Creaking Noise When In Reverse

[wastedagen]

Does anyone else get a creaking noise when reversing slowly after the car has cooled down completely. This only happens when trying to get the car moving. Once moving there is no noise.

I parked on a slight incline so I could roll the car backwards when cold to see if i can hear the noise but nothing. It seems it only happens when using the clutch. Hence maybe it's a sign the clutch is on its way out. But its only done 21000. Needless to say I have only done 3000 of them. I don't have a clue how the previous driver drove.

After the engine/gearbox is warm there is no noise.

Any thoughts

regards............

[balli hi]

Does anyone else get a creaking noise when reversing slowly after the car has cooled down completely. This only happens when trying to get the car moving. Once moving there is no noise.

I parked on a slight incline so I could roll the car backwards when cold to see if i can hear the noise but nothing. It seems it only happens when using the clutch. Hence maybe it's a sign the clutch is on its way out. But its only done 21000. Needless to say I have only done 3000 of them. I don't have a clue how the previous driver drove.

After the engine/gearbox is warm there is no noise.

Any thoughts

regards............

The clutch and pressure plate on my car was changed after just 3000 miles .... i complained to my dealers that there was a clanking noise when i let the clutch back up after gear change , they took the car in and connected it up to a I.T2 , ( intelligent tester ) in short , a computer .

The feedback recieved told them that the clutch pressure plate was faulty , .. so the clutch & pressure plate were changed together.

I can only suggest that you take the car back to your dealers and have it checked out .

[moonstone mart]

Does anyone else get a creaking noise when reversing slowly after the car has cooled down completely. This only happens when trying to get the car moving. Once moving there is no noise.

I parked on a slight incline so I could roll the car backwards when cold to see if i can hear the noise but nothing. It seems it only happens when using the clutch. Hence maybe it's a sign the clutch is on its way out. But its only done 21000. Needless to say I have only done 3000 of them. I don't have a clue how the previous driver drove.

After the engine/gearbox is warm there is no noise.

Any thoughts

regards............

The clutch and pressure plate on my car was changed after just 3000 miles .... i complained to my dealers that there was a clanking noise when i let the clutch back up after gear change , they took the car in and connected it up to a I.T2 , ( intelligent tester ) in short , a computer .

The feedback recieved told them that the clutch pressure plate was faulty , .. so the clutch & pressure plate were changed together.

I can only suggest that you take the car back to your dealers and have it checked out .

Using IT2 to check clutch plate.... i dont think so - especially on a manual car. :S

Mart.

[balli hi]

Does anyone else get a creaking noise when reversing slowly after the car has cooled down completely. This only happens when trying to get the car moving. Once moving there is no noise.

I parked on a slight incline so I could roll the car backwards when cold to see if i can hear the noise but nothing. It seems it only happens when using the clutch. Hence maybe it's a sign the clutch is on its way out. But its only done 21000. Needless to say I have only done 3000 of them. I don't have a clue how the previous driver drove.

After the engine/gearbox is warm there is no noise.

Any thoughts

regards............

The clutch and pressure plate on my car was changed after just 3000 miles .... i complained to my dealers that there was a clanking noise when i let the clutch back up after gear change , they took the car in and connected it up to a I.T2 , ( intelligent tester ) in short , a computer .

The feedback recieved told them that the clutch pressure plate was faulty , .. so the clutch & pressure plate were changed together.

I can only suggest that you take the car back to your dealers and have it checked out .

Using IT2 to check clutch plate.... i dont think so - especially on a manual car. :S

Mart.

Hello Mart

Are you saying that they bull sh--ted me , only at the time i did wonder wether or not a computer could give feedback on the clutch.

When i was told that the clutch pressure plate was faulty, i asked how they could tell, they then explained what i have said in my post above ,

Mart , can you tell us exactly what an It2 is and what it is usually used for, i have contacted Toyota Gb regarding my ongoing brake squeal issue , and i feel that i will be adding this to my complaint regarding my dealers conduct , basically they have taken me for an idiot, and i am not best pleased, its not the way to treat customers , especially first time toyota owners, such as myself, the more i have dealings with LOOKERS ROMFORD, the more it leaves a bitter taste.

I am gratefull for this forum though, and the fact that we have a toyota mechanic in yourself, on the forum.

[moonstone mart]

If you car is a manual gearbox i cannot see how using the IT2 (intelligent tester 2) will tell them any problems with the clutch as it is a standard hydraulic setup with no switches etc apart from the one on the clutch pedal (engine will not start without pedal pressed down)

If it were an MMT then you can get info from it regarding clutch actuators etc.

At least you got a new clutch for free :)

If it were the reception staff that told you that they used IT2 they may have read the job report wrong (difficult to understand what us techs write sometimes with abbreviations/short write ups etc etc)

Here is a link to what the IT2 is

http://www.imsc-group.com/toyota-intelligent-tester-ii.html

As you can see its just like a portable computer that we use to check for fault codes/data lists/active tests etc etc - not cheap at all!

