Faulty Diesel Injectors

[badgrammer]

Hi

I have a Toyota Aygo 1.4 diesel that is 3 years and 10 months old. It has done about 70,000 miles. All four injectors now need replacing at a cost of over £1300. Is this a common fault? I understand that the diesel version can no longer be purchased, anyone know why?

Regards

Badgrammer

[daveyjp]

Diesel offered little over the petrol in terms of performance or mpg, very few bought one, no point continuing with it. If your car has full Toyota main dealer service history I'd ask them for a contribution.

[adilmon]

Hi

I have a Toyota Aygo 1.4 diesel that is 3 years and 10 months old. It has done about 70,000 miles. All four injectors now need replacing at a cost of over £1300. Is this a common fault? I understand that the diesel version can no longer be purchased, anyone know why?

Regards

Badgrammer

I can help you out. My diesel Aygo had an injector leaking fuel at nearly 45,000 miles and 1 week before the warranty ran out. I decided to take out the extended 2yr warranty. Since then, I'm on 60,000 and an injector seal failed, which was fixed under warranty.

If you're out of warranty I strongly recommend you take your car to a peugeot or citroen (PSA) garage to get it fixed. The engine is a 1.4hdi and is used in many peugeot & citroen models. You'll get a cheaper quote to fix it. £1,300 is ridiculous

Diesel version was £1000 more when new and a careful petrol owner could get mpg close to a careless diesel driver. They are also in the same tax band, so the diesel didn't sell well. Best mpg I've ever got from the diesel is a tiny bit over 90mpg, but it was boring doing it.

[ihpj]

Good advice going to PSA instead of Toyota for repair as the diesel engine is theirs. BUT (and this is my POV) I would go to Toyota and complain, seeking a goodwill payment towards the full cost of repair. Toyota are very sensitive about their reputation at this time and I would use it to your advantage.

Be creative and persistent - but I think your mileage will count against you. No harm in asking though!

[musicscotland]

Just wanted to find out if there was any follow up to this topic, or if anyone can contribute further?

I have a reported faulty 3rd injector on my Aygo diesel engine, the car is 06 and has done just under 40,000 miles (so 10,000 per year). The Toyota dealer is currently quoting £1,000 for repair which seems excessive. It was purchased Approved New in Dec 2007 so the 1 year warranty has expired.

Would appreciate any comments - or whether any concessions were given by the dealership in the previous case.

Thanks!

[Unklian]

Hi There.

8 currently for sale on eBay......

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4 for £500.00 or perhaps you can contact them and "do a deal" I don't know if they are new, used or reconditioned.

Ring your local diesel specialist Must be a couple of hours to fit all 4

£100.00 labour perhaps? Certainly not £800.00

Good luck.

Ian.

[igormus]

Hi

I have a Toyota Aygo 1.4 diesel that is 3 years and 10 months old. It has done about 70,000 miles. All four injectors now need replacing at a cost of over £1300. Is this a common fault? I understand that the diesel version can no longer be purchased, anyone know why?

Regards

Badgrammer

hi mate

the only injector atomizer (tip) is subject to be changed at greatly less cost.

check with others to have reasonable price. Cheers/Igor

[acetip]

Hi

I have a Toyota Aygo 1.4 diesel that is 3 years and 10 months old. It has done about 70,000 miles. All four injectors now need replacing at a cost of over £1300. Is this a common fault? I understand that the diesel version can no longer be purchased, anyone know why?

Regards

Badgrammer

why not take the car to diesel injection specialist there are plenty around and would give a quote.

[musicscotland]

acetip, igormus and Unklian - that's great, thanks a million for your advice.

The fault has been intermittent, loss of top end power after an hour's driving on a couple of occasions so far. After a day or two not driven, the engine warning light has reset itself and the engine is back to normal. Any chance this could just be dirt in the fuel tank?

The dealer has asked me to return the car as soon as the fault recurs, not easy as it has only happened on longer journeys. I will pursue them for a competitive quote if any injectors do need replacing - it seems wiser that all four should be replaced together?

[igormus]

acetip, igormus and Unklian - that's great, thanks a million for your advice.

The fault has been intermittent, loss of top end power after an hour's driving on a couple of occasions so far. After a day or two not driven, the engine warning light has reset itself and the engine is back to normal. Any chance this could just be dirt in the fuel tank?

The dealer has asked me to return the car as soon as the fault recurs, not easy as it has only happened on longer journeys. I will pursue them for a competitive quote if any injectors do need replacing - it seems wiser that all four should be replaced together?

hello again

the injector, if you re talking about it as whole -- consists of several parts: body; solenoid; internal loading spring; internal push rod; atomizer tip (needle and body are belong to); atomizer tip nut. the normal consumable is an atomizer. you oshould test all four injectors on the fuel stand by means of a reliable specialist -- this one has to show you injected diesel portion from each injector - to evaluate what is/are faulty. but obviously you will have to test all four at the same time (but not change cos you do not know their injection quality). Good luck /Igor

[musicscotland]

OK cheers Igor.

[funkykitten]

I was lucky enough to get this problem fixed under warranty - seems to be a common issue in the diesel??

[igormus]

I was lucky enough to get this problem fixed under warranty - seems to be a common issue in the diesel??

the itomizer tip suffers from both extreme pressure and high gas temperature + sulphur ----these three + carbon bring shortage of the tip life time. that is why this one is like spark park subject to regular maintenance. cheers/Igor

[KCK1]

Just been advised by garage that need new fuel injector at 62,000 miles cost £1068 + £290 for a fuel pipe. The car is only 4 and half years old, I think this is far too young for such a fault. Sounds as though i should challenge need to replace unit?

[musicscotland]

A year ago, when my 1.4l Diesel Aygo was aged 4.5 years, I had the fuel injector problem above. It seemed to clear and the car has run OK for the past year. It started playing up again (worse) this month. I know I should have had it properly repaired first time round, but the problem was intermittent and not fully traceable at the time.

The price from the Toyota dealer is £750 to replace the injector. I called the Peugeot and Citroen garages who said they couldn't repair this as the diagnostics were encoded to Toyota and that this had to be a Toyota dealer repair. So I can't get any alternative quotes for repair.

Toyota Customer Relations claim the car is too old (5 and a half years) for them to offer any repair discount or any goodwill gesture at all. The dealer is not offering to buy back the car - not surprising I suppose. It was purchased Approved New at 23k miles. The car has only done 44k miles - I've driven 5,000 per year myself.

The Aygo has had no other problems, had a dealer service every year, and I've actually really liked the car - but I feel hung out to dry by Toyota now. I know the diesels weren't popular but I'm feeling aggrieved here - should I be? Is that an acceptable repair bill after this length of time/mileage?