Aygo Lost Gears (second) 2nd, (fourth) 4th And Reverse

[iangray100]

Had some fun recently as I lost 3 gears from the Aygo gearbox last week on the way to the station.

Lost ( Second) 2nd, (Fourth) 4th and Reverse and the gear lever was very sloppy . Never tried 5th though.

Quick look under the bonnet quickly revelied ( right hand side ) that one of the gear lever cables ( as the gear lever uses a two cable system to move the gearbox selectors - push pull concept ) had pulled completely out the the gearbox housing and snapped the coupling clean off at the mount .

See pictures of before and after

Dropped the car off to Toyota's and then quickly ordered a replacement and fitted (under warranty) a new cable system. Apparently they haven't see this before on an Aygo ...umm yer right and there were no factory field update on this topic either.

They had seen it on a few other models though but wouldn't say which ones.

Odd thing was they had the cable in stock very quickly ...to me this indicates Toyota UK had seen this before..as a garage network normally only keeps in quick stock common used parts ...any one else seen this happen as I only found one indication on this topic on the forum, mixed in some other notes ?

[T.F.S.B.I.G.W.S.]

No - never even heard of this problem but - thanks for the photos as now we'll all know what to look out for

[Jan van de Wouw]

So you lost 3rd, 4th and reverse? Not 5th?

I would have expected you to loose 1st, 2nd, 5th and reverse,

since the gearlever is biased to the middle pair, being 3rd and 4th...

Strange, but good to hear you got it sorted so fast...

[iangray100]

Whoops ...your actually half correct. I lost 2nd, 4th and Reverse , 5th I never tried .

I've changed the post, but I can't edit the "topic bar " to replace the typo ...

thanks

[moonstone mart]

Yes, have heard of this and repaired a few too.

I must point out that that dealership may never had had an Aygo with this problem - its not exactly mega common.

Also we can usually get ANY part in stock the same day if ordered before 12. There is now a SDS (same day service) operating for Toyota dealerships.

I have had very random parts delivered for cars using this that i never thought would be in stock. :)

Mart.

[Phoenix999]

My daughter's Aygo has had the cable adjusted under warranty so I hope that they do not snap in any way :o

However I reckon this system of gear change connection is total cr@p.... I sincerely hope that Toyota never go through the process of working with Peugeot/Citroen again :shutit:

[Red Yaris 54]

Whoops ...your actually half correct. I lost 2nd, 4th and Reverse , 5th I never tried .

I've changed the post, but I can't edit the "topic bar " to replace the typo ...

thanks

Amended for you

[moonstone mart]

My daughter's Aygo has had the cable adjusted under warranty so I hope that they do not snap in any way :o

However I reckon this system of gear change connection is total cr@p.... I sincerely hope that Toyota never go through the process of working with Peugeot/Citroen again :!Removed!:

Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)

There isnt really much adjustment you can do with the selector cables apart from inside the car so this wouldnt effect the fixings.

Clutch cable isnt fixed in the same way as the selector cables.

Mart.

[Phoenix999]

....Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)....

Oh dear.... I am SO sorry for getting it wrong.... SO sorry for posting in this thread

Good grief man the Aygo is not my car so it is not likely I would know exactly what flippin cable was adjusted

Still I reckon the Toyota mechanic would surely know his job and HE said it WAS the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES that were slightly slack.... I don't know how the cables were adjusted.... I simply know they WERE adjusted ;)

[moonstone mart]

....Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)....

Oh dear.... I am SO sorry for getting it wrong.... SO sorry for posting in this thread

Good grief man the Aygo is not my car so it is not likely I would know exactly what flippin cable was adjusted

Still I reckon the Toyota mechanic would surely know his job and HE said it WAS the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES that were slightly slack.... I don't know how the cables were adjusted.... I simply know they WERE adjusted ;)

Dont be so mardy . I put the words in capital to be helpful.

Mart.

[Red Yaris 54]

....Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)....

Oh dear.... I am SO sorry for getting it wrong.... SO sorry for posting in this thread

Good grief man the Aygo is not my car so it is not likely I would know exactly what flippin cable was adjusted

Still I reckon the Toyota mechanic would surely know his job and HE said it WAS the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES that were slightly slack.... I don't know how the cables were adjusted.... I simply know they WERE adjusted ;)

Dont be so a-rsey . I put the words in capital to be helpful.

Mart.

Comments like that are not very helpful............please refrain from getting personal on the forums.

Your technical input to the forums is appreciated............comments like those above ARE NOT :)

[moonstone mart]

....Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)....

Oh dear.... I am SO sorry for getting it wrong.... SO sorry for posting in this thread

Good grief man the Aygo is not my car so it is not likely I would know exactly what flippin cable was adjusted

Still I reckon the Toyota mechanic would surely know his job and HE said it WAS the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES that were slightly slack.... I don't know how the cables were adjusted.... I simply know they WERE adjusted ;)

Dont be so a-rsey . I put the words in capital to be helpful.

Mart.

Comments like that are not very helpful............please refrain from getting personal on the forums.

