T180 Auris Gear Change Light

[boozehound]

I was driving my t180 auris last night and observed something weird, but not for the first time. Usuall when i get to 45mph it tells me to shift up, so i shift up to 5th gear, but last night the car was telling me to shift down from 5th to 4th when i was doing 50mph, and when i got to 30 it told me to shift to third, obv this will increase the engine revs, the engine was warm, the temp gauge was at middle. I dont know if this is right but is this the cars way of warming up the exhaust to burn the particulare filter clear? or is the car just doing sumthing else? Parts king what do u think? anyone else had a similar experience? I only use V power diesel in my auris and have done since day one

[Djw John]

I can get the gearshift up light to go off by putting more load on the engine. eg it usually comes on about 30ish in 3rd iirc and if you then floor it it goes off till a higher range. Basically its telling you what gear to be for the best economy by calculating road speed vs load as far as I can work out.

[OldSkoO1]

Did you skip a gear?

I get this all the time. If i stick my foot down from 30 to 50 and once i reach 50 i skip 4th and go straight to 5th. This confuses the shift lights but it normally sorts itself out after a few seconds.

[boozehound]

oh god no i never skip gears, its hurrendously bad for the selector and the gear box

[Auris 1.6 vvt-i]

I have observed the same phenomenon... My Auris' shift indicator tells me to shift up when it gets to 2000 rpm, even when I'm climbing a hill and the engine is loaded more than when running straight. Once, when I was climbing a not that steep hill, doing about 130 km/h and being in 5th gear, the engine was reving above 3100 rpm but the shift indicator was telling me to shift down (which I didn't as the car was running like a champ, "chewing" the incline without any sign of hesitation)... Weird, indeed! I haven't experienced this ever since.

[boozehound]

i must note that cars with a particulate filter, when it becomes clogged a light comes on the dashboard for it, prompting you to either on on the motorway or to do some full throttle starts to clear it out, but this is not the case with the auris, i believe that my experiences are basically the car telling me to shift down, therefore the exhaust will be hotter due to the higher revs which will kick the dpf system into gear

[mbrennan29]

oh god no i never skip gears, its hurrendously bad for the selector and the gear box

No it's not!

I'm an advanced police driver and missing gears that arnt necessary due to the engine sppeds etc is normal practice when driving to the system of car control. It's not bad for the car in anyway shape or form.

[boozehound]

well a toyota engineer gave me my information so we shall have to agree to disagree on tht one

[mbrennan29]

well a toyota engineer gave me my information so we shall have to agree to disagree on tht one

Not a problem, everyone is entitled to their opinion, however i have driven hundreds of thousands of miles in all manner of vehicles and always skip gears (block shift) when appropriate, i have never heard of any of the vehicles having gear box troubles.

[quaylad]

I'm with the policeman on this on and have always skipped gears where possible on my cars.

For example my Golf I bought new in 1987 and has covered a mega mileage, the clutch, gearbox and engine have never been touched.

[Djw John]

It not bad for it at all. FACT!

And dont believe everything an engineer tells you!

[OldSkoO1]

I was always taught it was fine as long as the engine speeds matched the gear choice.

[mbrennan29]

It not bad for it at all. FACT!

And dont believe everything an engineer tells you!

PRECISELY what i was thinking but hey some people do take their words as gospel, after all they know EVERYTHING!!

[T Sport 1978]

It not bad for it at all. FACT!

And dont believe everything an engineer tells you!

PRECISELY what i was thinking but hey some people do take their words as gospel, after all they know EVERYTHING!!

If anything it is better for W&T becasue you ultimately reduces the number of changes made to the gear box.

I block change all the time, up or down the gears.

When i change down i try to rev match as well and use heel-toe when cornering.

[mbrennan29]

It not bad for it at all. FACT!

And dont believe everything an engineer tells you!

PRECISELY what i was thinking but hey some people do take their words as gospel, after all they know EVERYTHING!!

If anything it is better for W&T becasue you ultimately reduces the number of changes made to the gear box.

I block change all the time, up or down the gears.

When i change down i try to rev match as well and use heel-toe when cornering.

Heel and Toe when cornering? Everything (braking, gear changes etc) should be done before you start cornering, the only thing you should be doing in the corner is using acceleration (we call it acceleration sense) to maintain the speed, this is due to the vehicle naturally slowing when it changes course. The aim is to keep the car as balanced as possible to give the best possible grip and control.

[T Sport 1978]

It not bad for it at all. FACT!

And dont believe everything an engineer tells you!

PRECISELY what i was thinking but hey some people do take their words as gospel, after all they know EVERYTHING!!

If anything it is better for W&T becasue you ultimately reduces the number of changes made to the gear box.

I block change all the time, up or down the gears.

When i change down i try to rev match as well and use heel-toe when cornering.

Heel and Toe when cornering? Everything (braking, gear changes etc) should be done before you start cornering, the only thing you should be doing in the corner is using acceleration (we call it acceleration sense) to maintain the speed, this is due to the vehicle naturally slowing when it changes course. The aim is to keep the car as balanced as possible to give the best possible grip and control.

Sorry sir.

I meant heel-toe FOR cornering. PLEASE DONT NICK ME.

[Dennet]

Sorry sir.

I meant heel-toe FOR cornering. PLEASE DONT NICK ME.

Heel-toe in a slow revving diesel?? If you truly attack a corner with a high-revving NA engine with a light flywheel you would be doing the right thing, but a diesel engine like the 2.2 D-cat never responds fast enough to heel-toe effectively.

[T Sport 1978]

Sorry sir.

I meant heel-toe FOR cornering. PLEASE DONT NICK ME.

Heel-toe in a slow revving diesel?? If you truly attack a corner with a high-revving NA engine with a light flywheel you would be doing the right thing, but a diesel engine like the 2.2 D-cat never responds fast enough to heel-toe effectively.

Well it wasn't as fun as when i use to do it in my old T Sport, but it works and i do it, albeit only when i am driving spiritedly.

[boozehound]

ive never heard of heel to toe in a diesel

hey isnt it great when you fill up a full tank in the auris, and when u drive u can hear the diesel swishing about in the tank? its such a good satisfying feeling, it sounds well louder in my mums new sr180 rav4 lolo