The brake squeal is sometimes difficult to get rid of, Toyota are still working on a fix and do bring out different parts/measures every so often to try and stop it. It may take some time though to get everyones car sorted. I know it is annoying but it doesnt hinder the braking performance any :).

Mart.

[balli hi]

If you car is a manual gearbox i cannot see how using the IT2 (intelligent tester 2) will tell them any problems with the clutch as it is a standard hydraulic setup with no switches etc apart from the one on the clutch pedal (engine will not start without pedal pressed down)

If it were an MMT then you can get info from it regarding clutch actuators etc.

At least you got a new clutch for free :)

If it were the reception staff that told you that they used IT2 they may have read the job report wrong (difficult to understand what us techs write sometimes with abbreviations/short write ups etc etc)

Here is a link to what the IT2 is

http://www.imsc-group.com/toyota-intelligent-tester-ii.html

As you can see its just like a portable computer that we use to check for fault codes/data lists/active tests etc etc - not cheap at all!

The brake squeal is sometimes difficult to get rid of, Toyota are still working on a fix and do bring out different parts/measures every so often to try and stop it. It may take some time though to get everyones car sorted. I know it is annoying but it doesnt hinder the braking performance any :).

Mart.

Thanks for that mart

My car is a manual gearbox, and it was the assistant service manager who told me how they arived at their diagnosis , i stressed at the time that my car was almost new, and that i was quite worried that they were going to change the clutch after only 3000 miles , and i only asked them to investigate the clank noise and apart from the noise the clutch performed quite well as far as i was concerned, he reassured me that the work was neccessary , he told me that they connected the car up to the IT2 , and that the car has censors all over it sending feedback to the IT2 , the clutch censor he said, indicated that the pressure plate was faulty, so i had no reason not to believe him , although i did have my doubts that the clutch could give such feedback , i accepted mentally that technology had probably moved on.

THe funny thing is the clank noise was still present after the clutch had been changed, and still is present, i took the opportunity to ask their master tech on another occasion ,what was causing the clank noise when i let the clutch back up , and i showed him when it happened, i can't remember his explanation in detail but the upshot was that it was perfectly normal, and nothing wrong, so it would seem they have changed my clutch for the sake of it, or maybe a bit of profiteering , as it is quite a costly job, and i assume that Toyota would have been billed for the work.

As for the brake squeal, the service manager is telling me that i have to put up with it, because they have exhausted all avenues regarding remedial work, and that if i don't like brake squeal, i should not have bought the Auris , because it is a known fact that it is part of the Auris's character, he also added that the squeal was further exacerbated by my braking style, the service / aftersales manager is in my mind a complete as-hole and needs to be replaced with someone who knows how to treat people who buy Lookers cars as customers, and not someone who is there to annoy him , the fact is they have had 9 Months to sort my brakes out , and i'm still having to put up with the noise.... not on really :censor:

[auris2008]

My car is a manual gearbox, and it was the assistant service manager who told me how they arived at their diagnosis , i stressed at the time that my car was almost new, and that i was quite worried that they were going to change the clutch after only 3000 miles , and i only asked them to investigate the clank noise and apart from the noise the clutch performed quite well as far as i was concerned, he reassured me that the work was neccessary , he told me that they connected the car up to the IT2 , and that the car has censors all over it sending feedback to the IT2 , the clutch censor he said, indicated that the pressure plate was faulty, so i had no reason not to believe him , although i did have my doubts that the clutch could give such feedback , i accepted mentally that technology had probably moved on.

THe funny thing is the clank noise was still present after the clutch had been changed, and still is present, i took the opportunity to ask their master tech on another occasion ,what was causing the clank noise when i let the clutch back up , and i showed him when it happened, i can't remember his explanation in detail but the upshot was that it was perfectly normal, and nothing wrong, so it would seem they have changed my clutch for the sake of it, or maybe a bit of profiteering , as it is quite a costly job, and i assume that Toyota would have been billed for the work.

As for the brake squeal, the service manager is telling me that i have to put up with it, because they have exhausted all avenues regarding remedial work, and that if i don't like brake squeal, i should not have bought the Auris , because it is a known fact that it is part of the Auris's character, he also added that the squeal was further exacerbated by my braking style, the service / aftersales manager is in my mind a complete as-hole and needs to be replaced with someone who knows how to treat people who buy Lookers cars as customers, and not someone who is there to annoy him , the fact is they have had 9 Months to sort my brakes out , and i'm still having to put up with the noise.... not on really :censor:

'balli hi'

Can you get it [black on white ] on a paper " and that if i don't like brake squeal, i should not have bought the Auris , because it is a known fact that it is part of the Auris's character,...... "

[balli hi]

My car is a manual gearbox, and it was the assistant service manager who told me how they arived at their diagnosis , i stressed at the time that my car was almost new, and that i was quite worried that they were going to change the clutch after only 3000 miles , and i only asked them to investigate the clank noise and apart from the noise the clutch performed quite well as far as i was concerned, he reassured me that the work was neccessary , he told me that they connected the car up to the IT2 , and that the car has censors all over it sending feedback to the IT2 , the clutch censor he said, indicated that the pressure plate was faulty, so i had no reason not to believe him , although i did have my doubts that the clutch could give such feedback , i accepted mentally that technology had probably moved on.

