Which Headlight Bulbs ?

[CharlieFarlie]

The Headlights on My T180 give off as much usable light as two candles... I think its time to change the bulbs for something that will illuminate the road.. I read through a thread on Here that started ok but was unfathomable by page 2..

Please I would appreciate if it could be kept simple as electrics are My major weak point ...

Is it just a simple bulb swap or is it more complicated.. Links to the kit I need would be a huge bonus !!

I thank You

Wee Charlie.

[Joylove]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

[CharlieFarlie]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

Thanks. What type or model or part numbers Mate ?

Wee Charlie.

[Big Kev]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

I paid £27.00 / pair last week (2 pairs of H7) for nephew's Corolla = £54.00....then Amazon doing them this week for £14.00 / pair.....Charlie....I will look out Local Hero's guide to bulbs and mail it through, but search Amazon first just in case.

One of them is HB3....CANNAE MIND T'OTHER.

Big Kev

[Davrav]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

I paid £27.00 / pair last week (2 pairs of H7) for nephew's Corolla = £54.00....then Amazon doing them this week for £14.00 / pair.....Charlie....I will look out Local Hero's guide to bulbs and mail it through, but search Amazon first just in case.

One of them is HB3....CANNAE MIND T'OTHER.

Big Kev

Be a good chap and mail it my way too.......................I've lost my copy :(

[Big Kev]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

I paid £27.00 / pair last week (2 pairs of H7) for nephew's Corolla = £54.00....then Amazon doing them this week for £14.00 / pair.....Charlie....I will look out Local Hero's guide to bulbs and mail it through, but search Amazon first just in case.

One of them is HB3....CANNAE MIND T'OTHER.

Big Kev

Be a good chap and mail it my way too.......................I've lost my copy :(

...what a LINKER....

[Big Kev]

Oh Gubberit....have lost my copy too somewhere in the depths of my masheen. We will need to draw lots for who asks Local Hero to post for the 83rd time....he will slag us all t'death.

Careless Kev

[Davrav]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

I paid £27.00 / pair last week (2 pairs of H7) for nephew's Corolla = £54.00....then Amazon doing them this week for £14.00 / pair.....Charlie....I will look out Local Hero's guide to bulbs and mail it through, but search Amazon first just in case.

One of them is HB3....CANNAE MIND T'OTHER.

Big Kev

Be a good chap and mail it my way too.......................I've lost my copy :(

...what a LINKER....

Well..................

LINK

Couldn't let that pass

[CharlieFarlie]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

I paid £27.00 / pair last week (2 pairs of H7) for nephew's Corolla = £54.00....then Amazon doing them this week for £14.00 / pair.....Charlie....I will look out Local Hero's guide to bulbs and mail it through, but search Amazon first just in case.

One of them is HB3....CANNAE MIND T'OTHER.

Big Kev

From that thread.........Anyway on to bulbs..for main beams you want HB3s... for dipped beams you want H11s (not H1s)..

So I need a pair of Ozram HB3s And a pair of H11s ????

Wee Charlie.

[blue monster]

Charlie mate, I swapped mine for some Ring xenon max, very similar to the night breakers mentioned above. Easy to fit & plenty of places appear to have them on offer. You can pick up a pair for around £20

HTH

Martin

[Davrav]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

I paid £27.00 / pair last week (2 pairs of H7) for nephew's Corolla = £54.00....then Amazon doing them this week for £14.00 / pair.....Charlie....I will look out Local Hero's guide to bulbs and mail it through, but search Amazon first just in case.

One of them is HB3....CANNAE MIND T'OTHER.

Big Kev

From that thread.........Anyway on to bulbs..for main beams you want HB3s... for dipped beams you want H11s (not H1s)..

So I need a pair of Ozram HB3s And a pair of H11s ????

Wee Charlie.

That's the ticket Charlie

[Big Kev]

Osram Nightbreakers, about £25 a pair on eBay. Job jobbed.

I paid £27.00 / pair last week (2 pairs of H7) for nephew's Corolla = £54.00....then Amazon doing them this week for £14.00 / pair.....Charlie....I will look out Local Hero's guide to bulbs and mail it through, but search Amazon first just in case.

One of them is HB3....CANNAE MIND T'OTHER.

Big Kev

From that thread.........Anyway on to bulbs..for main beams you want HB3s... for dipped beams you want H11s (not H1s)..

So I need a pair of Ozram HB3s And a pair of H11s ????

Wee Charlie.

Them's the one wee man....

[CharlieFarlie]

Right so these are the ones ??

Kev I cant see them for £14

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-Nightbreaker-Upgrade-Headlight-Bulbs/dp/B001IHBEU4/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318965049&sr=8-1-spell

These ones come with the sidelight bulbs which I think are correct ??

