Clocked Toyota

[Fawbs]

Cheers for all of the advice everyone, I really appreciate it :)

I've now spoken to the guy (on Monday), and trading standards are on the case and poised for action too ;) At present I'm being very civil about it in the hope we can sort it out amicably, and I haven't told him I've spoken to TS. I'm more inclined now to keep the car if he'll give me a chunk of my cash back, so that I've paid what I think the car is truly worth based on it's true milage. TS have confirmed that the car has blatantly been mis-sold and if I choose to reject it then I'm due my money back. I'm really impressed with the support TS give actually, since they have been calling me to check on details and find out what action I want to take.

When I spoek to the seller he basically came across as ignorant to his obligations as a dealer. He said he didn't know the mileage was wrong and it was sold as seen, to which my response has been that the car was specifically advertised with a milage which was false. Whether he really doesn't know what his responsibilities are and what my rights are, or if he just hopes I don't know, is uncertain. But the call ended with him saying he will go back to the person he got the car from and ask some questions. As irrelevent to me that is, I agreed. So I'm gonna give him til the end of the week and then chase him up again I reckon.

Like I said, I'm more inclined to keep the car now, for the right price, since it does seem to run fine and it's in great condition, and although a full refund would end the matter I'd then be left with no car for however long. That would be a big problem with work, let alone getting around for anything else. TS also told me that if they get involved in claiming a refund then I need to be careful how I use the car, since I'm rejecting it. I could probably get away with going to work in it as 'reasonable use', but anyhting above that would be questionable, and we don't know how long it could take. So, I CAN go down that route if needed, but I don't really want to. In terms of getting some of the cash back, they've told me they don't think they can get involved since it then becomes a civil issue - just him and me agreeing or not agreeing on the value of the car. I'd like £400 back since (with cash and my old car) he's had £1075 out of me. The value is hard to determine though. I've looked around a fair bit and found nothing the same age with as many miles as mine, but I've found some close which vary between around £500 up to £1400. Mine is in really good shape cosmetically, but of course it has no history and I haven't had it checked over. I guess I'm still undecided, but we'll see what he says next...

You should advertise for trading standards ha. Sounds like it will turn out in your favour no matter what, it's just annoying waiting around to get your moolah back.

[Parts-King]

Mikey

Just my opinion but..............Reject the car and buy another, with a traceable history, mileage etc. If and when you come to sell this car in the future, you wont be able to give an exact mileage and that will put prospective customers off. £400 off is not a lot of money, the trader will be happy he is out of it and (probably) still making a profit

I think that's what I would do anyway

Kingo

[vishalo]

alright mate is ur car an import mate and are the dials in miles or kilometer's mate cause if they are in km when u do the mot they put it as miles

[sach920]

Most imports are bound to be clocked........The way i see it.. if someone can get away with it to make an extra few grand then why wouldnt they? Just my opinion, hopefully that is not the case, but ive always had these dodgy feelings about imported cars as its hard to track the mileage and all the fuss between KM and MPH speedo changes etc..

The only way to determine a genuine car is to actually go to Japan or where ever and source a car youself .