Hopefully Ive Found The Right Gt-4

[mad1969]

hi there ive ot been member long on here but been looking for a gt-4 rev 5 for afew months now on ebay/pistonheads on here and afew other sites was going to look at one i found on auto treader at the wekend but after the owner sent me some more pics of the car and looking at them he said he hit a pot hole and it needed new drop links new shock and wheel ?? pulled alittle bit to the left but not bad thought ok hes been honest ??/

here no wings pushed back into the offside door and you can see were the door as court the b.piler not good there then

anyway found this 1 the other day

going to pick it up on friday

hers the add

Description (revised) Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item.

Item Specifics - Cars & Other Vehicles

Manufacturer:

Toyota

Colour:

Grey

Model:

Celica

Engine Size:

--

Type:

Coupe

Power:

--

Mileage:

128000

Seats:

4

Doors:

3

MOT Expiry:

Aug 2009

Reg. Date:

--

Drive Side:

Right-hand drive

Road Tax:

Jan 2009

Previous Owners:

5

Exterior:

Alloy Wheels, Rear Spoiler

Transmission:

Manual

V5 Document:

Present

Fuel:

Petrol

Manufacturer's Warranty:

--

Service History:

--

In-Car Audio:

AM/FM Stereo, CD Multichanger, CD Player

Safety Features:

4-Wheel Drive, Alarm, Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS), Immobiliser, Rear seat belts

Interior/Comfort Options:

Air Conditioning, Auxiliary heating, Leather Seats, Power-assisted Steering (PAS), Power Windows, Sunroof, Tilt Steering Wheel

Additional Item Specifics

Condition:

Used

DUE TO CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES AND VERY RELUCTANTLY - FOR SALE 1991 TOYOTA CELICA GT4

IN GREY. THIS IS A UK SPEC, WIDE BODIED MODEL. I HAVE OWNED THIS CAR FOR OVER 3 YEARS AND FOR ALL THIS TIME IT HAS BEEN A JOY AND PLEASURE TO DRIVE. VERY RELIABLE, STARTS FIRST TIME (BETTERY REPLACED IN LAST YEAR).

ENGINE: 2 litre 16v turbo, 1.6mm HKS steel head gasket, ARP head studs, Recently replaced turbo - stage 2 hybrid, Full K&N induction kit, Irridium spark plugs.

Aussie decat downpipe, Full SS Mongoose exhaust.

Brakes: Front and rear: Black Diamond 10 groove discs, Pagid fast road pads.

Suspension: KYB uprated gas shocks front and rear, AVO springs front and rear, Lowered by 35mm (done less than 6 months ago).

Other features: 17 inch OZ alloys, 215/40/17 Yokohama tyres, Replaced power stearing cooling pipes, Replaced gear oil cooler and pipes from cooler to gear box, Pillar mounted gages (boost, oil pressure, volt),

FULL GREY LEATHER INTERIOR.

Pioneer head unit with 6 disc multi-changer.

All receipts for work done over the years included and MOT history. No expense has been spared in maintaining this car and have upgraded original parts as needed.

Bad points: Front wings replaced by previous owner - slightly darker grey than rest of car, Slightly sticky gear change from 5th to 4th (However the car drives perfectly), alloys have curb damage, Small dent in driver door (see photo).

PAYPAL AVAILABLE, BUT WOULD PREFER CASH ON COLLECTION.

THIS ITEM IS FOR SALE ON A BUYER COLLECTS BASIS.

Please e-mail if you have any queries at all.

This is alot of car for little money, so HAPPY BIDDING!!!

and afew more pics

[mad1969]

the front wings ante a big job got a great mate that will sort them out wheels might need a refurb ill sort them then afew little mods under the bone to tidy it up

so wat you think

[Fawbs]

the front wings ante a big job got a great mate that will sort them out wheels might need a refurb ill sort them then afew little mods under the bone to tidy it up

so wat you think

Sounds like quite a good car but isnt a bit risky with gearbox trouble, it may just be nothing you could put some top notch oil in there and it maybe fine you want to take the chance? stage 2 turbo very impressive. How much is it and how much u looking to spend?