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-Night-Breaker-Extreme-Sidelights/dp/B005M2E2SM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1ZJRH6JJJ2KH6&colid=2RLG7QGMQO6ZH

Do these things really improve by 90% ????

[CharlieFarlie]

Is the HB3 and H11 designation just for Ozram bulbs or does it apply to say Ring ? IE Ring HB3 ??

Thanks

Wee Charlie.

[Davrav]

Right so these are the ones ??

Kev I cant see them for £14

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-Nightbreaker-Upgrade-Headlight-Bulbs/dp/B001IHBEU4/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1318965049&sr=8-1-spell

These ones come with the sidelight bulbs which I think are correct ??

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-Night-Breaker-Extreme-Sidelights/dp/B005M2E2SM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I1ZJRH6JJJ2KH6&colid=2RLG7QGMQO6ZH

Do these things really improve by 90% ????

It's universal Charlie - denotes the fitting type

[CharlieFarlie]

Are these correct ?? This make gets a good review in the other thread

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ring-RW1005-100-Brighter-Xenon-Max-HB3-Alfa-Romeo-/230685800263?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35b5f1f747#ht_2463wt_1270

And these ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RING-XENON-MAX-H11-100-2X-HEADLIGHT-BULBS-XENON-AUDI-/330449651454?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf05586fe#ht_4988wt_1270

[Joylove]

55W is the legal limit mate.

For me I always pull the bulb and check what's printed on it to find the size. A couple of cars the handbook has been wrong.

[CharlieFarlie]

55W is the legal limit mate.

For me I always pull the bulb and check what's printed on it to find the size. A couple of cars the handbook has been wrong.

Mate in this link it says standard fitment is 60W ?? http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=122987&st=15

It would seem by looking at the data that 60W is still legal ???

Wee Charlie.

[CharlieFarlie]

Are the Ring ones just as good as the Ozram ones ? They claim 100% better light and Ozram claim 90% The Ring ones are 18 quid and Ozram 32 quid ???????????????

Wee Charlie..

[Davrav]

55W is the legal limit mate.

For me I always pull the bulb and check what's printed on it to find the size. A couple of cars the handbook has been wrong.

Mate in this link it says standard fitment is 60W ?? http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=122987&st=15

It would seem by looking at the data that 60W is still legal ???

Wee Charlie.

There's a legal minimum of 30W but AFIK no upper limit. The key issue is dazzle and that's down to alignment.

Obviously, if the bulbs go over manufacturers recommendations there's a danger of overloading the electrics.

60W main beam, 55W dipped is what it states in my '08 manual

[blue monster]

From various reviews that I have read mate I think that you are splitting hairs over which performs better. I have had my ring ones now for around 5 months with no issues and they are noticeable better than the OEM ones.

[CharlieFarlie]

From various reviews that I have read mate I think that you are splitting hairs over which performs better. I have had my ring ones now for around 5 months with no issues and they are noticeable better than the OEM ones.

Well with the Ring ones being ones being just over 17 quid it seems that is the way to go ??

Please check this link so I'm not mis understanding ?? Thanks.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ring-RW1005-100-Brighter-Xenon-Max-HB3-Alfa-Romeo-/230685800263?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35b5f1f747#ht_2463wt_1270

Wee Charlie.

[blue monster]

I just did the dipped beam mate (H11) as we don't do that much driving on full beam

[anchorman]

Charlie

Try just the dipped beam first. I personally found main beam OK and given that they illuminate along with dipped beam, you find that road signs dazzle you back to the point of being uncomfortable.

Ignore the 90% claims. With a good set you should see an improvement but I suspect they measure the brightness with some lab machine under certain conditions so don't expect twice as bright because it doesn't work like that.

The only way you will get that kind of improvement is with a HID kit and there is a question mark about the legality and there is some wiring to do.

[CharlieFarlie]

Charlie

Try just the dipped beam first. I personally found main beam OK and given that they illuminate along with dipped beam, you find that road signs dazzle you back to the point of being uncomfortable.

Ignore the 90% claims. With a good set you should see an improvement but I suspect they measure the brightness with some lab machine under certain conditions so don't expect twice as bright because it doesn't work like that.

The only way you will get that kind of improvement is with a HID kit and there is a question mark about the legality and there is some wiring to do.

Thanks and a good point made out by both You and Blue Monster. I will just fit the H11s for now and see how it goes.

Last question already answered in a way... Ozram or Ring ?? Any measurable difference cos there certainly is in price and unlike those roof bars that have given Me the reputation of being an Ebineezer I feel this is not an area to make silly economies ...

Thanks Guys I genuinely appreciate Your help !!

Wee Charlie.