non tvis version 90-92

0-60mph is around the 8.3 for the tvis version but unsure about the non tvis model if anything prob a tiny bit quicker!

i have a 1990 non tvis version and i have had it at 135mph and is commonly known for been able to do 140mph with a bit of space! so i dont know

where 196 came from the obvious one being that is the kph figure but that undercuts its true speed by 20mph when converted over to mph! hope this helps!

[dawesy]

i might be able to top speed of mine with an 8500 rpm limit is about 200mph (180 as it stands now)

the stock one is booked at about 120-125 but as gordy75 says they can manage about 140.

kerb weight is around 1180 KG IIRC (that's defo what the MOT brake test weight is)

quick cars and becoming classics TBH and getting rarer. corrosion is a big killer

[Momin]

The Hi-torque's have 128 BHP. You can get 140MPH out of them, my cousin did that in his old one.

It'l give a T-sport a good race but i think the t-sport mite just have the edge but at the end of the day its a 20 year old car competing against a new one.

[ae92 lover]

It'l give a T-sport a good race but i think the t-sport mite just have the edge but at the end of the day its a 20 year old car competing against a new one.

well said

[butterman]

i might be able to top speed of mine with an 8500 rpm limit is about 200mph (180 as it stands now)

the stock one is booked at about 120-125 but as gordy75 says they can manage about 140.

kerb weight is around 1180 KG IIRC (that's defo what the MOT brake test weight is)

quick cars and becoming classics TBH and getting rarer. corrosion is a big killer

Cool, is yours a twin cam model ? How does that work then? Is it like Lift in the VVTLi .?

[jay13]

been up to 140mph in mine which was on a private test track ;) but at those speeds the speedo is useless anyway

[dawesy]

was a twin cam, 16V but now has a 2.0 turbo lump (3S-GTE) pushing 470bhp through the front wheels

[borodaz]

was a twin cam, 16V but now has a 2.0 turbo lump (3S-GTE) pushing 470bhp through the front wheels

lol can the front wheels put that power down ? very impresive

[4afte]

does the celica box go that high dawsey? just picked up a 185 box the other weekend so i think i'll be heading 4wd early next year. you're on a motec ECU aren't you?

[dawesy]

yep im using the CS gearbox (it has very nice ratios in)

0-60 in around 4 secs and 1/4mile in 12.1 so yeah it isnt bad at getting the power down.

good luck wth the 4WD conversion. i have just about finished the research into the parts needed and the mods that need to be made. want to keep the 4x100 wheel stud configuration so rear hubs will be interesting

[4afte]

try using the carib rear hubs? chassis code AE115 it's a 4wd estate version of mine but the important bit is it's still got the fully independant rear suspension of the e11 series as well as the correct 4 stud hub for attaching drive shafts to. a CS gearbox? as in 185 CS are they in a MR2 gearbox casing?

[dawesy]

casings are the same but you need to put the CS ring gear on the MR2 diff and use a the blanking plate where the transfer goes.

will have a look at that although i hate to think how much Mr T want for a the full setup. not seen any about either

[4afte]

i'm guessing not cheap, find out how much it cost you thou, as i'd be intersted. it's going to be about £200 for the 4wd fuel tank for my car from Mr T

[dawesy]

im cutting the centre floor out and making two compartments in the floor with a transmission tunnel in the middle. fuel cell one side and pump, swirl pot and filter in the other. looking at MK3 MR2 rear hubs ATM as they are 4 stud and multilink setup.

[4afte]

that's a good point, hadn't considered them. maybe because i was hoping to use the existing arms from my current independent rear setup. whats the power you're looking for with 4wd?

[dawesy]

hopefully about 550bhp, rear arms will need mods (shortening)but as long as you are a competent welder that isn't a problem.

making my own rear subframe as well. you can use the std GT4 rear one and make the mounting points on the chassis but it weighs a bit!

would like to keep it under 1200KG with the 4WD setup.

prop needs shortening too but that is a specialist job as it needs to be balanced.

[4afte]

i was confident that i could handle the rear arms and subrame i did wonder about the prop shaft. who do you recommend for the prop shaft and what are you planning to use as the basis? if i may pry so?

[RedNeck 92 Gti-16]

Up to late 1989, Tvis Gti: 122-124 Bhp, later High-torque small-port: 127-129 :D

I reckon the later model is the one to go for, the engine's power delivery is raised and improved. Its also got much better brakes, a lighter stronger clutch and an improved ECU. Amongst other refinements, adds up to an evolution. Much underated the subtle differences between the two.

As for 140, i bought a J-reg Gti-16 that hadn't been serviced in its last few years as spares or repairs, and promptly took it on a 2000 mile road trip round Scotland and back, it could have touched 140, hard to say!! With all the joggling about, but 135-138 defo :D I just didnt want to bounce the rev limiter in 5th.. I reckon 140 on the limiter!!

[RedNeck 92 Gti-16]

Off topic

3S GTE 4WD Corolla GT4 :D

YEAH!!!!! DO IT!!!!!! Dawsey or 4afte... DO IT NOW!!!!! :D :D

[dawesy]

soon :P