[Calisto]

Looks like a sound enough car, if you think you can sort the problems out then go for it.

Will you be test driving it first? What about getting it inspected etc??

[Fawbs]

http://www.gt4oc.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=92637 check that one out only £1200 but has gearbox issues too

[ronnaus]

Hi m8 just too let you know that if this is a uk car at that age look for rust (hard) inner sills lift carpet if you can. They are bad places for them aswell as arches and round sun roof if it has one. The gearbox is a commen problem with the st185 so be ready to change it. Good maybe up to 120k, pig of a job to do and not cheap if you are paying a garage to do for you. If you have to change then get one from a st205 much better , stronger and is a straight swap also use at least an exedy organic clutch. Check for oil leaks down the back of the head and block/gearbox as the rocker gasket leaks at the rear corner by the dizzy. Then there is the old power steering problems that they all love to have and thats a fact and also another pig of a job, if the pump goes DO NOT use a second hand one take it from me i have done it TWICE and now need another one.Toyota pump is only good for about 70k so all the broken cars will have the same bad pump. You will be lucky to get one at that mileage not to need a rack too which is best changed with engine out. Can be done with it in but you need to stip out parts of the gear/transfer box. The bulkhead where the rack mounts to on the left hand side is also prone to cracking and is definatly a engine out job, this is because they press all the steel parts which make up the whole bulkhead and the stress in the metal is much worse in this area .Then there is the rear diff mount problem if it clonks on gear change or de-acceleration also floor vibration from the rear then its diff mounts not a bad job but can be dear if you use mr t oem parts £300+ iirc. General things are as all cars brakes ,wheel bearings ,link rods (arb) etc. Make sure you check the ecu for error codes there are how to's on this at all gt4 web/owners sites gt4oc gt4ec celica club ect, its very easy to do just a paper clip can do it but you need someone in the car to count the number of flashes from the ecu light on the dash. Head gasket on these cars are crap too but the one you are looking at has had one done so big plus point.

Hope that has scared the pants off you because in the real world these cars are high maintence and are not cheap to run 24 mpg at best. If you get one that is fine then all well and good happy motoring but it will indeed reach into your wallet and pull your pants down. So be very cautious when buying and look hard these cars are not selling well at the moment so a bargin can be had dont rush in at the first one you see. Look on the forums of said clubs you will find one or at least some very useful advice.

Sorry to be so blunt but i am talking from experiance and thought you should know because i have owned three of them .

[mad1969]

Hi m8 just too let you know that if this is a uk car at that age look for rust (hard) inner sills lift carpet if you can. They are bad places for them aswell as arches and round sun roof if it has one. The gearbox is a commen problem with the st185 so be ready to change it. Good maybe up to 120k, pig of a job to do and not cheap if you are paying a garage to do for you. If you have to change then get one from a st205 much better , stronger and is a straight swap also use at least an exedy organic clutch. Check for oil leaks down the back of the head and block/gearbox as the rocker gasket leaks at the rear corner by the dizzy. Then there is the old power steering problems that they all love to have and thats a fact and also another pig of a job, if the pump goes DO NOT use a second hand one take it from me i have done it TWICE and now need another one.Toyota pump is only good for about 70k so all the broken cars will have the same bad pump. You will be lucky to get one at that mileage not to need a rack too which is best changed with engine out. Can be done with it in but you need to stip out parts of the gear/transfer box. The bulkhead where the rack mounts to on the left hand side is also prone to cracking and is definatly a engine out job, this is because they press all the steel parts which make up the whole bulkhead and the stress in the metal is much worse in this area .Then there is the rear diff mount problem if it clonks on gear change or de-acceleration also floor vibration from the rear then its diff mounts not a bad job but can be dear if you use mr t oem parts £300+ iirc. General things are as all cars brakes ,wheel bearings ,link rods (arb) etc. Make sure you check the ecu for error codes there are how to's on this at all gt4 web/owners sites gt4oc gt4ec celica club ect, its very easy to do just a paper clip can do it but you need someone in the car to count the number of flashes from the ecu light on the dash. Head gasket on these cars are crap too but the one you are looking at has had one done so big plus point.

