T180 Run Flats

[Bernie H]

Spoke to my local dealer yesterday to book my Rav in for a service, and due to the saga that I have endured(enjoyed??), he happened to mention that there are no tyres currently in the UK. There will be a BIG delivery due by the end of this month.

Suffice to say, DON'T get a puncture, or worse, before the end of the month.

Comments and/or refute of the story welcome.

Bern

[bothwell_buyer]

Spoke to my local dealer yesterday to book my Rav in for a service, and due to the saga that I have endured(enjoyed??), he happened to mention that there are no tyres currently in the UK. There will be a BIG delivery due by the end of this month.

Suffice to say, DON'T get a puncture, or worse, before the end of the month.

Comments and/or refute of the story welcome.

Bern

tends to confirm what my tyre dealer said a couple of months ago - that run flats go out of stock for periods. At that time it was BMWs affected.

[Hoovie]

Well, I am sure there are plenty of T180s and SR180s hanging around with no buyers they can pilfer them from ;)

[shcm]

tends to confirm what my tyre dealer said a couple of months ago - that run flats go out of stock for periods. At that time it was BMWs affected.

I can add more anecdotal evidence to that of the learned Scottish 3 door gentleman.

Got a puncture last Friday night. First one in about 90K+ miles driving. Luckily spotted it outside on the drive and it was easily fixable first thing Saturday morning. Of course, I'm not on RFTs.

Anyway, I couldn't help bringing up the subject of RFTs with the fitters while it was being fixed. Same old story - they are a **** to fit, they don't have the proper kit and tyres are not always available.

They told me about a Merc owner that came in who alledgedly had to wait three months for a new RFT. Don't know if that was the support ring type or not. Admittedly they did offer to try to kit him out with a set of non-RFT alternatives which is what they said they would have had done themselves in that position.

Can't believe anybody would put up with a 3 month wait. Maybe it's a bit of a yarn, but have to take what they said at face value.

[t180 mike]

tends to confirm what my tyre dealer said a couple of months ago - that run flats go out of stock for periods. At that time it was BMWs affected.

I can add more anecdotal evidence to that of the learned Scottish 3 door gentleman.

Got a puncture last Friday night. First one in about 90K+ miles driving. Luckily spotted it outside on the drive and it was easily fixable first thing Saturday morning. Of course, I'm not on RFTs.

Anyway, I couldn't help bringing up the subject of RFTs with the fitters while it was being fixed. Same old story - they are a **** to fit, they don't have the proper kit and tyres are not always available.

They told me about a Merc owner that came in who alledgedly had to wait three months for a new RFT. Don't know if that was the support ring type or not. Admittedly they did offer to try to kit him out with a set of non-RFT alternatives which is what they said they would have had done themselves in that position.

Can't believe anybody would put up with a 3 month wait. Maybe it's a bit of a yarn, but have to take what they said at face value.

Whatever are toyota thinking of not only are they extremley expensive you cannot even get them either WELL DONE TOYOTA !!!!!!

[Fujisan]

They told me about a Merc owner that came in who alledgedly had to wait three months for a new RFT. Don't know if that was the support ring type or not. Admittedly they did offer to try to kit him out with a set of non-RFT alternatives which is what they said they would have had done themselves in that position.

Can't believe anybody would put up with a 3 month wait. Maybe it's a bit of a yarn, but have to take what they said at face value.

Having had a good look around the Mercedes website (I'm bored and on nights ), I can find no evidence of any present Mercedes model using Run Flat tyres.

The vast majority (including most of the big engined AMG range) use a space saver spare wheels. Those AMG models and the SLR McLaren that do not have room for a large enough space saver, use tyre sealent instead.

[Hoovie]

There is an interesting article in this weeks Autoexpress about spacesaver tyres - they generally get a pretty bad review, admittedly partly to do with the way some people abuse them.

Also a brief comparison with a sealent - ContiSeal - which sounds really good.

And because it is a coating on the inside, rather then a sealent you spray in, a TPMS internal sensor could work with it.

Although you are still not protected against sidewall damage, I reckon this sounds as good a solution as I have seen without an actual spare wheel - especially as they say this coating in no way prevents permanent repairs to the type

[sywy]

Hoovie, I heard that no tyre sealant will prevent permenant repairs, if clean out properly. And if you think about it, it makes sense, as it's just a liquid. However, I think that the tyre fitters do not want to spend time cleaning it out properly, so do not want to touch a tyre with it in. Don't know how much of that is true. It's just what I've read on my travels on the 'net

[Plutus]

Having had a good look around the Mercedes website (I'm bored and on nights ), I can find no evidence of any present Mercedes model using Run Flat tyres..

That's correct. They don't/never have offered run flats.

I think that the Toyota run flat system was designed and is being run by a politician.

Usually they make *****-ups like this and then ignore all sensible pleadings.

[shcm]

Having had a good look around the Mercedes website (I'm bored and on nights ), I can find no evidence of any present Mercedes model using Run Flat tyres.

Fair enough Fuj, that "evidence" of mine is worth diddleysquat then.

Any idea what the "MOE" is here then:

http://www4.mercedes-benz.com/e/cars/cls/b...50E.html#N27B9C

says "run flat characteristics"

Probably not UK spec.

Maybe the chap was German and couldn't get home for 3 months More likely it was just a load of ****

[Fujisan]

Having had a good look around the Mercedes website (I'm bored and on nights ), I can find no evidence of any present Mercedes model using Run Flat tyres.

Fair enough Fuj, that "evidence" of mine is worth diddleysquat then.

Any idea what the "MOE" is here then:

http://www4.mercedes-benz.com/e/cars/cls/b...50E.html#N27B9C

says "run flat characteristics"

Probably not UK spec.

Maybe the chap was German and couldn't get home for 3 months More likely it was just a load of ****

Interesting

Not UK spec.

This is the page for the UK spec CLS's standard equip : Here.

This states "Space-saver spare wheel (steel with wheel bolts)" across the range, including the CLS 63 AMG

By the way sorry I couldn't word the first post better, at that time of the morning it's hard enough just thinking straight

[Fujisan]

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[chatman]

I Quote "No spare tyre means you have more room in your trunk" Hmmm so having to wait all that time or longer to get a replacement (in the case of the Toyota T/SR 180) means I can fit more luggage in my boot... ;) ;) ;) ;)

I prefer the the knowledge I could continue my journey having changed the tyre for the spare I had....

[Fujisan]

I Quote "No spare tyre means you have more room in your trunk" Hmmm so having to wait all that time or longer to get a replacement (in the case of the Toyota T/SR 180) means I can fit more luggage in my boot... ;) ;) ;) ;)

I prefer the the knowledge I could continue my journey having changed the tyre for the spare I had....

I state no preference one way or the other

......just lighting the blue touch paper and standing back