Whole Mm-t -gearsystem Changed

[Speed_Chaser]

I told on "Steering column" -topic about some of my problems experienced due to

the MM-T -gearsystem:

I was experiencing some lags when changing gears, even in manual mode the

changes were taking too much time.

Also when the car was cold and I was slowing down by slightly pressing the brake pedal

my car changed to lower gear so that you could really feel the change, it wasn't a comfortable

feeling at all.

Sometimes there was also the problem that my car didn't change the gear at all to the higher

one, even if I accelerated slightly (not full throttle, not even half). The revs werere about 5000

and the car kept going using the same gear.

Situation was better at one time, after my MM-T software was updatet. But it started to get worse

and worse, and until now it had became worse than it ever was, I found also a new problem which

I had never experienced before.

I called my dealer and got the service time for thursday. Later my dealer called me and told that

I'll get my car back on the next day, as they're waiting for some parts and going to change the whole

gearbox. So I got my car back on friday (today), it was washed and they had put some new rubbers on all the

wipers with no charge (I did ask them to change the rubbers when I gave them the car, but they did

it for free). And the main thing was also solved out!

Now the gears are changing very smoothly and fast, always on time and the car seems much more responsible.

They changed all the MM-T -gearsystem parts and also the computer which was controlling the gearsystem.

It is still changing to the 1st gear at aroung 18km/h, but now when the MM-T is working correctly, I cannot say that

it is bad thing, because I don't experience any lag as before, when I was pressing the throttle but the car was standing

and thinking, and then the whole car "jumped" and my head went back as the car started accelerating very fast on high

revs after the lag.

Now the 1st gear is just one gear among the others, and I think it's even a good thing that it changes to 1st

so early, because the car becomes more responsible which can be very important if you have to accelerate

after the corner or when another car is waiting for you to go. It is good thing now, because it is not uncomfortable

thing anymore. The whole car seems much better now, I see it in a whole different way. Do really enjoy the ride,

and I must to confess, MM-T isn't so bad thing if it's working correctly. I thought I'd never like it, but seems like

I was wrong.

Also the service at my Toyota dealer was better than ever (usually I'm not happy at all). Good car, good service,

I'm very happy customer today. Toyota did really impress me after I allready stopped wishing for anything like that!

Best regards, happy Toyota customer Alex

[auris2008]

Hi Alex,

Sorry to hear you have so serious problem with the MMT - Gear that Toyota makes all the effort to convince us, before buying the Auris and after,

that this is the reliability revolutionary gear-transmition and we Shell adopted it " with full confident and guarantee " for many years ahead using our Auris".

To tell you the truth - Two year before , before I ordered my Auris , I was more sure and confident about it then to day - after I saw a lot of broblems rising while using the MMT Gear in the Auris.

You are lucky having these problems during the " Guarantee Period " so Toyota Dealer "changed the whole MM-T gearsystem and updated! " !

What happend if these problems will be in my Auris after 3 years - over the guarantee period.

How much it will cost me to "changed the whole MM-T gearsystem and updated! " .

I am very sure now that Toyota must extend the " Guarantee Period " over the 3 years to 7 years ( like the new Cid did in Europe and also in Israel ) to convince us once more that they are" standing behind" theirs reliability revolutionary gear-transmition= the MMT Gear.

Here in Israel there is a lot off disappointment from the Mmt-gear in the new Corolla ( 4 doors, 1600 made in Japan), therefore after many battles, the local dealers will starts, during 2009, to import this new corolla with the regular Automatic Gear .

By this dramatic decision and move of ours dealer. the price of the second-hand Corolla-mmt and the Auris-mmt will drop dramaticly very below the common price of Toyota-cars at all.

I glad to see it working O.K. now but I am very disappointed that Toyota didnt upgrade the Mmt's program to better performance

"Changing from 2th to 1th in the correct speed "- meanly lower than 18Km/h to 10-12 Km/h similar to others cars- Manuals and Automatic/Semi.

This fault changing . most of the time occur when you in a crossover=no lights= and you are in speed nearly 20Km/h , and sudenly with a unpleasant strick, the gear changing to 1th with a unpleasant noise.

Everytime its happend - its drive me crazy. :censor:

[Speed_Chaser]

Hi Alex,

Sorry to hear you have so serious problem with the MMT - Gear that Toyota makes all the effort to convince us, before buying the Auris and after,

that this is the reliability revolutionary gear-transmition and we shell adopted it " with full confident and guarantee " for many years ahead using our Auris".

