Auto Switching Of Re-circulation

[Aurissimo]

Hello guys I want to ask you if you guys have the same issue.

In the hot summer days when the cabin temperature is higher than the outside temperature, because of sun-loading etc...

The Recirculation button will ALWAYS turn itself on when starting the car. I never have recirculation on ... NEVER.

It is very annoying, because it basically stops fresh air coming in and keeps the Heat in the cabin effectively TRAPPED inside!!!

also leads to misting up problems in the cabin etc... so every time I now have to get in the habit of

Turning engine on

Check for recirculation switch and switch off if necessary,

Drive off...

I could understand it, if the recirculation switch ANDthe A/C switched on at the same time to try and cool the cabin down quickly without bringing into the cabin hot air, but the logic of just the recirculation switch makes no sense to me...

Any of you got the same problem?

[Jarod]

Yeah i've got the same problem and i hate it now when there is warm outside i always must press that button. I use a/c very little so it's veeery anoying.

Toyota did it in some stupid way

[Juler]

I've noticed this recently too, now we've had some warm weather in the UK. As I'm often sitting in traffic through London I'm switching between outside and re-circulation fairly frequently as I much prefer 'fresh' air, but not when behind some dirty old diesel (sorry SR180 owners!), so not finding it a massive problem. It would be nice though if there was a method to make the car start in the same configuration as when it was turned off.

[Djw John]

Yeah at first I thought it was cos I had it on auto (with the AC off) but it still does it. Just another niggle!

[Djw John]

Just found this post whilst looking for something else. There is hope!!

Today is my steerringrack re-newed hopefully the Knock is gone now .

they olso changed the Recirculation button from automatic to manual through the a little handcomputer from the dealer .

every time i started the AURIS with te temperature on LOW it goes on recirculation automaticly but now NOMORE :P

[Aurissimo]

Cheers for that snippet of info... I am in the process of making my 50k service interval list of "additional items" I need looking at , before the warranty ( 60k) expires...

need to get them all done now specially the annoying rattles, fuel tank sloshing, recirculation button, and other ... hummm

at least the dealers are pretty good compared to my experience of other car dealers....

(Mental note, never buy a japanese car again - made outside of Japan...)

[mountain_mania]

Yes it is a mistake of Toyota. It occurs, because you set for instance 22celsius degree int the car. Than the comp realizes, that this temperature cannot be reached with fresh air since the outer temp is higher than 22. So it switches on the recirculation.

You can face with the same "problem" when you decrease the temperature during your way lower than the outer. It acts as a reminder, to switch on the A/C.

Our cars start with two button

[mountain_mania]

(Mental note, never buy a japanese car again - made outside of Japan...)

It was planned in Japan...

[reece]

I never have recirculation on ... NEVER.

Recirculation is great when behind any bus or HGV which throws out black smelly filthy sooty fumes in front of my car, or when a diesel user puts their foot to the floor and leaves a trail of black smoke, quick flick of the switch and the inside of my car stays fresh and diesel free

[Aurissimo]

(Mental note, never buy a japanese car again - made outside of Japan...)

It was planned in Japan...

planned in japan, badly executed in Europe...

[Aurissimo]

I never have recirculation on ... NEVER.

Recirculation is great when behind any bus or HGV which throws out black smelly filthy sooty fumes in front of my car, or when a diesel user puts their foot to the floor and leaves a trail of black smoke, quick flick of the switch and the inside of my car stays fresh and diesel free

or flying past a freshly manured field...

[mountain_mania]

(Mental note, never buy a japanese car again - made outside of Japan...)

It was planned in Japan...

planned in japan, badly executed in Europe...

pfff come on!

It is obvius, that this mistake was made by the engineers planed the heating system. They made a "mistake" in Japan, not in Turkey or in the UK.

BTW some years ago, the Turkish factory won the competition of the Toyota factories (internal audit). :P

[Aurissimo]

(Mental note, never buy a japanese car again - made outside of Japan...)

It was planned in Japan...

planned in japan, badly executed in Europe...

pfff come on!

It is obvius, that this mistake was made by the engineers planed the heating system. They made a "mistake" in Japan, not in Turkey or in the UK.

BTW some years ago, the Turkish factory won the competition of the Toyota factories (internal audit). :P

The engineers could be based in europe also, I think you will find that Toyota has a technical centre in europe (Brussells I think, plus I think the plant in Uk might have an ave small support office, i don't know for sure, and ther eis something else in germany, cologne . And I am sure that the european operations would have to validate the design is fit for use in Europe, applying their European know-how. before they alow it to be launched... so they missed it. Nissan and Honda have strong technical centre support in UK and Germany...I think toyota will have too.

Japanese engineers might or might not know what conditions are unique to Europe, In japan for example, most drivers drive between 90-100% of their time with aircon...and recirc applied, so they would of course... expect recir to be turned on automatically... it is down to us europeans to highlight this as an "incorrect requirement" for us...

I stand by my judgement badly executed by Europeans, Arigato gozaimasu.

Signed...

Aurissimo-san :D

[Speed_Chaser]

Today when I got my car back from the service I noticed that the re-circulation goes automatically on when I start the engine (the car was standing in hot sun). If I'm not totally wrong this didn't happen ever before. Only when I had AUTO mode on, but now I was using only A/C mode (which I usually do). Is this normal or should it be getting fresh air if I don't choose it to use recirculation?

As I understand you guys were talking about recirculation going automatically on when the A/C is off...

Best regards, Alex

[Jukkeli]

What problem?

Jap engineer has thought, that if you recirculate same air in limited room it cools faster. REC mode goes away in couple of minutes, but you can always push it away, I've used manual heaters many years and one big button shouldn't be impossible to push. There is 1 big problem with REC mode, LHD models suck air from passenger's footwell and if your passenger hasn't changed her/his socks very often, it's uncomfortable

;)

If you have climate control in your car, don't touch it. It's automatic and let it decide. You've paid for that.