Hope that has scared the pants off you because in the real world these cars are high maintence and are not cheap to run 24 mpg at best. If you get one that is fine then all well and good happy motoring but it will indeed reach into your wallet and pull your pants down. So be very cautious when buying and look hard these cars are not selling well at the moment so a bargin can be had dont rush in at the first one you see. Look on the forums of said clubs you will find one or at least some very useful advice.

Sorry to be so blunt but i am talking from experiance and thought you should know because i have owned three of them .

woooo thank for al that advice ive got a good bunch of mates behind me afew that no there way around the gt-4 im a mechanic as well een if its only building go-karts top flight (kf.1) so ive always got m hands dirty i will defo look at the things youve listed and keep you all informed out the outcome of the sale

thanks again

[ronnaus]

I forgot to say that i also saw that car you are looking at on eBay with much interest as its all the same as my one i have now. Although mine is the import model same colour and widebody smart looking . The one thing is that this is a bit old and for the money you could find a later one somewhere. Although it does have leather trim and some goodies so that may make up for the age in the eyes of some people.

Just a thought ;)

The other thing i thought of is the gearbox try a new slave cylinder first easy job only about £40 (ADL blueprint) new fluid may help.

[mad1969]

thanks for alll the sound advice mate ive taken it all on board but like i said ive got some good mates behind me and after eading your reply im defo not going there with my eyes closed lolololo

its 1 of the main reasions i join the sit for info/help and advice

[ronnaus]

Its ok m8 always good to share the knowledge of owning a four especially the gen 5 st185. Sign up to all the clubs forums and jion the one u like the best it will help you out big time lots of people to share info and parts are easy to find.

Hope it goes well for you. Dont pay too much and enjoy.

Good luck.

Here is a pic of my one for you to drool over till you get you own. its a 93 import (jdm) all stock apart for hks air filter.

soon to have new wheels and brakes.

[Fawbs]

Its ok m8 always good to share the knowledge of owning a four especially the gen 5 st185. Sign up to all the clubs forums and jion the one u like the best it will help you out big time lots of people to share info and parts are easy to find.

Hope it goes well for you. Dont pay too much and enjoy.

Good luck.

Here is a pic of my one for you to drool over till you get you own. its a 93 import (jdm) all stock apart for hks air filter.

soon to have new wheels and brakes.

I like the garden, great size. The forums i use is this one, 6gc.net which is the same as this but only about celicas and gt4oc.net which is probably where you will find more of the hardcore celica people and more info but there is a bit of nattering goes on in there but from what ronnaus has told you it seems pretty top notch info on the 185. Personally i prefer this site as its quite easy going, user friendly and you get different opinions from different car users

useful sites

http://www.gt4dc.co.uk/

http://www.celica-club.co.uk/

http://www.gtfours.co.uk/ great site got loads of how to guides, pictures, great way to boost your knowledge

http://www.celicatech.com/index.php

http://www.toyotarepairs.net/index.html

http://www.celica-gt4.co.uk/

http://www.davewilkinsgtr.co.uk if you want to go to a meet in derby dates are up there

[GTForbes]

Now that has to be the most extensive list of 185 issues I've ever seen posted anywhere LOL. I only have one quam and that's the mpg, I averaged around 32 and once hit 40 mpg from a tank full! I maintaned that car to the highest standard I could afford and got an e-manage piggy back fitted to aid this.

As for the four your going to see ask why they fitted such a thick gasket, the normal replacement for a paper gasket is only 1.2/4mm, the only reason I can think off is so they could run more boost which leads onto low down rpm drivability issues and if it has run crazy boost without some form of engine management could mean a motor replacement could be required soon

[ronnaus]

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I like the garden, great size.

Oh you like the garden do what about some more shots then........???????????????

WHAT ABOUT THE CAR THOUGH :D

[ronnaus]

Now that has to be the most extensive list of 185 issues I've ever seen posted anywhere LOL. I only have one quam and that's the mpg, I averaged around 32 and once hit 40 mpg from a tank full! I maintaned that car to the highest standard I could afford and got an e-manage piggy back fitted to aid this.