To tell you the truth - Two year before , before I ordered my Auris , I was more sure and confident about it then to day - after I saw a lot of broblems rising while using the MMT Gear in the Auris.

You are lucky having these problems during the " Guarantee Period " so Toyota Dealer "changed the whole MM-T gearsystem and updated! " !

What happend if these problems will be in my Auris after 3 years - over the guarantee period.

How much it will cost me to "changed the whole MM-T gearsystem and updated! " .

I am very sure now that Toyota must extend the " Guarantee Period " over the 3 years to 7 years ( like the new Cid did in Europe and also in Israel ) to convince us once more that they are" standing behind" theirs reliability revolutionary gear-transmition= the MMT Gear.

Here in Israel there is a lot off disappointment from the Mmt-gear in the new Corolla ( 4 doors, 1600 made in Japan), therefore after many battles, the local dealers will starts, during 2009, to import this new corolla with the regular Automatic Gear .

By this dramatic decision and move of ours dealer. the price of the second-hand Corolla-mmt and the Auris-mmt will drop dramaticly very below the common price of Toyota-cars at all.

I glad to see it working O.K. now but I am very disappointed that Toyota didnt upgrade the Mmt's program to better performance

"Changing from 2th to 1th in the correct speed "- meanly lower than 18Km/h to 10-12 Km/h similar to others cars- Manuals and Automatic/Semi.

This fault changing . most of the time occur when you in a crossover=no lights= and you are in speed nearly 20Km/h , and sudenly with a unpleasant strick, the gear changing to 1th with a unpleasant noise.

Everytime its happend - its drive me crazy. :censor:

I understand you very well, had the same feeling. But now when the gearbox is working properly it is not unpleasant anymore. It feels like in all the ohter cars, without any surprising or unpleasant strick. I hope you will find some solvation to this problem and will have a chance to enjoy your car for 100%!

Best regards, Alex

[auris2008]

Hi Alex,

Sorry to hear you have so serious problem with the MMT - Gear that Toyota makes all the effort to convince us, before buying the Auris and after,

that this is the reliability revolutionary gear-transmition and we shell adopted it " with full confident and guarantee " for many years ahead using our Auris".

To tell you the truth - Two year before , before I ordered my Auris , I was more sure and confident about it then to day - after I saw a lot of broblems rising while using the MMT Gear in the Auris.

You are lucky having these problems during the " Guarantee Period " so Toyota Dealer "changed the whole MM-T gearsystem and updated! " !

What happend if these problems will be in my Auris after 3 years - over the guarantee period.

How much it will cost me to "changed the whole MM-T gearsystem and updated! " .

I am very sure now that Toyota must extend the " Guarantee Period " over the 3 years to 7 years ( like the new Cid did in Europe and also in Israel ) to convince us once more that they are" standing behind" theirs reliability revolutionary gear-transmition= the MMT Gear.

Here in Israel there is a lot off disappointment from the Mmt-gear in the new Corolla ( 4 doors, 1600 made in Japan), therefore after many battles, the local dealers will starts, during 2009, to import this new corolla with the regular Automatic Gear .

By this dramatic decision and move of ours dealer. the price of the second-hand Corolla-mmt and the Auris-mmt will drop dramaticly very below the common price of Toyota-cars at all.

I glad to see it working O.K. now but I am very disappointed that Toyota didnt upgrade the Mmt's program to better performance

"Changing from 2th to 1th in the correct speed "- meanly lower than 18Km/h to 10-12 Km/h similar to others cars- Manuals and Automatic/Semi.

This fault changing . most of the time occur when you in a crossover=no lights= and you are in speed nearly 20Km/h , and sudenly with a unpleasant strick, the gear changing to 1th with a unpleasant noise.

Everytime its happend - its drive me crazy. :censor:

I understand you very well, had the same feeling. But now when the gearbox is working properly it is not unpleasant anymore. It feels like in all the ohter cars, without any surprising or unpleasant strick. I hope you will find some solvation to this problem and will have a chance to enjoy your car for 100%!

Best regards, Alex

Alex,

Most of the time I love the MMT and the gearbox is working properly , but the fault changing from 2th to 1th is not only my problem = it it ours problem.

The only solution is = When Toyota will realise that this is her fault and she must upgrade the software to the point that the change down to the 1th will b at 10-12 Km/h and not more.

But Toyota dosn't HEAR her car's owners = AND THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM.

Where is the Toyota afficial executive In this forum - to see and hear us and to give us service ?