Your technical input to the forums is appreciated............comments like those above ARE NOT :)

Sorry, have changed it but still annoys me when trying to help/point things out to people you get replies like that.

Mart.

[Jan van de Wouw]

Gear selection by cable isn't that uncommon.

I actually like it better than the push/pull/twist rod-system my Escort and 100NX had, as the cable-system transmits way

less engine vibration to the inside of the car and doesn't move the gear lever as the engine moves under torque...

My DeLorean was even worse: it had a rod-system for the front-to-back motion and a cable for left-to-right.

And in the rod there was an extra lever on a notorios pivot-bolt, to compensate for the gearbox

actually being in the car backwards... Terrible system, but the car was big fun :D

Cable-tension for the geubiklector is set inside the car, underneath the center console.

You can just spot them in this picture, located underneath the "carpet bridge" in front of the lever:

[Unklian]

Agreed.

Cable selection is the way to go.

The old rods / joints system was very prone to wear.

The Fiesta / Escort Mk3 onwards were fine when brand new

but became worse with age.

Stripping / curing / replacing and adjusting was a pain.

Cable replacement is much easier and works better.

Another benefit is that (I know its not the case in the Aygo) you can

place the gear lever anywhere in the cabin. Honda seem to lead the way with this,

placing the new Civic gear lever just next to the steering wheel.

"Dropped the car off to Toyota's and then quickly ordered a replacement and fitted (under warranty) a new cable system. "

Problem solved then.

Come on everybody, Big smiles all round !

Ian.

[Phoenix999]

....Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)....

Oh dear.... I am SO sorry for getting it wrong.... SO sorry for posting in this thread

Good grief man the Aygo is not my car so it is not likely I would know exactly what flippin cable was adjusted

Still I reckon the Toyota mechanic would surely know his job and HE said it WAS the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES that were slightly slack.... I don't know how the cables were adjusted.... I simply know they WERE adjusted ;)

Dont be so mardy . I put the words in capital to be helpful.

Mart.

Mart.... I too put the words in capitals to be helpful.... for some reason you did not get the original point so I had to put it across for a second time.... remember that you tried to put me down and when I replied in a similar vein you did not like it. You were not trying to be helpful you were simply trying to put a point across.... which was your point and my point was dismissed

Now as I pointed out.... my daughter's car was indeed worked on by the Toyota mechanic because he said so, I can say no more than that

[Jan van de Wouw]

It's almost Christmas, let's all be friends :D

[moonstone mart]

....Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)....

Oh dear.... I am SO sorry for getting it wrong.... SO sorry for posting in this thread

Good grief man the Aygo is not my car so it is not likely I would know exactly what flippin cable was adjusted

Still I reckon the Toyota mechanic would surely know his job and HE said it WAS the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES that were slightly slack.... I don't know how the cables were adjusted.... I simply know they WERE adjusted ;)

Dont be so mardy . I put the words in capital to be helpful.

Mart.

Mart.... I too put the words in capitals to be helpful.... for some reason you did not get the original point so I had to put it across for a second time.... remember that you tried to put me down and when I replied in a similar vein you did not like it. You were not trying to be helpful you were simply trying to put a point across.... which was your point and my point was dismissed

Now as I pointed out.... my daughter's car was indeed worked on by the Toyota mechanic because he said so, I can say no more than that

I didnt try to put you down, if i did it would have been worded very differently. Im sorry if you thought that. I always use capitals to point out the important words in a post.

Gear selector cables are very good and alot better than other types of system (as pointed out above), all Toyotas with a transverse mounted engine use selector cables unless its an auto or MMT.

Mart.

[Phoenix999]

....Your daughter would have had the CLUTCH cable adjusted. The problem in this post is the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES. :)....

Oh dear.... I am SO sorry for getting it wrong.... SO sorry for posting in this thread

Good grief man the Aygo is not my car so it is not likely I would know exactly what flippin cable was adjusted

Still I reckon the Toyota mechanic would surely know his job and HE said it WAS the GEAR SELECTOR CABLES that were slightly slack.... I don't know how the cables were adjusted.... I simply know they WERE adjusted ;)

Dont be so mardy . I put the words in capital to be helpful.

Mart.

Mart.... I too put the words in capitals to be helpful.... for some reason you did not get the original point so I had to put it across for a second time.... remember that you tried to put me down and when I replied in a similar vein you did not like it. You were not trying to be helpful you were simply trying to put a point across.... which was your point and my point was dismissed

Now as I pointed out.... my daughter's car was indeed worked on by the Toyota mechanic because he said so, I can say no more than that

I didnt try to put you down, if i did it would have been worded very differently. Im sorry if you thought that. I always use capitals to point out the important words in a post.

Gear selector cables are very good and alot better than other types of system (as pointed out above), all Toyotas with a transverse mounted engine use selector cables unless its an auto or MMT.

Mart.

Fair enough Mart.... thank you for the clarification

[PD24]

how would i adjusted my 2nd gear selector? it seems too loose, just sort of falls in.... so does 3rd gear.. there is no firmness in the gears..... any ideas on what i should do?