Jukka

[Jarod]

I guess that REC is works the same with the a/c on or of

When the a/c is off there is a problem.

What problem?

Jap engineer has thought, that if you recirculate same air in limited room it cools faster. REC mode goes away in couple of minutes, but you can always push it away, I've used manual heaters many years and one big button shouldn't be impossible to push.

If you have climate control in your car, don't touch it. It's automatic and let it decide. You've paid for that.

Its possible to push one button but i must do it everytime i start the engine - its a little annoying

If it would decide automatically (rec on, a/c off) i could fry in the car ehh :P

[Speed_Chaser]

What problem?

Jap engineer has thought, that if you recirculate same air in limited room it cools faster. REC mode goes away in couple of minutes, but you can always push it away

Jukka

The problem is that if I have only A/C button pushed (the air condition is not working in Auto mode) I'd like to decide myself what I want my air condition to do.

In Auto mode I understand that it can come on when needed, but not when in manual mode...

Best regards, Alex

[Aurissimo]

What problem?

Jap engineer has thought, that if you recirculate same air in limited room it cools faster. REC mode goes away in couple of minutes, but you can always push it away, I've used manual heaters many years and one big button shouldn't be impossible to push. There is 1 big problem with REC mode, LHD models suck air from passenger's footwell and if your passenger hasn't changed her/his socks very often, it's uncomfortable

;)

If you have climate control in your car, don't touch it. It's automatic and let it decide. You've paid for that.

Jukka

So let me see... The cabin is at high temperature... and then you add a warm body or more into the cabin... you then close the the room, recirculate the hot air and this will cool faster... REALLY???

this would be true if at the same time turn on the recirculation AND the A/C turned on and low temperature, but they DONT...

My car is always on Auto...and i let it decide, except when it makes stupid decisions and then i have to intervene and press buttons off...

of course i can press the button but that is not the point...

[Jukkeli]

What problem?

Jap engineer has thought, that if you recirculate same air in limited room it cools faster. REC mode goes away in couple of minutes, but you can always push it away, I've used manual heaters many years and one big button shouldn't be impossible to push. There is 1 big problem with REC mode, LHD models suck air from passenger's footwell and if your passenger hasn't changed her/his socks very often, it's uncomfortable

;)

If you have climate control in your car, don't touch it. It's automatic and let it decide. You've paid for that.

Jukka

So let me see... The cabin is at high temperature... and then you add a warm body or more into the cabin... you then close the the room, recirculate the hot air and this will cool faster... REALLY???

this would be true if at the same time turn on the recirculation AND the A/C turned on and low temperature, but they DONT...

My car is always on Auto...and i let it decide, except when it makes stupid decisions and then i have to intervene and press buttons off...

of course i can press the button but that is not the point...

Hi, I live in Finland and today it was +27, in winter it could be -27 or even colder. In my experiencies Auris has kept those given temperatures very well, IRL I drive my car wearing only T-shirt around the year and +20 C is comfortable. My annual count in kms is over 70 000 so I'm not talking any bull*****...

[Aurissimo]

What problem?

Jap engineer has thought, that if you recirculate same air in limited room it cools faster. REC mode goes away in couple of minutes, but you can always push it away, I've used manual heaters many years and one big button shouldn't be impossible to push. There is 1 big problem with REC mode, LHD models suck air from passenger's footwell and if your passenger hasn't changed her/his socks very often, it's uncomfortable

;)

If you have climate control in your car, don't touch it. It's automatic and let it decide. You've paid for that.

Jukka

So let me see... The cabin is at high temperature... and then you add a warm body or more into the cabin... you then close the the room, recirculate the hot air and this will cool faster... REALLY???

this would be true if at the same time turn on the recirculation AND the A/C turned on and low temperature, but they DONT...

My car is always on Auto...and i let it decide, except when it makes stupid decisions and then i have to intervene and press buttons off...

of course i can press the button but that is not the point...

Hi, I live in Finland and today it was +27, in winter it could be -27 or even colder. In my experiencies Auris has kept those given temperatures very well, IRL I drive my car wearing only T-shirt around the year and +20 C is comfortable. My annual count in kms is over 70 000 so I'm not talking any bull*****...

I live in bedford and today was hot... and sometimes it also gets very cold. I also don't take any, and i am sure you did not understand the point of my question in this forum...

[G6-R]

The dealer can reset this iseu with a little handcomputer , ihad let it done when i had my auris and no problem afther words

[reece]

I see where Jukkeli is coming from, set your temperature at whatever you want, turn to Auto and let the car do what it does best, which is reaching that temperature either with fresh or re-circulated air. At the end of the day you will get your desired temp

[Aurissimo]

I see where Jukkeli is coming from, set your temperature at whatever you want, turn to Auto and let the car do what it does best, which is reaching that temperature either with fresh or re-circulated air. At the end of the day you will get your desired temp

you won't , not always...there are ocassions where you will end up misting up inside the car , depending on the humidity of the air...

In colder climates the amount of moisture in the air might be lower, so Jukkeli might not have an issue , but that does not mean it is not an incorrect mode of operation for some.

The car is going in on Monday for the servicing... so I am asking them to do all these jobs... hopefully they will...

[Speed_Chaser]

The car is going in on Monday for the servicing... so I am asking them to do all these jobs... hopefully they will...

...They sure will, if you'll pay them! It is not a free job as I was told, they're quoting 37€/one modification using their little handcomputer If you also want for example to change the default places where the air con is blowing in AUTO mode,

you'll have to pay 37 more, total 74€

Hopefully it's free or the prices are lower there where you're going for the sercice

Best regards, Alex