I think Toyota must learn from the bad situation of GM that was declared this week " We dont please/hear ours customers" (or something like this)

[Speed_Chaser]

Alex,

Most of the time I love the MMT and the gearbox is working properly , but the fault changing from 2th to 1th is not only my problem = it it ours problem.

The only solution is = When Toyota will realise that this is her fault and she must upgrade the software to the point that the change down to the 1th will b at 10-12 Km/h and not more.

But Toyota dosn't HEAR her car's owners = AND THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM.

Where is the Toyota afficial executive In this forum - to see and hear us and to give us service ?

I think Toyota must learn from the bad situation of GM that was declared this week " We dont please/hear ours customers" (or something like this)

I was talking with my Toyota dealer about this problem, and he told me that nobody has been dissapointed with the thing and even told him that the gearbox is

great. So maybe it's just you who don't like this "early to 1st gear changing" -thing? I think that Toyota has only one software, and they don't have any chance to develop a different one for every driver who doesn't like the original one. All the MM-T Auris' are coming from the factory with this setting, and I think that Toyota should have noticed if it's not a good one. But as it's still coming out with this setting and nothing has changed Toyota wants it to be like that and to be part of their MM-T cars. It's an option, which Toyota keeps as a good one. So do the most of it's customers too!

Best regards, Alex

[auris2008]

Alex,

Most of the time I love the MMT and the gearbox is working properly , but the fault changing from 2th to 1th is not only my problem = it it ours problem.

The only solution is = When Toyota will realise that this is her fault and she must upgrade the software to the point that the change down to the 1th will b at 10-12 Km/h and not more.

But Toyota dosn't HEAR her car's owners = AND THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM.

Where is the Toyota afficial executive In this forum - to see and hear us and to give us service ?

I think Toyota must learn from the bad situation of GM that was declared this week " We dont please/hear ours customers" (or something like this)

I was talking with my Toyota dealer about this problem, and he told me that nobody has been dissapointed with the thing and even told him that the gearbox is

great. So maybe it's just you who don't like this "early to 1st gear changing" -thing? I think that Toyota has only one software, and they don't have any chance to develop a different one for every driver who doesn't like the original one. All the MM-T Auris' are coming from the factory with this setting, and I think that Toyota should have noticed if it's not a good one. But as it's still coming out with this setting and nothing has changed Toyota wants it to be like that and to be part of their MM-T cars. It's an option, which Toyota keeps as a good one. So do the most of it's customers too!

Best regards, Alex

I am very surprise, you say "So maybe it's just you who don't like this "early to 1st gear changing".

You like it ?

Run a search here and you will find more owners dissapointed with the thing .

You dealer's reply very odd and untruth - Most of the MMT owners say the gear is worse then Manual and automatic gears.

[Speed_Chaser]

Alex,

Most of the time I love the MMT and the gearbox is working properly , but the fault changing from 2th to 1th is not only my problem = it it ours problem.

The only solution is = When Toyota will realise that this is her fault and she must upgrade the software to the point that the change down to the 1th will b at 10-12 Km/h and not more.

But Toyota dosn't HEAR her car's owners = AND THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM.

Where is the Toyota afficial executive In this forum - to see and hear us and to give us service ?

I think Toyota must learn from the bad situation of GM that was declared this week " We dont please/hear ours customers" (or something like this)

I was talking with my Toyota dealer about this problem, and he told me that nobody has been dissapointed with the thing and even told him that the gearbox is

great. So maybe it's just you who don't like this "early to 1st gear changing" -thing? I think that Toyota has only one software, and they don't have any chance to develop a different one for every driver who doesn't like the original one. All the MM-T Auris' are coming from the factory with this setting, and I think that Toyota should have noticed if it's not a good one. But as it's still coming out with this setting and nothing has changed Toyota wants it to be like that and to be part of their MM-T cars. It's an option, which Toyota keeps as a good one. So do the most of it's customers too!

Best regards, Alex

I am very surprise, you say "So maybe it's just you who don't like this "early to 1st gear changing".

You like it ?

Run a search here and you will find more owners dissapointed with the thing .

You dealer's reply very odd and untruth - Most of the MMT owners say the gear is worse then Manual and automatic gears.

Yes, I don't deny that maybe they don't like the MM-T. But I haven't heard them saying that it changes too early to the 1st gear, neither has my dealer.

For me the thing isn't a problem at the moment. Because it has no negative effect in my car anymore, only the positive one: the accelerations are much faster because of using the lower gear.

Best regards, Alex