You must of had one of the most economical gt4s ever and or a very lite foot. on a run they are much better i went from essex to wiltshire and back on about 55-60 pounds of super unleaded cant remember miles but its about 400 ish give or take.

GT forbes have seen you around before is it on the celica club or the oc ??

[Fawbs]

Quote

I like the garden, great size.

Oh you like the garden do what about some more shots then........???????????????

WHAT ABOUT THE CAR THOUGH :D

You rich git, double garage aswell, makes me sick haha. Of course the car is quality goes without saying, not too keen on the wheels though.

[ronnaus]

You rich git, double garage aswell, makes me sick haha. Of course the car is quality goes without saying, not too keen on the wheels though.

As i said the wheels and tyres and brakes all round are on the list of to do next.

Thats not my house and i am not rich its was just that you assumed that it was mine ha ha

Only letting it play out a bit mate all in good fun, I was working there fitting the rich !Removed! accountants new 40k bespoke hardwood kitchen. (lucky Ba#@ard).

Nice place to take pics though

[Fawbs]

As i said the wheels and tyres and brakes all round are on the list of to do next.

Thats not my house and i am not rich its was just that you assumed that it was mine ha ha

Only letting it play out a bit mate all in good fun, I was working there fitting the rich !Removed! accountants new 40k bespoke hardwood kitchen. (lucky Ba#@ard).

Nice place to take pics though

Yeh right i bet you were casing the joint for your get away after you loot his safe. what wheels you gonna get?

Yeh nice place needs a few tyre marks on the lawn though

[ronnaus]

As i said the wheels and tyres and brakes all round are on the list of to do next.

Thats not my house and i am not rich its was just that you assumed that it was mine ha ha

Only letting it play out a bit mate all in good fun, I was working there fitting the rich !Removed! accountants new 40k bespoke hardwood kitchen. (lucky Ba#@ard).

Nice place to take pics though

Yeh right i bet you were casing the joint for your get away after you loot his safe. what wheels you gonna get?

Yeh nice place needs a few tyre marks on the lawn though

Not likely i only ever went upstairs once to use the toilet.Remember i said he was !Removed! well thats the reason not to go upstairs thank you.

The wheels i am going to get are only audi rs6 replicas but i have tried them on the car and they look sweet. :D

[GTForbes]

they should look good, it was probably on the OC, unless you frequent the EC as my membership ran out for the OC and i refuse to fork out untill i get another four lol

[Fawbs]

they should look good, it was probably on the OC, unless you frequent the EC as my membership ran out for the OC and i refuse to fork out untill i get another four lol

To be honest apart from arranging meets, this site is better i think.

[mad1969]

well went to loook at the car today and yea you was all right i got it lololo she drives sweeet hols the road very well (not driven a 4x4 for afew years )

i have found out that the eater does'nt get tey hot but the engine temp seems pk any iders ?? the owner says its a celica fault ???

was thinking engine flush check stat and all pipes for leeks ????

4 gear his abit of a !Removed! ok going up the box just coming down but owner told me if you bummy its ok which it is most of the time ???

was told good be the cables to the gear leaver might need adjusting or new ones ??

thats th main things out the way other very little bits but its a 16 year old car and for wat i paid for it im more than happy

the engine runns like a drem holds booostvery good and pulls though all the gears (only running 8psi)

ive already got plans on afew little changer to the car clear front and side reapters carlos sinze bonnet bumper if i can find them ??? front mount if i find the the latter loololoo

Battery to boot his a defo need bigger filter fuel cut defender later on and fuel pres reg think that will do for now

[sri sii]

got to admit that it is quick mick but couldent shake me off ya bumper lol

[mad1969]

yea yea my trusty rusty sat on m boot but you no why ???

[mad1969]

any one got any iders about the problem with 4 gear pls and the heater ???

[Fawbs]

any one got any iders about the problem with 4 gear pls and the heater ???

I would try some top gearbox oil first i recommend millers trx75w90 i ordered some but they didnt have any and they sent me some high spec motor racing oil crx75w90 no extra cost, top stuff. Can feel a difference esp when cold, bit easier to change.