THe funny thing is the clank noise was still present after the clutch had been changed, and still is present, i took the opportunity to ask their master tech on another occasion ,what was causing the clank noise when i let the clutch back up , and i showed him when it happened, i can't remember his explanation in detail but the upshot was that it was perfectly normal, and nothing wrong, so it would seem they have changed my clutch for the sake of it, or maybe a bit of profiteering , as it is quite a costly job, and i assume that Toyota would have been billed for the work.

As for the brake squeal, the service manager is telling me that i have to put up with it, because they have exhausted all avenues regarding remedial work, and that if i don't like brake squeal, i should not have bought the Auris , because it is a known fact that it is part of the Auris's character, he also added that the squeal was further exacerbated by my braking style, the service / aftersales manager is in my mind a complete as-hole and needs to be replaced with someone who knows how to treat people who buy Lookers cars as customers, and not someone who is there to annoy him , the fact is they have had 9 Months to sort my brakes out , and i'm still having to put up with the noise.... not on really :censor:

'balli hi'

Can you get it [black on white ] on a paper " and that if i don't like brake squeal, i should not have bought the Auris , because it is a known fact that it is part of the Auris's character,...... "

Hi

An excellent point, i think i'll ask the service manager that, next time i speak to him, but i think in all honesty i've got more chance of going to the moon, than getting them to put that down on paper.

[MattD]

Hi, I have exactly the same problem. Did you manage to find the cause of this noise?

[TomdeGuerre]

Hi, I have exactly the same problem. Did you manage to find the cause of this noise?

If you're talking about the OP's complaint about a creaking noise when reversing back slowly, have you considered whether it's the handbrake making the noise?

On your model the handbrake operates on brake shoes inside a drum which is incorporated into the rear disc. The shoes have a leading and a trailing edge (see the attached picture where the leading edges of the shoes are highlighted by red arrows). These leading edges are meant to assist the braking force when pulling on but also incidentally help to release the brakes when initially pulling forward after the brakes have been applied and the vehicle left static for a while. Otherwise there is a tendency for "stiction" of the shoes against the drum. So when you reverse the car after it has been parked with the handbrake on you might get a creaking noise until the shoes release.

Note: this picture is not of the Auris brake, it's a just to show leading and trailing edges on brake shoes.

[Devon Aygo]

There are a few bulletins from Toyota regarding brake squeal:

Front:

CP-0066T-1208-EN - 1.4d/1.4p/1.6p with 15" wheels only Squealing when applied - fit modified fr pads 04465-02210 & remove caliper piston cap fixed Oct 2008.

CP-0028T-0909-EN - 2.0d/2.2d with 16"/17" wheels only squealing under light load or coming to a halt - fit modified caliper carriers and front pads - fixed March 2009

Rear:

CP-0014T-0809-EN - All models - Squealing when driving or braking - fit modified rear pads depending on original number

04466-02080 > 04466-02181

04466-02090 > 04466-02191

Fixed March 2009.

[Devon Aygo]

Hi, I have exactly the same problem. Did you manage to find the cause of this noise?

If you're talking about the OP's complaint about a creaking noise when reversing back slowly, have you considered whether it's the handbrake making the noise?

On your model the handbrake operates on brake shoes inside a drum which is incorporated into the rear disc. The shoes have a leading and a trailing edge (see the attached picture where the leading edges of the shoes are highlighted by red arrows). These leading edges are meant to assist the braking force when pulling on but also incidentally help to release the brakes when initially pulling forward after the brakes have been applied and the vehicle left static for a while. Otherwise there is a tendency for "stiction" of the shoes against the drum. So when you reverse the car after it has been parked with the handbrake on you might get a creaking noise until the shoes release.

Note: this picture is not of the Auris brake, it's a just to show leading and trailing edges on brake shoes.

Rear Brake Shoe Adjust.png

Since Auris replaced Corolla in 2007 no Auris features parking brake shoes, the hand/parking brake cables act on a lever on the rear calipers pushing the pads onto the discs.

[TomdeGuerre]

Hi, I have exactly the same problem. Did you manage to find the cause of this noise?

If you're talking about the OP's complaint about a creaking noise when reversing back slowly, have you considered whether it's the handbrake making the noise?

On your model the handbrake operates on brake shoes inside a drum which is incorporated into the rear disc.

Since Auris replaced Corolla in 2007 no Auris features parking brake shoes, the hand/parking brake cables act on a lever on the rear calipers pushing the pads onto the discs.

My 2009 Auris had the hand brake incorporated into the disc but, even so, it still had the drum section in the disc. When I mentioned this to my Toyota dealer they told me that the earlier versions of the Auris still had the drum hand brake so I accepted this as the truth. Obviously you can’t believe everything your Toyota dealer tells you.